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Raw Discussion 7/9/07
Topic Started: Jul 9 2007, 12:50 AM (805 Views)
Ashy Shaq
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Dark-Loner
Jul 9 2007, 10:51 PM
TapOutAngleLock
Jul 9 2007, 10:46 PM
Kennedy gets worse and worse every week. I mean you could tell in that promo with Booker, Kennedy has alot to work on.

I didn't see it yet so I can't comment on it, but I already know not to take your word for it :lol:

Like my sig says:

"I'm pretty sure that if Kennedy was an ROH guy, TOAL would be sucking Kennedy's dick."
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Jeff Hardy how random is there any reason why there partners?
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Kraul

...because Lashley needed a partner and Jeff wasn't booked in any other match that night? That's pretty much it, I think. :-/

I tend to fade out when the main event hits anyway. I'm not fan of Cena or Lashley, so hearing Jim Ross have a verbal erection over the actions of one or both of them does little for me.

This RAW was....meh. I've seen worse, but nothing will really stand out for me at all.
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4400TVJunkie
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Jerry is more annoying on commentary than ever. He says the most random comments ever.

RAW was okay. Finally Beth Phoenix reappears! Women's match was waaaay too short for the performers involved.

Kurt Angle on WWE TV again? I half expected them to blur out his face or something. :lol:

I don't like Booker and Kennedy on RAW. The more I see them on RAW each week, the more I hate their move there. It's not that I don't think they're worthy of being on RAW, it's just that......RAW isn't the show for them.

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Kennedy and Booker T are the best things on Raw at the moment. The Paul London vs Shelton match was the only match I really sat and watched with interest. These two could be making the IC title look good, but whatever.

I too hate Cena and Lashley. I don't care who wins the title. I think Bobby might, but to me it's a lateral move for the WWE title and doesn't make the WWE title the least bit interesting again. I know that I (among others) have spent the last 2 years begging for the WWE to take the title off of Cena, but I don't see how making Bobby Lashley champ is really any better.

The WWE champion needs to be a heel. It's always more interesting for a face to chase a heel and we haven't really had that in 2 years.
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Jul 10 2007, 03:23 AM
The WWE champion needs to be a heel. It's always more interesting for a face to chase a heel and we haven't really had that in 2 years.

I agree, I mean sure let the heel hold it for a while but comon... I mean the last heel to hold it was Edge, and that was cool, I began liking Cena again, the Edge vs Cena rivalry was great.
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I thought RAW was really solid this week.

But I loved the Dusty/Orton segment. Dusty was better on the mic then usual, besides his mis use of the word disrepectful, and Orton is just better and better every week. But I gotta say, even I laughed when Dusty said Orton looked stupid. Then I looked at Dusty and said to myself "how dare he?" And I don't know about Cody. But he got the first ever "Cody" chant when he slapped Orton. And did you see the look on Orton's face when he got slapped. You want great manurisms, don't look to the 245 pound Kennedy. Look at Orton.

And then we have the Triple H videos. I cranked up the volume both times it was on. I'm kinda pissed they won't tell me when he's coming back. I just miss him so much.

Carlito was great during the Regall match. And Regall was great in Coach's office. I can smell a battle for power between Regal and Coach. It would be so good.

2 tag team division matches. What more can you ask for. I don't think it's gonna be a gay storyline. I think they were just having some fun with Shelton on his b-day.

Lashley is awesome, so get with the freakin program people. As for Kennedy. Well you all saw. He was horrible. And he was his usual self.
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Jul 9 2007, 11:40 PM
But I loved the Dusty/Orton segment. Dusty was better on the mic then usual, besides his mis use of the word disrepectful, and Orton is just better and better every week. But I gotta say, even I laughed when Dusty said Orton looked stupid. Then I looked at Dusty and said to myself "how dare he?" And I don't know about Cody. But he got the first ever "Cody" chant when he slapped Orton. And did you see the look on Orton's face when he got slapped. You want great manurisms, don't look to the 245 pound Kennedy. Look at Orton.


I actually thought this was the best part of the show. Very entertaining.
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Kame

Wow, I really thought RAW sucked tonight... I have this weird feeling that I'm going to stop watching wrestling soon... It just no longer entertains me like it used to...

The highlight of the show was definately the Dusty, Cody and Orton segment. I'm actually looking forward to their match at GAB. However, I'm sure every one would rather see Cody debut, rather than having Dusty in the match.

I really, really thought Lashley's partner was going to be Y2J. As soon as I heard Jeff's music, I said "you got to be fucking kidding me!" Immediately, I turned off the TV and went to bed. What a fucking let-down! :cry:
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Jul 10 2007, 03:21 AM
Jerry is more annoying on commentary than ever. He says the most random comments ever.

RAW was okay. Finally Beth Phoenix reappears! Women's match was waaaay too short for the performers involved.

Kurt Angle on WWE TV again? I half expected them to blur out his face or something.  :lol:

I don't like Booker and Kennedy on RAW. The more I see them on RAW each week, the more I hate their move there. It's not that I don't think they're worthy of being on RAW, it's just that......RAW isn't the show for them.

Well, Angle is still respected by WWE no matter what. Sure younger fans won't know who Kurt is, but we will. Hopefully Cena's younger fans will get to see how he was throughout his 2002-2004 career,cause let's face it. Most of his younger fan base started watching around 2005 to now.



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Wow, I really thought RAW sucked tonight... I have this weird feeling that I'm going to stop watching wrestling soon... It just no longer entertains me like it used to...



I'll agree with you on that. Except for the part of stop watching wrestling. There's many more out there,but not many of them have TV deals here. I just don't get how the quality of RAW was over the past weeks could go down so low. No matter how tasteless the Vince death storyline was, it would've made for a great Summer storyline,and would've been forever in WWE history as IMO one of the best story-lines ever. Although RAW sucked,at least SmackDown! has the matches to watch.
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Raw bored me last night.

Only things of interest was London/Shelton, seeing Beth Phoenix again, Kurt Angle on tv, and barely the Dusty/Orton promo, which most of the promo was all Dusty's credit.

They could have made the show more interesting if they had use Triple H or Rey Mysterio as Lashley's partner, for shock value. They aired twice Triple H returns videos, I was even thinking that maybe Trips would team up with Lashley.
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I'm watching it now. Is there anything worthwhile I should look out for?
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MY85
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Reader Jeremy passed along the following live RAW notes:

There was a decent crowd, with only the really bad sections in the corners behind the stage tarped off.

Every time any picture of John Cena came on the Tron, only little girls screamed... I see what everyone is talking about.

Lashley got a decent pop, and the HHH videos got a big reaction as well.

It was a so-so show with a lot of squashes and crowd seemed pretty dead except for the Dusty segment, which got by far the biggest pop of the night.

The crowd cheered the hell out of Cody Runnles as well, and loved seeing Dusty punk out Randy Orton.

I don't know how it came off on TV yet, but is just seemed very quiet in there, and Cena not showing really broke a lot of kids hearts. He was the main reason why a lot of the young crowd came, judging by the merchandise and reactions.

My only complaint was that we paid for top notch tickets and the seats were very poor. WWE really needs to do something about their ticket pricing brackets and clarity on where your seats are when you buy them.


and Cena not showing really broke a lot of kids hearts... :lol:
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Ashy Shaq
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MakeYourself85
Jul 10 2007, 06:18 AM
and barely the Dusty/Orton promo, which most of the promo was all Dusty's credit.


Not really. The thing that made that segment so great was the electricity between the 2 of them. It didn't matter if Dusty messed up his words a bit because the intensity was so great. Even Cody has a good snarl towards Orton. Orton's reactions to the things Dusty was saying were great. Everything Dusty did was awesome, everything Orton did was awesome. It was just a great segment.
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Jul 9 2007, 08:40 PM
But I loved the Dusty/Orton segment. Dusty was better on the mic then usual, besides his mis use of the word disrepectful, and Orton is just better and better every week. But I gotta say, even I laughed when Dusty said Orton looked stupid. Then I looked at Dusty and said to myself "how dare he?" And I don't know about Cody. But he got the first ever "Cody" chant when he slapped Orton. And did you see the look on Orton's face when he got slapped. You want great manurisms, don't look to the 245 pound Kennedy. Look at Orton.

And then we have the Triple H videos. I cranked up the volume both times it was on. I'm kinda pissed they won't tell me when he's coming back. I just miss him so much.

I agree with you here Shows. Randy Orton has really grown on to me. I love the guy. He has underrated mic skills and I loved that whole promo.

As for Trips, man I can't wait. Raw has been missing something lately and it hasn't been the heart break kid...
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MY85
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Dunno why, but when I saw the Dusty/Orton promo, I felt like I've seen it before, somewhere else... I'm not denying it was probably one of the highlights of the show, but I felt like I've sene it before. :S
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Jul 9 2007, 10:30 PM
Why did Shelton lose again.

To set up the kissing segment that happened later in the show.
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MakeYourself85
Jul 10 2007, 05:47 PM
Dunno why, but when I saw the Dusty/Orton promo, I felt like I've seen it before, somewhere else... I'm not denying it was probably one of the highlights of the show, but I felt like I've sene it before. :S

Your dislike for Orton clouded your judgment. Accept it...........and move on.
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Jul 10 2007, 09:39 PM
Your dislike for Orton clouded your judgment. Accept it...........and move on.

And your gay man crush on him make you see everything he does through rose colored glasses.
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Purplemarauder
Jul 10 2007, 08:49 PM
Jimmy 15
Jul 10 2007, 09:39 PM
Your dislike for Orton clouded your judgment. Accept it...........and move on.

And your gay man crush on him make you see everything he does through rose colored glasses.

Considering the fact that you talk about Orton more then I do, makes me wonder if it's you who has the gay man crush on Orton or if it's Cybrus who has the gay man crush on me. I'll let you figure the pickle out. And I know the word pickle might mean something entirely different to you and your people, but I'm sure you'll get passed. Mkay pumpkin.
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Jimmy 15
Jul 10 2007, 09:52 PM
Purplemarauder
Jul 10 2007, 08:49 PM
Jimmy 15
Jul 10 2007, 09:39 PM
Your dislike for Orton clouded your judgment. Accept it...........and move on.

And your gay man crush on him make you see everything he does through rose colored glasses.

Considering the fact that you talk about Orton more then I do, makes me wonder if it's you who has the gay man crush on Orton or if it's Cybrus who has the gay man crush on me. I'll let you figure the pickle out. And I know the word pickle might mean something entirely different to you and your people, but I'm sure you'll get passed. Mkay pumpkin.

:lol:

Same thing everytime. "I know you are but what am I?"

I talk about Orton when the subject comes up or when he is relavant to the conversation. This discussion is about Raw and The Orton segment. Don't let your defensiveness of you man get in the way of having an intellegent discussion.

MakeYourself85 said he felt like he had seen saomething similar and you automatically came in defensively saying it was just because he hated Orton. With the recycled material that wrestling continually has, I'm sure that a similar segment has been done in the past.

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Jul 10 2007, 09:07 PM
I talk about Orton when the subject comes up or when he is relavant to the conversation. This discussion is about Raw and The Orton segment. Don't let your defensiveness of you man get in the way of having an intellegent discussion.

Oh child. You have been bring Randy Orton up in every wrestling thread I have been discussing in.

And I know this particular conversastion was about Orton. But you jumped in with the gay comment directed towards me. So it was defending Orton so much as it was defending myself.

Your clearly trying to twists things around to shine the spotlight away from yourself, because of hit a trigger on your love for Randy Orton. So stop it, cause the jig is up.
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Or you clearly think everything is always about you even when it isn't. So, now, no one is allowed to bring up Randy Orton in a negative way or its a direct attack on you? Get over yourself.
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Okay guys, break it up!

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- RAW's 3.4 rating this week is the lowest rating for a non-holiday airing of the show since September 26th, 2005


Yikes. There was nothing on last night so I wonder why the rating was lower than usual.
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Kraul

Larry King Live with Jericho and everyone come on at the same time as the first hour of RAW. That Larry King special probably dragged a lot of viewers away, especially those who are more interested in understanding more about the death of the Benoits rather than watch RAW.

Also, there wasn't really anything that special hyping up RAW. And when it did air, nothing really that interesting happened.
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Kraul
Jul 11 2007, 01:19 AM
Larry King Live with Jericho and everyone come on at the same time as the first hour of RAW. That Larry King special probably dragged a lot of viewers away, especially those who are more interested in understanding more about the death of the Benoits rather than watch RAW.

The ratings for Larry King Live was down as well, so I don't think that show had much of an affect on Raw's lower-than-average rating.

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Larry King, which drew a 0.78 rating last night with John Cena, Chris Jericho, and Bret Hart among the guests, was down from last Monday's episode, which drew a 0.91 rating. The ratings indicate that some of the usual LKL viewers weren't interested in the Benoit tragedy or at least the way it was presented. It also indicates that the audience on LKL wasn't large enough to entirely explain the sharp drop in the Raw ratings, although the drop was greater in hour one than hour two, so at least some of the drop may have been due to LKL.


Perhaps the negative hype around the Benoit situation is starting to show up in WWE's ratings. People could have been interested in WWE while the story was in their face, but now that it's going away so are they. It wouldn't be surprising if WWE does in fact lose fans after this.

Or then again, perhaps this was just an "off" week and the ratings will rebound next week. :shrug:
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