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Rules to racism.
Topic Started: May 29 2006, 06:25 AM (712 Views)
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I wasn't going to bring up the government but yeah, there's that.
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Maybe more black people than white people commit crimes that have the death penality?
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Or the government is more willing to throw the book at them. But I don't want to start a debate so I won't go any further.
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Jun 1 2006, 05:14 AM
Well, if it's any reassurance to your helpless white people, your beloved government executes more black people than white people. Man, the US is so cool. </sarcasm>

Luckily I live in Canada and we dont have a problem with black people here. There actually pretty nice. We had a native problem. Man there is so many of them.

But luckily there too poor to afford guns. But they to have knives and sticks. And there usually wasted and high so its not like they give a damn about what happens to them. So things can get pretty crazy.
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Jun 1 2006, 10:14 AM
Well, if it's any reassurance to your helpless white people, your beloved government executes more black people than white people. Man, the US is so cool. </sarcasm>

LMFAO!!!


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Is it fair? Do white people have to take it up the ass because of what it was like years ago? Racism hasn't stopped. But the whites are a hell of a lot more quit about it then any other race.


This was the question in the 1st post. Now the thread has turned into how black people get dick over by the government. Just pointing that out.

My final word on this subject is this:

Racism exist. It is not just blacks or whites or Hispanics , but all races that experience it. Some may want to argue that my race gets it worse than your race. But, If I get shot with a .357 and you get shot with a .44 does that make your wound more painful? Does that make your wound worse than mine? Not necessarily. My point is, racism is stupid and we all know its wrong and it sucks. Try not to be apart of it and try to stop the injustice of it when you can.

To do my part, I'm going to make love to a black woman. Do your part how you see fit. :grin:
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Jun 1 2006, 01:20 PM
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Is it fair? Do white people have to take it up the ass because of what it was like years ago? Racism hasn't stopped. But the whites are a hell of a lot more quit about it then any other race.


This was the question in the 1st post. Now the thread has turned into how black people get dick over by the government. Just pointing that out.

My final word on this subject is this:

Racism exist. It is not just blacks or whites or Hispanics , but all races that experience it. Some may want to argue that my race gets it worse than your race. But, If I get shot with a .357 and you get shot with a .44 does that make your wound more painful? Does that make your wound worse than mine? Not necessarily. My point is, racism is stupid and we all know its wrong and it sucks. Try not to be apart of it and try to stop the injustice of it when you can.

To do my part, I'm going to make love to a black woman. Do your part how you see fit. :grin:

I'll make love to an East Western woman then :tu:
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Jun 1 2006, 06:20 PM


To do my part, I'm going to make love to a black woman. Do your part how you see fit. :grin:

Damn, well that means I've done my part on every end of the spectrum.
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Nothing can change the fact that the white man is the biggest victim to racism today. Try being a white guy in your early twenties trying to get a career. When all the jobs are being handed it to less qulifyed people of another race, jsut because they are that race.
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We have about half an aboriginal personnin Australia that actually uses the governments "equal opportunities" deals to get into uni and jobs quicker, and easier. The rest of them simply do not care. I sincerely doubt that it's any differeny in Canada.

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Maybe more black people than white people commit crimes that have the death penality?


Of course, but why? Because they're all violent? I think not. It's because of the lack of decent education that the southern states get. How else do you explain that New England executes a person once every 60 years. I have a better solution though, no death penalty at all!
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Maybe more black people than white people commit crimes that have the death penalty?


Of course, but why? Because they're all violent? I think not. It's because of the lack of decent education that the southern states get. How else do you explain that New England executes a person once every 60 years. I have a better solution though, no death penalty at all!

First, what does the South have to do with it?

Second, If you want to bring up regions of the country, then I would suggest that you look at the % of blacks living in the New England region vs the % living in the Southern region. The "South" has a higher number of blacks so there will be a greater number of arrest and a greater number of death sentences just because of the numbers.

Third, compare the way a state uses or even has the death penalty. I'd say a state like Massachusetts vs a state like Texas will give you a huge difference.

Fourth, Is this a death penalty debate? Cause I say you kill someone on purpose you fry.

Fifth, What does the South have to do with it? I know we aren't as smart as you Northerners what with the way we talk and how we say "Ya'll". I sure am glad we have brilliant people from the North around to tell us how to live our lives properly. Thanks. Next thing you know, we might make decisions for ourselves and get a bunch of Presidents elected year after year.

Now if you will excuse me, I have to go find another black woman to make love to. :)
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Maybe more black people than white people commit crimes that have the death penalty?


Of course, but why? Because they're all violent? I think not. It's because of the lack of decent education that the southern states get. How else do you explain that New England executes a person once every 60 years. I have a better solution though, no death penalty at all!

First, what does the South have to do with it?

Second, If you want to bring up regions of the country, then I would suggest that you look at the % of blacks living in the New England region vs the % living in the Southern region. The "South" has a higher number of blacks so there will be a greater number of arrest and a greater number of death sentences just because of the numbers.

Third, compare the way a state uses or even has the death penalty. I'd say a state like Massachusetts vs a state like Texas will give you a huge difference.

Fourth, Is this a death penalty debate? Cause I say you kill someone on purpose you fry.

Fifth, What does the South have to do with it? I know we aren't as smart as you Northerners what with the way we talk and how we say "Ya'll". I sure am glad we have brilliant people from the North around to tell us how to live our lives properly. Thanks. Next thing you know, we might make decisions for ourselves and get a bunch of Presidents elected year after year.

Now if you will excuse me, I have to go find another black woman to make love to. :)

First: Because that's where most black people live, as you said yourself.

Second: I said that it was due to education that New England governments kill less people per year. You just went ahead and said it was because there's a higher percentage of black people that cause it.

Third: Is it my fault that Massachusetts is regarded worldwide as a much nicer place to live than Texas. The simple fact is that the south sucks.

Fourth: No, but your view is moronic. The death penalty is the uppermost form of hypocritisism. I have no idea why the US remains the only inert state to not abolish the use of capital mur...punishment. I have two words for the US from the rest of the Western world: Grow up.

Fifth: I'm from the US now? No, I'm from Australia, I still regard the south as a hellhole that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot poll. I intend to travel to the US one day, but I'll be sure to not meander south of New York-Michigan-California. Draw a line across those three states, and that's as far as I'll go.
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I'm not sure why you are getting so fired up over this, but I'm always glad to perpetuate an argument. :grin:

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Second: I said that it was due to education that New England governments kill less people per year. You just went ahead and said it was because there's a higher percentage of black people that cause it.


You did not say that it was due to a lack of Education that New England kills more. You said:

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Maybe more black people than white people commit crimes that have the death penalty?


Of course, but why? Because they're all violent? I think not. It's because of the lack of decent education that the southern states get


Which is saying more Southern black people commit crimes because they are uneducated.


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Fourth: No, but your view is moronic.


So anyone that disagrees with the way you think is thought to have a moronic view?

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Fifth: I'm from the US now? No, I'm from Australia, I still regard the south as a hellhole that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot poll. I intend to travel to the US one day, but I'll be sure to not meander south of New York-Michigan-California. Draw a line across those three states, and that's as far as I'll go.

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Third: Is it my fault that Massachusetts is regarded worldwide as a much nicer place to live than Texas. The simple fact is that the south sucks.


OK, I was wrong saying you were from the Northern US. I didn't take time to look to see where you were from. That was my bad. I am relatively new here and don't know where everyone is from.

But, they way you spoke, you made it sound as if that was where you were speaking from. Come to find out, you not only do not live in the USA, you have never been in the USA. So, the only information you base your opinion on is what you see in the media, TV, movies etc. You don't know anything from first hand experience. As a matter of fact you live on the other side of the planet from the USA. I don't think you would want me commenting so emphatically on your country because I saw Crocodile Dundee.Basically you seem to say that The north east, New York and West, California, are the great places in the USA. They are also the media capitals of the world. Maybe that has influenced the way you see the USA?
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Nothing can change the fact that the white man is the biggest victim to racism today. Try being a white guy in your early twenties trying to get a career. When all the jobs are being handed it to less qulifyed people of another race, jsut because they are that race.

The whole job thing can go both ways. Let say a black guy has more qualifications he may not get hired in place of a white guy (it happened to my Mom, so I know). It depends on the bosses preference. He'll hire a person of different nationalities to fit the quota. But then you have the people who don't want to hire any blacks, and whites, or any one of other races.

The media, is racial every way to. Depending on which show you watch you'll see a white crack fest, or a Black person getting stereotyped. And there's a total lack of Asians, Hispanics, and other races in the media. It's very rare to see those races on any show.

The School System, it depends on the Teacher's bias.

The Government, once again, it depends on the peopl who run it.

In the end, not just one race is being targeted or being the most targeted. It always comes down to who's incharged, and what that person's bias is.
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Jun 3 2006, 01:06 AM
I'm not sure why you are getting so fired up over this, but I'm always glad to perpetuate an argument. :grin:

I suppose it's because the death penalty isn't something that requires a pinch of salt point of view, it's a serious matter.

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Second: I said that it was due to education that New England governments kill less people per year. You just went ahead and said it was because there's a higher percentage of black people that cause it.


You did not say that it was due to a lack of Education that New England kills more. You said:

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Maybe more black people than white people commit crimes that have the death penalty?


Of course, but why? Because they're all violent? I think not. It's because of the lack of decent education that the southern states get


Which is saying more Southern black people commit crimes because they are uneducated.


I said in my original post that it was because of the lack of education in the south that the US kills more people down there each year. I then said that it was because of the better education (hence wealth brackets) that New England kills less people per year. I never said New England kills more :-/

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Fifth: I'm from the US now? No, I'm from Australia, I still regard the south as a hellhole that I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot poll. I intend to travel to the US one day, but I'll be sure to not meander south of New York-Michigan-California. Draw a line across those three states, and that's as far as I'll go.

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Third: Is it my fault that Massachusetts is regarded worldwide as a much nicer place to live than Texas. The simple fact is that the south sucks.


OK, I was wrong saying you were from the Northern US. I didn't take time to look to see where you were from. That was my bad. I am relatively new here and don't know where everyone is from.

But, they way you spoke, you made it sound as if that was where you were speaking from. Come to find out, you not only do not live in the USA, you have never been in the USA. So, the only information you base your opinion on is what you see in the media, TV, movies etc. You don't know anything from first hand experience. As a matter of fact you live on the other side of the planet from the USA. I don't think you would want me commenting so emphatically on your country because I saw Crocodile Dundee.Basically you seem to say that The north east, New York and West, California, are the great places in the USA. They are also the media capitals of the world. Maybe that has influenced the way you see the USA?


The sad fact is that I know more about the US then a lot of people who live there on this website. I know more about the history, the habits, the worldwide perceptions and the government than about 75% of people on this website who actually come from the US.

I also don't consider it a prerequisite to live in the US, before talking about it. Surely if your government believes that getting clearance from a congress that is dominated by American nationals, before invading another country is just, then I'm allowed to critisize and talk about your country without actually living there. Poor example? Probably, but surely you understand what I mean. I don't have to live in the US to pass judgements on things such as New England being better than Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and whatever other hick dominated floodplains lie in the south.

And hell, while I'm at it you would have surely noted that I included (a long time ago) Boston as the city in the US where I would love to travel to first. Boston seems like the best damn place in the US to visit, because it seems like such a nice city. In fact, the whole area above Boston, with it's climate, liberal attitudes, deciduous forests, country towns, mountains and lakes seems like heaven on earth from the videos and pictures that I've seen. If I know my US geography, California, New York/Philly/Washington are quite different geographically from the area that I just named. The east coasts major citites (esp. NY) are built up to the maximum cities which would be nice for a visit, but by no means do I limit my perception of the US to these states. It's unfair for you to assume that my entire perception of the US is hinged on the cities of NY and LA.
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I don't have to live in the US to pass judgements on things such as New England being better than Mississippi, Alabama, Texas and whatever other hick dominated floodplains lie in the south.

I sincerely hope I'm reading you wrong. Do you honestly think that everyone living in a southern state (mainly the ones you named) are "hicks" or are you just referring to the uneducated population? Because I really think stereotyping an entire region is more harmful to your argument than helpful.
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Of course not, but the fact that it has the largest proportion of hicks doesn't exactly help it's cause.
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Jun 2 2006, 11:18 PM
Of course not, but the fact that it has the largest proportion of hicks doesn't exactly help it's cause.

LOL. You make it sound like hicks are bad people. Im not a hick myself. But having a beer and some hotdogs on the grill outside a Bomber game with a hick from Saskatchewan can be a fun time.
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Canadians can't be hicks my friend. At the very worst people call them Hosers. You should be thankful that everyone loves your country so much.
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Jun 3 2006, 02:23 AM
Canadians can't be hicks my friend. At the very worst people call them Hosers. You should be thankful that everyone loves your country so much.

Yes lots of people do love Canada. Its just that you guys no squat about it. But thats not your fault its your school systems fault. They see a lack to teach about any other country but there own.

Canadian CAN'T be hicks. I heard you were the best debater. That remark just wasnt very smart. Unless it was a joke. Then all is cool. I can take a joke. Im not french.

But man most people in the province of Saskatchewan are hicks.

It may come to a shock that Canada isnt ICE all year round, and we dont live in IGLOOS, and we dont have to watch out from flying HOCKEY pucks. It just isnt true.
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Jun 3 2006, 03:23 AM
Canadians can't be hicks my friend.

I know a girl at another forum that you should talk to. She's from Canada and she's a bigger "hick" than anyone I've ever met.

I think "hick" is more of a stereotype than anything else, at least when used a detogorary statement. Usually when someone calls someone esle a "hick", they are simply calling them extremely conservative. There's nothing wrong with be conservative, if that's your view on life.
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Canadians can't be hicks my friend. At the very worst people call them Hosers. You should be thankful that everyone loves your country so much.

Yes lots of people do love Canada. Its just that you guys no squat about it. But thats not your fault its your school systems fault. They see a lack to teach about any other country but there own.

Canadian CAN'T be hicks. I heard you were the best debater. That remark just wasnt very smart. Unless it was a joke. Then all is cool. I can take a joke. Im not french.

But man most people in the province of Saskatchewan are hicks.

It may come to a shock that Canada isnt ICE all year round, and we dont live in IGLOOS, and we dont have to watch out from flying HOCKEY pucks. It just isnt true.

We know squat about it, because simply put your country doesn't really matter to Australia. I don't think Canadians learn anything about Australia in their schools, hence it shouldn't be a surprise to you that the same principal is in effect in Australia.
Don't even attempt to insult other countries education programs when your own is probably on par with the ignorance displayed all over the world in terms of foreign knowledge.

In fact, if we really wanted to categorise countries based on who we should learn about first then our entire history program should be dominated by news from Israel and it's history, seeing as it's some of the richest in the world, and it's all basically occured from 1945 and onwards.

And no, it doesn't come to a shock to me that most Canadians don't live in igloos. The only people who I think would believe that stereotype would be, well, nobody really. In fact, I consider it an insult that you'd think I believe that about your country. Isn't it like 0.01% of you countries population that's centered around the chilly regions of Nunavut, Yukon, and the surrounds of Hudon Bay? The rest is centered along that little band of cities that borders with the US.

Then again, I guess the same applies in Australia. I bet you there's some folks out there that believe that there's kangaroos bouncing around in the middle of Sydney. Hell, some people probably believe that Sydney, or any other Australia city is a few wooden shacks amongst gum trees. Hey some probably believe that we all carry knives around too and speak with a thick Australian accent, and sit down as a family to watch Neighbours each night whilst drinking a can of Fosters. Yeah?

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Usually when someone calls someone esle a "hick", they are simply calling them extremely conservative.


No, I classify a hick as a yokel who has a terrible hairdo, crappy accent, poor job/income and no desire to improve their current state. Oh, they have to live in the US too.
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I classify a hick as a yokel who has a terrible hairdo, crappy accent, poor job/income and no desire to improve their current state. Oh, they have to live in the US too.

Hairstyle and accents are horrible things to judge a person on. Everybody has an accent and people around the world react differently to different accents. As far as the poor job/poor education subject is concerned, that is really a Catch 22 situation. You need good money to obtain a decent education and you need an education to obtain a job that pays good money. And as far as the "no desire to improve their current state" is concerned, most individuals tend to fall into a comfort zone where they are comfortable with their settings and have no goals of doing better simply because they have no reason to. Why single out a specific region when an estimate of some 90% of the population or more do the same?

I'm from the southern region of the U.S. While SC isn't considered the "deep south", I do have family and friends in Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, and various other states that people associate the "hick" stereotype. I think the term "hick" is no different than calling a black person a "nigga" a Mexican a "spic" or any other hate phrase people use against each other. It's all based off ignorance and stereotyping. :no:
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As far as the poor job/poor education subject is concerned, that is really a Catch 22 situation. You need good money to obtain a decent education and you need an education to obtain a job that pays good money.

Move to a country that supports education for everyone then. It's not my fault that you live in a country where the government favours funding for attacking another country over educating your own people. Australia? My university fees are funded something like 75% by the federal government, and even then they pay entirely for it until you start earning over $35,000 and you begin paying back your tiny share through tax. Anyone in Australia can get a good education providing they put in the hard study to get there.


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I'm from the southern region of the U.S. While SC isn't considered the "deep south", I do have family and friends in Tennessee, Mississippi, Georgia, and various other states that people associate the "hick" stereotype.  I think the term "hick" is no different than calling a black person a "nigga" a Mexican a "spic" or any other hate phrase people use against each other.  It's all based off ignorance and stereotyping. :no:


No, once again, it's not based on a stereotype. I don't go around saying "everyone from Texas is a freaking hick!", no, I go around saying that "the south has the greatest concentration of hicks, whom I don't like for the reasons I outlined above" Calling a black person a nigga in a derogatory way is cruel and unusual, because there's nothing wrong with being black, and if there was they cannot change it. There is something wrong with being a hick, because by and large those hicks have the highest rate of unemployment, and the highest rate of crime amongst all American citizens. I see no reason to defend people that bludge off the government because they can't be bothered getting a job, getting an education or because they (per capita) commit more crimes then say, someone from anywhere else in the US on a per capita basis.

If your family members don't fit that description, then quite simply they're not a hick.
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Jun 3 2006, 09:37 PM
Move to a country that supports education for everyone then.

While that is a nice pipe dream, it's not exactly a plausible solution. Millions of people cannot just up and emigrate to a different country. Well, actually that's worded improperly. Emigration in large numbers is entirely possible, but not for the reasons outlined in this discussion.

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No, once again, it's not based on a stereotype.

Unless I'm mistaken, you are specifically targeting white southerners (and their accents to boot!). Under education, unemployment, and crime apply to all races of all regions of the U.S. Why is an undereducated white southerner with a piss poor job a "hick" when an undereducated black individual with no job from say New York selling drugs on a street corner(or anywhere else) not a "hick"?
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Iuno, different regions. I regard both with the same contempt, and the black guy in NY gets a harsher time under the law doesn't he?
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the black guy in NY gets a harsher time under the law doesn't he?

Each U.S. state creates its own state laws and punishments. I'm not familiar with the state laws for all the U.S. states so I'm not qualified to say. However, I think it depends on the offense of each person and how much each person can afford on legal counseling. Poor people spend more time in jail than people with wealth. It would also depend on how strict each state enforces their laws. If a state is taking a strong stance against illegal drug sales, then they'll sentence someone to a longer sentence than a state that isn't really plagued with drug problems. Although, I guess that last argument is only valid if you are comparing the sentence that a black male from NY (or any other state) receives for selling drugs as compared to the sentence a white male from Mississippi (or any other state) receives for selling drugs.
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I've been trying to ignore this topic for long enough but I cannot any longer.

How could Racism have rules? You are insulting people for what they look like. What is the point. Racism is the insulting of someone who is different. Yeah sure back in the days ofRacism in the USA and Martin Luther King there was racism but what the hell for. We are all people. I see nothing wrong with that. It isn't like we don't get on. Heck we are all people as I have just said. No one is different. It is not like we are at war. Why would we be at war with someone of a different race, belief, culture, or creed?

There is no excuse for racism. I hate those KKK bastards for what they done in the USA. It was what they believed in. The KKK got a bad name for that when they were supposed to be doing something else.

Black people are steriotyped for nor reason. No wonder we get called crazy ass white boys off black people. We were the ones that started all this crap. And when a black person speak of what they think of us, we act as it is a crime.

I wish for a world without racism because although people se it as funny and unharmful it is. Whether you have a disabillity or you have a different colour skin. What is the difference?

None. I have two friends at my Archery club both oof whom are disabled. Vicky, who is a damn good archer may I add, has a hip problem which she was born with. She is about 4"9' and she will be like that for the rest of her life.

Her Brother Conner who also is in my archery club has downs syndrome. But he lives his life eventhough he cannot do alot to help himself.

You see no matter what you look like or how you act we are all the same one way and another.

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