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Todays Featured Article - The Montreal Screwjob
Topic Started: Nov 9 2007, 06:10 AM (293 Views)
Nubochanozep
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page

Oh my yes. It's as important now as it ever was (btw, for those clicking after today, it's probably not going to make much sense).
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TheObserver

How ironic, I just saw this.

It was pretty shitty which ultimately turned McMahon into being this evil character that people perceive him to be.

Lots of stories have been told, basically a he said she said ordeal and I remember posting what went on from Harts view a couple years back.

To bad, I don't remember where it is.

I do know that Hart was so pissed to the point that he whinded up punching Vince off camera.

Don't remember when it was that he wrote with his hands in the air (if that makes sense) "WCW" for everyone to see that he was about to make the jump.

Just a little FYI which so of you may or may not remember me posting but when the NWO first started, Hogan wasn't the choice to be the 3rd guy, it was Hart.

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Nubochanozep
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As in, Bischoff or whoever actually wanted Hart to be the other guy, and not Hogan?
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Kraul

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Nov 9 2007, 08:53 AM
Don't remember when it was that he wrote with his hands in the air (if that makes sense) "WCW" for everyone to see that he was about to make the jump.

It was during his tantrum at Survivor Series right after the incident.

They showed it on Wrestling With Shadows (I have that recorded somewhere. I really gotta watch it again).
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Nubochanozep
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They also show it on the WWE Desire filmclip
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Jimmy C
Nov 9 2007, 08:44 PM
As in, Bischoff or whoever actually wanted Hart to be the other guy, and not Hogan?

Yep. :yes:
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Well it still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, and a ton of others aswell. It was because I thought they took away the greatest wrestler of all time. But when I REALLY think about it. He was going to go to WCW either way. Where he would be used horribly, and ultimatly get kicked in the head and eventually have a stroke. But apart of me thinks that if Vince didn't end things the way he did, after Bret got fed up with WCW, he would have came back to WWE before it was too late. And he would still be having classic matches to this date. Owell, the past is the past and Shawn Micheals is a chicken shit bitch. Amen.
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MY85
It's a fabulous new day, yes it is!
As a whole, I think Michaels is superior than Hart.
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MakeYourself85
Nov 12 2007, 01:08 AM
As a whole, I think Michaels is superior than Hart.

Yeah well your word doesn't carry much weight, given the fact that every time you give an opinion on wrestling is doesn't make sense. Here is some unofficial quotes.

"Raw was meh"

"That match was kinda meh"

"I think Randy Orton has improved only a meh"

"The match was ok, whatever"

You speak like a 5 year old with ADD. So guess what. What you say means so little to the earth that it's almost as if you didn't even say it. So in conclusion to today's lesson. Your opinion is meh, mkay pumpkin.
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STAY HYPED!!!
I too think HBK was superior to Hart overall. :shrug:
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Well at least you have provided evidence to your claims in the past. Even though you failed to do so here. I will assume you will get to it eventually.
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I had no intentions since I thought we were just sharing random opinions to a loosely related topic, but if you'd like I can explain my reason:

Bret Hart was a very good ring general and is one of the best of all times. He had about as good of a connection as any wrestler will ever have with his fans. He was dependable and reliable. By that I mean that as a fan, you knew that when Bret Hart was coming out then you'd be getting your entertainments worth. However, Bret was somewhat one dimensional in the fact that his ring skills were pretty much all he brought to the dance. He was not one of the top mic guys. He was pretty mundane on the mic, truthfully. And while his basic wrestling skills were excellent, he didn't offer a variety. It was basic wrestling skills every match. There were very good matches that came out of his formula, and I even think that the greatest match of all time included Bret Hart (the greatest match of all time would be Bret Hart vs Steve Austin from WM13, by and by), but still it was the basic thing over and over.

HBK, on the other hand, also had (and still has) a very strong connection with the fans, was (and still is) stellar in the ring. However, unlike Bret, HBK has stronger mic skills and offered a variety in match types. Now, compared to today's performers, HBK isn't much of a high flyer. But HBK pretty much introduced the world to highflying performers. He was jumping off the top ropes and using ladders before the term "Hardy" meant anything other than mystery book. But HBK wasn't (and isn't) just about the flash. He has the substance to go along with it. He's more rounded in the ring. He can do the basic wrestling, he can do the pretty "holy shit" moves, and he's better on the mic. Both are two of the greatest of all times, but HBK is/was the superior performer.
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Jimmy15
 
You speak like a 5 year old with ADD. So guess what. What you say means so little to the earth that it's almost as if you didn't even say it. So in conclusion to today's lesson. Your opinion is meh, mkay pumpkin.


ad hominem arguments generally don't work well if they're the sole way that you're trying to disprove something. In the future, look to actually debunk the theory that MY85 offered (which shouldn't be too hard initially, seeing as how he offered zero evidence) instead of just attacking the author. D
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Jimmy C
Nov 12 2007, 03:16 AM
Jimmy15
 
You speak like a 5 year old with ADD. So guess what. What you say means so little to the earth that it's almost as if you didn't even say it. So in conclusion to today's lesson. Your opinion is meh, mkay pumpkin.


ad hominem arguments generally don't work well if they're the sole way that you're trying to disprove something. In the future, look to actually debunk the theory that MY85 offered (which shouldn't be too hard initially, seeing as how he offered zero evidence) instead of just attacking the author. D

Wasn't in the mood. Do ya mind?
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