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Aries a Loser; ROH
Topic Started: Nov 20 2007, 02:06 PM (448 Views)
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Austin Aries why is he getting such a push it boggles my mind, I mean yes hes a good wrestler but his talking and charisma level is nothing compared to others in ROH. Now ROH just had a best out of three series between Bryan Danielson and Aries for the number contendership for the ROH title at ROH's 5th PPV.

In Boston Aries got the win making Danielson tap out, then in San Fransico Danielson beat him with cattle mutalation for the victory. The series was nodded up at one a piece and set to have the rubber match in Philadelphia (I was there). As I was watching the match live screaming my ass off for Bryan Danielson and saw Austin Aries get the victory it shocked me very much.

Aries is nothing but a loser, why is ROH having main event the 5th PPV. So what if he can wrestle a bit, hes a joke in the wrestling worlds mind. Look what happen when he went to TNA he was nothing but a joke and now a joke in TNA is going to main event your 5th PPV that makes no sense. Your trying to bring in new fans and they go whos the mainevent and you say Nigel vs Austin Aries and they go whos Aries and you say that joke Austin Starr from TNA that will turn off so many new comers so fast. Why is TNA joke main eventing and getting this push where he can't lose it makes your whole company look bad including your ace Bryan Danielson.

Bryan Danielson is by the far the best in ROH and by far the fan favorite, but the one thing Danielson needs is the ROH belt thats when the fans started to love him when he got the belt. Now that Danielson doesn't have the belt and didn't win it when he came back which many thought he would I am scared because of a bum like Austin Aries my boy danielson is going to get lost in the mix.
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I really don't know where to begin with so much that is wring with your post. Let's do the easy one first:

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The series was nodded up at one ..


"The series was knotted up at one..." :tu:

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, I mean yes hes a good wrestler but his talking and charisma level is nothing compared to others in ROH.


Wrong. He is just as charismatic and has just as good mic skills as most of the RoH roster. That's one reason he gets the pushes he gets. That and the fact that he is phenomenal in the ring.

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Aries is nothing but a loser, why is ROH having main event the 5th PPV. So what if he can wrestle a bit, hes a joke in the wrestling worlds mind. Look what happen when he went to TNA he was nothing but a joke and now a joke in TNA is going to main event your 5th PPV that makes no sense. Your trying to bring in new fans and they go who's the main-event and you say Nigel vs Austin Aries and they go who's Aries and you say that joke Austin Starr from TNA that will turn off so many new comers so fast. Why is TNA joke main eventing and getting this push where he can't lose it makes your whole company look bad including your ace Bryan Danielson.


Aries is far from a loser. Why he is not a loser and why he is main eventing the next PPV is the same. He was RoH world champion and a Main Eventer in the company. Every time he is in the ring, he puts on a great match for the company.

In the "wrestling World" he is a joke? What world is that? If you are talking about the actual wrestlers, no one thinks that. Why would they? If you are talking about fans, no one but you thinks that. He is a joke because TNA gave him a bad gimmick and never pushed him? If that made you a joke, them 99% of wrestlers would be a joke. Remember Johnny Polo? Remember Rocky Miavia? Remember The Ring Master? Remember The Mighty Oz?

And, trying to bring in new fans to RoH and you think no one knows Aries? No new fan knows anyone in RoH. Bryan Danielson is the big guy in RoH history, but outside of the company, the new fan doesn't know him. They don't know Nigel either and he is the World champion. What Aries did in TNA has little to do with what he does in RoH. Homicide was RoH World champion. In TNA he's a tag team guy. Besides, RoH fans are suppose to be "smarts". They "know" what the "truth" was about Aries in TNA.

Austin will not turn off a new fan. RoH is about awesome matches and he will always give you an awesome match. Most people that saw him in TNA will probably think..."Why the hell didn't he get the chance to do this in TNA?". This is the same type of excuse that people try to use when TNA signs a WWE guy and it's still a stupid comment.

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Bryan Danielson is by the far the best in ROH and by far the fan favorite, but the one thing Danielson needs is the ROH belt that's when the fans started to love him when he got the belt. Now that Danielson doesn't have the belt and didn't win it when he came back which many thought he would I am scared because of a bum like Austin Aries my boy Danielson is going to get lost in the mix.


And this paragraph shows what your problem is. You are a Danielson mark and he got beat. You can't stand it. Your guy lost. Daniels doesn't need the world title because he is the most over guy in the company. If, and that's a big if, Austin won the title, a feud with Danielson over the belt would be money. Nigel, however, has a lot to say about that. Also, you have to build your World champ into a credible champion by having him beat top contenders. If they want Danielson to be the next champion, Nigel needs to have an impressive resume before they wrestle for the title. They aren't rushing that.

The wrestling world knows that.
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Nov 20 2007, 09:06 AM
Your trying to bring in new fans and they go whos the mainevent and you say Nigel vs Austin Aries and they go whos Aries and you say that joke Austin Starr from TNA that will turn off so many new comers so fast. Why is TNA joke main eventing and getting this push where he can't lose it makes your whole company look bad including your ace Bryan Danielson.

I've never seen a single ROH show (don't have access). The names Nigel and Danielson mean nothing to me. I've never seen them. I don't know what they can do. I know nothing about them. Therefore, they are nothing to me. They may very well be excellent at their craft, but I am just not familiar with them. If you are trying to get me to watch ROH, saying the names Danielson and Nigel will not peak my interest. I may eventually tune in because I like wrestling and would want to see what the company's about, but it wouldn't be because of those names.

I am, however, familiar with the name Austin Aries/Austin Starr. TNA may not have pushed him as anything but a Macho Man wannabe and the first Black Machismo experiment, but I know his name. I know his face. I've seen him wrestle. I've seen him work. I'd be interest in seeing him wrestle again. That would hook me.

That's what most casual fans want: something they are familiar with to introduce them to something entirely new. ROH fans, by and large, seem like they are better than casual fans. Like they don't want casual fans around. Like you have to be a "smart fan" to fit in. It's almost like an aura of exclusivity. That, to me, is more of a turn off than someone that may be considered a mid card wrestler being pushed as the main event of the company. :shrug:
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Looks like Aries is turning out to be the 2007 John Cena.
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If Aries becomes the John Cena of 2007, wwe will have money coming out of there ass.
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Nov 20 2007, 12:25 PM
Looks like Aries is turning out to be the 2007 John Cena.

How in the hell do you see that? :???:
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Nov 20 2007, 02:23 PM
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Nov 20 2007, 12:25 PM
Looks like Aries is turning out to be the 2007 John Cena.

How in the hell do you see that? :???:

I think the comparison being made here is that the :quote: ROH fans :quote: (and by ROH fans, I mean TOAL) are turning on him because he beat one of their favourites or something to that affect I guess. :shrug:
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The thing is, Austin Aries is one of the most popular guys in RoH. No one is turning on him. TOAL is just upset that Danielson lost to him.
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I like Austin Aries, but I am in basically in love with Bryan Danielson. But I don't like that the joke of tna beat ROH's ace. I also feel theres a lot of guys better then Aries on the roster like Nigel,Danielson,Hero,Claudio,Strong,Briscoes,Steen and Generico,Albright then Aries comes along
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Wasn't Aries "the man" of ROH before he went to TNA? I'm sure I remember a lot of people talking him up before he even came to TNA.
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You clearly underestimate Aries and over estimate the RoH guys listed.

Bryan Danielson is the top guy in the comapnay and he and Aries will always put on excellent matches because they are both that good in the ring. I'm a huge mark for Danielson and Nigel. I though Nigel should have been champ a long time ago. Nigel, Bryan and the Briscoes are all on the same plain that Aries also occupies.

Chris Hero is good, but he is also the hot new flavor in RoH. Everyone else you listed is just not as good as Austin Aries. Albright wrestles a different style, true, but I'll take Austin Aries over every other guy on your list.

I think you would be ranting and hating on any guy that shattered your dreams of seeing Danielson win at that show you went to. Step back and look at the man. You know he is good and deserving of the match at the ppv. He wasn't TNA's joke. He is the former RoH world champion. And who did he beat to win that? Oh, yeah...Samoa Joe. He ended his 21 month title reign. WHo did Danielson beat to win his? James Gibson...
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Nov 20 2007, 12:05 PM
ROH fans, by and large, seem like they are better than casual fans. Like they don't want casual fans around. Like you have to be a "smart fan" to fit in. It's almost like an aura of exclusivity.  That, to me, is more of a turn off than someone that may be considered a mid card wrestler being pushed as the main event of the company. :shrug:

The exclusivity aura was my biggest problem with Ring Of Honor. I had the chance to watch some of their matches and they're actually pretty good. But their fans annoy me at times. They just regard every other wrestling company as shit and ROH as the best. ROH has very good wrestling, but they're far away from being the best wrestling company. Actually, neither TNA, WWE or ROH strikes me as the best company. :shrug:
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Hey not all ROH fans hate the WWE, I love the WWE just ROH more since its more wrestling.
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There in no way in hell Aries and loser should be in the same sentence.

His Wrestling Machine dvd says it all and was the first time it was noted as someone being one before the term was brought up with Angle.
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Nov 20 2007, 02:23 PM
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Nov 20 2007, 12:25 PM
Looks like Aries is turning out to be the 2007 John Cena.

How in the hell do you see that? :???:

He obviously didn't read one post in this fucking thread, nor has he ever watched a fucking minute of Ring of Honor. :tu:
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Nov 20 2007, 08:32 PM
Hey not all ROH fans hate the WWE, I love the WWE just ROH more since its more wrestling.

I love RoH's stuff. I got 8 dvds(2 free) for X-mas. Hopefully I can order Man-Up on ppv, granted I'll get the dvd if the AofT angle is in it.

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There in no way in hell Aries and loser should be in the same sentence.

His Wrestling Machine dvd says it all and was the first time it was noted as someone being one before the term was brought up with Angle.


Aries is pretty good, right now besides Nigel and Danielson, I say he is a top draw. He isa great wrestler but much like many RoH guys, they don't show the charisma you see on say a WWE or TNA show. Off-topic alert, I do think the most charasmatic guys in RoH are Claudio, Hero and Jacobs.
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Nov 21 2007, 03:41 AM
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There in no way in hell Aries and loser should be in the same sentence.

His Wrestling Machine dvd says it all and was the first time it was noted as someone being one before the term was brought up with Angle.


Aries is pretty good, right now besides Nigel and Danielson, I say he is a top draw. He isa great wrestler but much like many RoH guys, they don't show the charisma you see on say a WWE or TNA show. Off-topic alert, I do think the most charasmatic guys in RoH are Claudio, Hero and Jacobs.

I think he's good on the mic, maybe not the best but is better than some in those two companies.

Looking mostly at the WWE one, it's safe to say he's better than most of the ones on all three rosters.

There's maybe a handful that are good in WWE on all the rosters.
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There in no way in hell Aries and loser should be in the same sentence.

His Wrestling Machine dvd says it all and was the first time it was noted as someone being one before the term was brought up with Angle.


Aries is pretty good, right now besides Nigel and Danielson, I say he is a top draw. He isa great wrestler but much like many RoH guys, they don't show the charisma you see on say a WWE or TNA show. Off-topic alert, I do think the most charasmatic guys in RoH are Claudio, Hero and Jacobs.

I think he's good on the mic, maybe not the best but is better than some in those two companies.

:cough: :cough Randy Orton
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Just to name a few from the Raw roster along with him, I'll say who should stay away from the mic is both Lashley and Jeff Hardy.
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As well as Morrison, he is a total bore on the mic. I actually like Miz besides besides being annoying.
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Yeah I don't care much for either myself. :no:
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I can see The Miz as a the WWE's answer to "Sweet n Sour" Larry Sweeney.
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Never compare Larry Sweeney and the Miz. Sweet and Sour are on a whole never level.
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Nov 22 2007, 11:11 AM
I can see The Miz as a the WWE's answer to "Sweet n Sour" Larry Sweeney.

How so?
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Maybe I didn't think things through because I was going by something said in a PWInsider hotline.
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Nov 20 2007, 03:06 PM
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Nov 20 2007, 12:05 PM
ROH fans, by and large, seem like they are better than casual fans. Like they don't want casual fans around. Like you have to be a "smart fan" to fit in. It's almost like an aura of exclusivity.  That, to me, is more of a turn off than someone that may be considered a mid card wrestler being pushed as the main event of the company. :shrug:

The exclusivity aura was my biggest problem with Ring Of Honor. I had the chance to watch some of their matches and they're actually pretty good. But their fans annoy me at times. They just regard every other wrestling company as shit and ROH as the best. ROH has very good wrestling, but they're far away from being the best wrestling company. Actually, neither TNA, WWE or ROH strikes me as the best company. :shrug:

it's any wonder that ROH fans have been called ROHbots.
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RoH fans suck but I don't watch that promotion for the fans, I watch it for the matches...
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