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Next Gen Console debate
Topic Started: Oct 17 2007, 07:29 PM (216 Views)
Purple Marauder
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OK, like some, I have yet to get a next gen console. I know we have had tons of threads about the specific brands, but I'm trying to bottom line it. I found this good review online.

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  Lisa Shea "LisaShea.com"     

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We got our hands on an XBox 360, a PS3, and a Wii on launch day. Each is good at specific tasks. Here is a fully unbiased review of how the PS3 performs as a next generation console unit.

To start with, the PS3, like the XBox 360, supports full high definition. The Wii only supports a lower resolution. Since the Wii has a much lower price tag, that is a fair trade-off for people with a tighter budget. Gamers for whom a very high level of graphic detail is important will have to pony up for that ability.

Along the same lines, the XBox 360 supports the HD format of high definition DVDs for movies, while the PS3 supports the Blu-ray format. If you haven't been following the whole format war for high definition DVDs, I have several articles on the topic on my gaming site. In short it's like the VHS/Beta wars when the VCR first came out. Is one better than the other? Will one format win out as the sole survivor? There's no way to tell. People will argue vehemently that one is better than the other. From a gaming point of view, the PS3 has the Blu-ray BUILT IN meaning every game can have 50 GIGS worth of game information. Think MASSIVELY huge maps, types of characters, etc. The XBox 360 only uses "regular" DVDs as its base game holder, which is 7 GIG. That is much smaller. You can buy an add-on HD DVD unit for about $100 but the storage is still smaller than Blu-ray - about 30 gig.

People will argue about graphics until they're blue :) A lot of this comes down to how a specific game company *uses* the ability of the system. Looking at graphics on a tetris-like game will be much different than viewing the graphics of Oblivion or Gears of War. I found 360 graphics amazing on Oblivion. I equally found the PS3 graphics quite impressive on Genji's cut scenes (no enemy crabs in sight). Since both are high definition, I think that both have the same potential in real life terms. Both really shine in terms of fluid motion, precise detail and realism. I've seen it on both systems, on certain games. I've also seen junky graphics on both systems. Both are much better than the Wii.

How about sound? All of these can plug into your stereo system. My boyfriend and I are both musicians. We have decibel meters and other sound-sensing tools. All three systems can create amazingly complex sounds, music, and in general a "gaming environment". Again I think it comes down to specific game makers, how they choose to use or not use that ability. It also comes down to how much you the gamer spent on your stereo system :)

Speaking of sound, I do have to comment that our 360 is quite loud when it runs, despite our many attempts to help it be quieter. The PS3 right out of the box is MUCH quieter. Score 1 point for the PS3.

On the general operating system for the units, all three consoles are going for more of a "general use entertainment system" presentation. The XBox has customizeable tabs that let you download new games, manage your environment and so on. The Wii also has channels that let you organize your gaming world. The PS3 has an interface almost exactly like that of the PSP, complete with cool drifting smoke waves in the background. You choose which area you want to work on - game, music, internet connection etc., and drop down to alter whatever feature you're interested in.

So on to the on-line aspect, which most gamers are now fully interested in. Where the XBox 360 makes you buy an external connector for wireless, the PS3 has that built-in on the 60 gig model. The 20 gig model still requires an external connector (these run about $100). All will let you plug in a cable if you're still running a wired household.

As a side comment on that, the XBox 360 has a 20 gig hard drive. However, they take up about 12 gig of that with their base system. So really you get 8 gig "free" for other things. Now, 8 gig might sound like a lot. But I still remember when the PS2 first came out and everyone was raving about the 8mb memory cards, how you could never possibly fill one of those up. We now have 8 memory cards and all are pretty much full. I have no doubt that 8 gig or even 20 gig is going to fill quickly. With the PS3 you at least do have that option for the 60 gig and it is really worth it. With the 360 your only option is to get an add-on drive to in essence back up the content you're not currently using and free up the main drive.

How does the online world work on the PS3? The XBox definitely has the advantage here. Until this generation, *only* the XBox had a thriving community in their live world. The XBox 360 connected right into that XBox Live world, and they boast a *huge* community of gamers who actively gain points, play online and form virtual worlds. The PS3 and Wii both have to play catch-up at this point. Even if they have better interfaces, it's a matter of converting over all those players who have clans, familiarity and high point collections on the XBox world. Imagine if a new MMORPG came out right now that had fantastic graphics. Sure it might be wonderful - but will you really get all 800 trillion WOW players to drop their world and characters and friends to convert, especially if it costs more? It'll be a hard, slow sell.

My summary? I definitely think all three have great games and that all three are worth owning. Of course I'm in a position that I *can* afford all three, which many people are not in. For example, I *love* the Zelda series, and I *love* the Final Fantasy series. I would be hard put to tell a person "you need to get Zelda instead of Final Fantasy". I would want the person to have both, because both are great for different reasons. If you really truly can only save up for one of the three consoles this holiday season, it isn't going to come down to which console is "best" for all players in some sort of a global way. It is going to come down to which console is best for YOU based on your specific gaming style.

If you're on a really tight budget and just want something better than the previous generation, go for a Wii. It's cheap, the graphics are better, and the remotes are great fun. It has Zelda :) If you have a larger budget and really want the high definition, you're now choosing between the 360 and the PS3. You really do have to look at the specifics of each, and think seriously about your gaming style, to see which matches you best. If I were to make a flip summarization, if you really love online gameplay, I'd go with the XBox 360. Its years of head-start really give it a robust environment here. If you are looking for more of a home-based media center for your MPs3, photos and huge world gameplay, I'd go with the PS3. It definitely has the advantage on large scale games.



So according to the reviewer, basically, if you just want a new fun system, get the Wii. If you are into better graphics and want to step up, its the X-Box 360 vs the PS3. If you are into online gaming your choice is the 360. If you want a home based console, it's the PS3.

Do you guys agree with that? For those that have one or more of these systems, bottom line it for me. What do you think about them? What do you like or hate about them?
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Kraul

I have a 360 and easy access to a Wii.

For me, the 360 is potentially the best system in terms of gaming yet.

I really don't care about all the extra stuff that usually a computer does because, well, I have a computer for all of that. And I really don't care about Blu-Ray nor do I see the point in it unless you're a technophile. And seeing that those two things are basically what people keep promoting with the PS3, despite that it should be a gaming system first, I have no interest in the console.

The 360 has a fantastic layout, easily accessible online play, good customizability, some very good games, very good graphics (which aren't the most important thing, I think), e.t.c.

Plus the 360 isn't being promoted by jackasses like Sony who would better serve their product by not saying anything at all.

The Wii can be fun, but I find it ultimately boring. I felt it was too gimmicky before it was released and I still do. To me, the concept just gets old fast. Not to mention the controller seems to steadily drain batteries (while I've had to change my 360 batteries for the first time in a month or more despite many hours of play).

The system really is a family system, so it's not really the system of choice if you prefer darker or more violent games - unless you prefer the violence being tamed down and perfromed by an italian plumber.

The 360 basically has almost all of the best games out of the PS3 or 360's library. Many of the games that are awesome for the PS3 or will be awesome are available for the 360 and many are only available for the 360. The only three game titles that ever stick out in my mind that I wish the 360 had are Tekken, Metal Gear Solid, and God of War. Everything else is forgettable or already available for the 360.

With the 360 and the Wii, Microsoft and Nintendo seem to let the console sell itself. Meanwhile, Sony is practically begging people to buy the PS3 by making all sorts of promises and bold claims that may all amount to little or nothing in five years.
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I want them all, to be honest. I grew up with Nintendo, but that doesn't make me a fanboy, I'm a fan of all the gaming consoles. Though, if I had to pick one, I would go with the 360 since it's geared to more online gaming, which is essential here in college. Wii would be a close second, since it has a few one player games I'm dying to play. PS3 doesn't have a strong library for my taste just yet.
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I'm still waiting and I'll tell you why.

I don't play online. Not a fan of it. So, I don't need that feature. I have a lot of PS2 and PS1 games. My debate is between the PS3 and 360. But, with all new consoles, it's always the 2nd run of the game that is better than the first. For example, SD! on PS2 sucked. Then, the 2nd edition was a lot better. So, I am waiting, not only on another price break that usually comes after tax season in April, but also for the PS3 library to grow.

I don't have to be the 1st to get the new hot gadget, so I don't mind waiting. I guess right now, the 360 has a better library, but I wonder if, in the long run, the PS3 will be a better system for me to buy?
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Purplemarauder
Oct 18 2007, 08:55 AM
I guess right now, the 360 has a better library, but I wonder if, in the long run, the PS3 will be a better system for me to buy?

That will probably depend on whether or not Sony will decide to put out more than a handful of great exclusive titles rather than boast about how powerful their system is.
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