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| Your thoughts on Cena/Orton marks...; Also Cade if you want | |
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| Topic Started: Sep 22 2006, 04:45 PM (939 Views) | |
| 15 Shows | Sep 23 2006, 04:46 AM Post #31 |
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Aint cheatin aint tryin
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I dont think I was around for it. What happened? |
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| Nubochanozep | Sep 23 2006, 04:51 AM Post #32 |
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Ralphy had some problems there, something happened, lots of porn posted here and lots of angryness between the two. We essentially ignored them. It worked out best that way. |
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| MY85 | Sep 23 2006, 04:52 AM Post #33 |
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It's a fabulous new day, yes it is!
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My intention with this thread wasn't to start a flamewar. I just wanted to know everybody's opinions about the three things I pointed out. Guess I got some good replies from it. And I think in my opinion, it's a tie between the last two, but the Cena marks are stubborn as hell. |
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| 15 Shows | Sep 23 2006, 04:55 AM Post #34 |
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Aint cheatin aint tryin
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Thats becasue there dead set that he is the greatest. And I mean how can he be the greatest when we all know there is only one man who is the greatest. And that man is obviously The Game, The King Of Kings, Triple H. |
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| TheObserver | Sep 23 2006, 12:26 PM Post #35 |
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Since this is wrestling related, it should've got thrown in the WWE folder, but I don't know what Cy thinks. :dunno: |
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| WWEFootos48 | Sep 23 2006, 12:43 PM Post #36 |
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Well, in terms of Shows' post, with Cena and Orton's growth, I have something to say towards that. As Cy said, they've been on TV at least 3-4 years now, and if anything, they've only gone downhill. Cena started off strong, got even stronger in 2003, but has fell flat in the past 2 years. Cena has just plainly gone bland, without using what "Made" his character. His interesting character was based off of this rapper, who would battle-rap his opponents, and not give a damn about anyone. These days, he doesn't do anything. He lets the opponents come to him, (which is part of being the Champion, I guess) and when he fights someone, he says the exact same thing everytime. "If you have a problem with me, fight me." Orton is just a lost cause. As I alluded to, he wrestled pretty well, as a face, (watch his Royal Rumble 2005 match against Triple H; he carried half the match without using a headlock) but as a heel, uses his character and "looks" to get over. I do like his character, but as Cena, he has lost his ability through time. I don't even think he calls himself the "Legend Killer" anymore, unless he's wrestling a 60-year old guy. Along with that, his backstage antics have pushed me past my edge, and if The WWE didn't suspiciously change the suspension rule right before he got caught, he would have been canned on the spot. |
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| TheObserver | Sep 23 2006, 12:47 PM Post #37 |
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That's it, I'm taking matters into my own hands, I'ma move this to the WWE folder and rename the thread title. |
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| Ashy Shaq | Sep 23 2006, 09:40 PM Post #38 |
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The Silver Standard
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There was porn? Damn it! I should have signed up months ago!:cry: |
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| Sarkar | Sep 24 2006, 02:28 AM Post #39 |
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I'm Done
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I already made peace with the Admin of the board by giving him my old HWF forum. |
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| yooperchild | Sep 24 2006, 02:52 AM Post #40 |
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I don't even remember a flame war type thing and while I haven't been here that long, I've been floating around TV.com for awhile. To me any mark, it doesn't matter who, can ruin a wrestler. I think in order to call yourself a fan of someone you have to be able to acknowledge the fact that someone will have short comings. People who flame everyone that doesn't have the exact opinion as them are just lame. |
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| rapper150 | Sep 24 2006, 02:55 AM Post #41 |
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Cena marks are the most annoying. |
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| rapper150 | Sep 24 2006, 03:03 AM Post #42 |
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Hey Cybrus, what do you think of Raw marks? I know its not on the list of Cena/Orton marks. |
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| Sarkar | Sep 24 2006, 03:51 AM Post #43 |
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I'm Done
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RAW Marks? What the-? |
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| 4400TVJunkie | Sep 24 2006, 07:48 AM Post #44 |
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All hail King Booker!
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I think it's a bit unfair to assume all the Cena marks are women and young kids. Yeah a majority of them could be but some older guys do like Cena. There's another forum that I visit frequently and one of the moderators is probably the biggest Cena mark on there. Oh, and he's about 30 and has a son. He totally makes some of the anti-Cena members look like complete idiots because a lot of them just rehash the same old stuff others do. "He can't wrestle. He only has five moves. He's a spotlight hog." Blah blah blah. When he brings up flaws in their arguments, they can't come back with a valid response so they start acting stupid. Anyway, he's actually turned a few haters into fans or neutrals. So I'll say that the Cena marks that are incapable of putting a complete sentence together or are flamers are the annoying ones. The other Cena marks that are very intelligent, polite, and open to accepting both sides of the argument are the awesome ones. Really, I find it's the anti-Cena fans that you must watch out for. Some of them are the most immature, idiotic people I've ever run into on a forum. Just my two cents. |
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| Legacy | Sep 24 2006, 07:53 AM Post #45 |
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snooooooooop
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I may be a Cena mark but I even get annoyed by people saying he is the best. Orton marks are manily girls. Who likes Lance Cade? |
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| Cybrus | Sep 24 2006, 09:58 AM Post #46 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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I think that anyone that argues that one person/brand is nothing but great is annoying. It's alright to be a fan, but everything has its flaws. Raw maybe the flagship show of WWE, but it has several flaws. People that refuse to discuss these flaws while refusing to acknowledge that SD! (or ECW) has any strong points and is nothing more than an "inferior waste of time that is bringing WWE down" annoys me. All three brands have their strong points and all three brands have their weak points. |
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| rapper150 | Sep 24 2006, 04:08 PM Post #47 |
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Thanks, i just wnated to know. |
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| MY85 | Sep 24 2006, 09:52 PM Post #48 |
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It's a fabulous new day, yes it is!
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I think that guy you're talking about is currently trying to convince people that Randy Orton doesn't suck. When I think about that, it's an interesting challenge. But yesterday on a chat session that I had with some 6SW members (including WWEWhoseLine), we thought that it was nearly impossible to defend Orton (well, it's Orton's fault, lol) against his haters, but defending Cena is a bit easier. As for anti-Cena fans, those combined with the Cena marks that can't write a sentence gives a disasterous result. I happen to post in a peruvian forum related to wrestling and they really hate the guy's guts to death (typically saying he sucks and he doesn't deserve the main event status plus with or without arguement), to the point where they'll attack him once he steps foot in Peru. |
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| Cybrus | Sep 24 2006, 10:08 PM Post #49 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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I read his comments. I thought they were well thought out, but not entirely accurate. I could listen to a guy talk about how Orton is slightly above average, but the guy said Orton is the best in the world at this point. I think that guy would be a great addition to 6SW though.
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| WWEFootos48 | Sep 24 2006, 10:10 PM Post #50 |
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That is exactly true. Long story short, noting the past of both wrestlers, Cena does have talent, while Orton has some. You could say that WWE is single-handedly killing what Cena had, with reducing his moveset, and "Originality" he had with his gimmick, but Orton is holding Orton down. It's fine if his gimmick is that of a "Brash," young, cocky wrestler, but when he doesn't show a lick of respect of the buisness, or its superstars, yet the chairman pushes him as the "Future," you're going to have problems with some people. |
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| MY85 | Sep 24 2006, 10:24 PM Post #51 |
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It's a fabulous new day, yes it is!
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He had his good points, but I think he killed a part of his whole arguement with the "Orton is the best in the world at this point" part. |
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| SRP76 | Sep 24 2006, 10:38 PM Post #52 |
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The Man. Any Questions?
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Orton is the best in the world? At what? Even among Orton-lovers, I've never seen anyone go that far. |
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| _DL_ | Sep 24 2006, 10:45 PM Post #53 |
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BURN IT DOOOWWNNNNNNNN!
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Orton is the best at head locks, end of story.. |
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| Cybrus | Sep 24 2006, 11:06 PM Post #54 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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Instead of linking you, I'll simply copy and paste the relevant post. He didn't actually post this in the thread, someone else is just quoting him. So I gues I'm quoting a quote:
Again, it is well written, but his points are exaggerated, I think. Also, I do not intent any disrespect to the poster by quoting him here. I'm just bringing his points into a similar conversation, which is no different than someone quoting an online editorialist. |
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| WWEFootos48 | Sep 24 2006, 11:16 PM Post #55 |
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Actually, I have a point for everything he wrote:
Just because we're on the subject on Orton, doesn't mean this type of move is just limited to him. As Neb described in a post about a month ago, guys like Michaels, Triple H, or Flair can all do the same thing. Triple H and Flair are notorious of selling the "Face," making it look like he can win the match, and Michaels plainly sells to make his opponent look superior. Michaels sells the hell out of any move a "Superheavyweight" performs, while he can adapt to even a smaller wrestler, putting them over the same.
Top notch Psychology? Kurt Angle and Ric Flair got over by working on their opponents' legs, to weaken them, ultimately to slap on their respective holds. Same for Benoit. Again, it's not like Orton is the only one that can do it. Besides, the only reason he knows how to work on the "Head" area, is because he has no moves that work anywhere lower on the body.
I could give him this one. Yet, unlike The Rock, he becomes very repetitive on the mic. He basically says the same exact thing every time he talks, and when he loses, goes down the heel "Excuse" lane, which has been overplayed since day 1. I do like his gimmick, but it can become boring, which it has. |
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| SRP76 | Sep 24 2006, 11:18 PM Post #56 |
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The Man. Any Questions?
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I believed you, I just hadn't seen someone go that far before.
After reading that, I will agree; all those points are greatly exaggerated. But, keeping with the actual topic, I will say that this guy is an example of an "Orton Mark" that does NOT go all non-English, starry-eyed fool when discussing Orton. |
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| Lionheart | Sep 26 2006, 06:00 PM Post #57 |
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Heat Lifer
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I kinda mellowed out towards Cena during my time away. But then I just choose not to watch his matches. I find Orton marks the most annoying. While Cena marks tend to piss me off, Cena has charisma, so they at least have something to get behing him with. Orton has zelch, maybe a drop kick, headlock, and over using the word destiny. I don't know who the Cade fan is so I won't touch that. |
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| 4400TVJunkie | Sep 26 2006, 08:54 PM Post #58 |
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All hail King Booker!
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Nope that's definitely not him. They guy I mentioned strongly dislikes Orton and wished he was was fired when he failed that drug test. So this CenaMark54 is another guy. I knew not to take his Orton argument seriously when he proclaimed Orton as being better than Flair, HBK, Benoit, Angle, etc. I agree he'd be a great addition to 6SW. |
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| Ashy Shaq | Sep 26 2006, 11:43 PM Post #59 |
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Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah! There's a Lance Cade mark? I need to back the hell up! *reads posts* Oh yeah, that spazzy kind of guy from tv.com. He's annoying as hell! I'm a Big Vis mark (500-pound love machine and my new pickup name, what's not to love?) but I don't go shouting it to the high heavens |
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| HHHKingOfKings | Sep 26 2006, 11:56 PM Post #60 |
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Black Label Society #1
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this may sound gay but petar griffen i love you lol your my favotie member on 6Sw lol |
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