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| Revelations - some passages | |
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| Topic Started: May 27 2006, 05:32 AM (138 Views) | |
| Jimmy | May 27 2006, 05:32 AM Post #1 |
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I just thought that with the coming 6-6-06, For those nerve-fritters i'll supply some passages from the [Good news] bible, which I read daily. A vision of Christ:
The final judgement:
Be good or go to hell, kiddies! Amen. |
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| Nubochanozep | May 27 2006, 11:17 AM Post #2 |
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I find that the bible is much more stimulating when summarised greatly. Alas, here are some of my favourite quotes not from the bible, but from various people...
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| Jimmy | May 27 2006, 01:02 PM Post #3 |
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Uh...but...yeah. *throws holy water on Neb's head* Neb: Aaagh! It burnses! |
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| Nubochanozep | May 27 2006, 01:45 PM Post #4 |
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That holy water is the devil's work. That was a metaphor, not literal. |
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| Kraul | May 28 2006, 08:52 AM Post #5 |
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| Prince Rich | May 28 2006, 09:28 AM Post #6 |
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Ha the bible. Has been moved to the fiction section in my school. Courtesy me. |
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| Jimmy | May 29 2006, 07:02 AM Post #7 |
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As has the Da Vinci code. Fucking atheist.
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| Kraul | May 29 2006, 09:27 AM Post #8 |
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![]() Which of these books don't belong? Hint: It's the only one based on provable facts, while the other two are books filled with fantasy moral driven stories. Give up? If you chose the science book, you are correct! While the other may have different stories, they are essentially the same as they are both filled with made up fantasy stories that could never happen such as women living giant shoes, old invisible men watching with the ability to watch everything everywehre, boy climbing giant plants into lairs of giants, people with wings sitting on clouds, e.t.c.
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| Nubochanozep | May 29 2006, 12:01 PM Post #9 |
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I suppose I could then put all the literature about world history on the scrap heap that you've created for all the religious literature in the world, because they each share the same amounts of evidence. Each is based entirely upon literature that has been preserved for many thousands of years. Each also has a fair amount of archaelogical evidence behind them, and the literature that you so sorely hate backs up these findings in their contents. For instance the Gardens of Gethsemane and the stories relating to that place in Jerusalem have just as much credence as the idea that Romans built the Collesium. While we're at it I may as well educate you about science. Nothing in science is fact, it's all theory, Yes some of those theories are almost rock hard but nothing in science can be proven. Everything they teach you in science is the best theory that can be applied to the idea. The idea that oxygen is the fuel for fire on earth is in place because no other theory can make a better argument. By that very same token, the theory of the big bang, the structure of DNA, and the diagenesis of rocks are all theories that are the best ideas for their field. No other theory can make a better argument, hence we accept them as fact. Whilst we accept them as fact, there is no amount of evidence that could ever prove them to be 100% accurate. Shall I throw them on that very same scrap heap? |
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| Kraul | May 30 2006, 12:04 PM Post #10 |
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Nothing in science can be proven? Bullshit. There may be some ideas in science that can't be proven at this time, but most of it has been proven. Isn't biology a form of science? Since you say that everything in science is nothing more than theories and nothing in it is a fact, then I suppose that what we know about human reproduction is nothing but a theory. It's no fact that after a sperm has fused with the egg inside of the woman, it grows into an embryo then a fetus which will become a human being. No that's not a fact proven over the years of research put into analyzing the reproduction cycles of humans, it's just a theory. And it's on a level playing ground with fantasy stories of a man curing someone just by touching them. I suppose it's also not a fact that if you mix something like sodium bicarbonate with vinegar you'll get a noticeable reaction, it's nothing more than a theory. I guess the whole process of photosynthesis is nothing more than a theory too, despite all of the research and evidence proving otherwise. You say everything in science is theory, not fact. I say that's untrue. Some ideas in science have not been proven to be fact at this time for we are still learning, but to disregard all of science as nothing more than unprovable theories is foolish. I dare say that the grand majority of science is fact that has been proven through the ages. Can you say this about religious texts like the Bible? No you can't. Can you prove that an all powerful being created woman by using a rib? No you can't. Can you prove that a supposed son of a god cured people simply by touching them? No you can't. That is the book of unprovable theories. And when you take into account that the religious texts are filled with old age thinking (when the Earth was thought to be flat - which science has proven to be wrong) and have so many different versions of eachother, it's hard to think that anyone who actually examines what they believe in without restraint will find themselves thinking that the texts are the truth. |
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| Nubochanozep | May 30 2006, 12:32 PM Post #11 |
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Yes, that is correct. We may "prove" it to ourselves, but there's no ideas within science that we can say are 100% real.
That's a very shallow and poor example, but essentially it still rings true to my post. There's no 100% proof that the sperm fertislises the egg in a way that causes the direct growth of a baby. For all we know, it could simply provide an enzyme that merely catalyses a reaction that could always occur in an egg. That's an unlikely theory, and hence it isn't accepted as science.
Yes, that's a fact. But the theory behind the reaction is not a provable fact. Scientists developed a hypothesis that these structures somehow intereact with each other, to form the end product (a salt plus water). Scientists then developed the idea that there were electron shells, and that's how these atoms are bonded to each other. From there, we can investigate how they interact by peforming experiments like the one you just described. From watching and performing these experiments we can develop more hypothesis regarding how many electrons there are per shell, how the electronegativity affects reactions and so forth. However there is no die hard proof to say that an electron exists in shells, or that an atom even exists. We merely make observations and then develop theories.
Lol, do you know how complex photosynthesis is? I'm in the process of changing to a pharmacology major and even I have trouble believing what they tell me is true. I could go and get my biology book and attempt to explain it, but it's quite farfetched. What is important is that it's our best theory and it currently fits everything we see in photosynthesis, thus we accept it as fact.
If you can believe the theories of mitosis and meiosis, it's quite plausible that someone could create another human out of a single rib. It's quite complex, but definately possible in the long run. |
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| Kraul | May 31 2006, 12:41 PM Post #12 |
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By saying that nothing in science is fact then by agreeing that mixing sodium bicarbonate with vinegar produces visible reaction is fact you contradicted yourself, however small. I was not arguing that everything in science is fact, but that much of it is. And that much more of science is provable fact than anything in religious texts, like the Bible - a book with simple and fantastical explainations for everything because that's the easiest way to attract believers. |
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| Nubochanozep | May 31 2006, 12:43 PM Post #13 |
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But is that useless reaction really comparable to the millions of lives that have been given a point by following the bible? |
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