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| Topic Started: Feb 29 2008, 06:44 PM (1,224 Views) | |
| Legacy | Mar 1 2008, 01:24 AM Post #31 |
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Wtf is this? Is Vince on crack? I wonder if TNA will advertise WWE on their site.
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| Nubochanozep | Mar 1 2008, 01:28 AM Post #32 |
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Good move by the WWE. If they can lure the people away from the independant websites then it's all good for the WWE. Frankly, with 30 replies in less than 24 hours for something like this, I think they're on to a winning formula. |
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| Purple Marauder | Mar 1 2008, 02:14 AM Post #33 |
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Stand Back! There's a Hurricane Coming Through
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Yeah, but it's mostly "WTF?". I doubt that the traffic will pick up any more or less when it comes to finding out wrestling "news". Most of your net people already have their own favorite sites for that. Plus all these sites look at each other and report what the others are reporting... |
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| MY85 | Mar 1 2008, 10:36 PM Post #34 |
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It's a fabulous new day, yes it is!
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It would be kinda funny to see the faces of the TNA and ROH people regarding this move... |
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| Nubochanozep | Mar 2 2008, 02:12 AM Post #35 |
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They'll be scared faces. |
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| 15 Shows | Mar 2 2008, 04:21 AM Post #36 |
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Aint cheatin aint tryin
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Maybe Vince is trying to butter them up, so that when he comes to them with a big check, there pride won't get in the way. Vince is planning to buy the wrestling world!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Nubochanozep | Mar 2 2008, 07:34 AM Post #37 |
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| Cybrus | Mar 2 2008, 10:41 AM Post #38 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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We've already seen Vince buy the wrestling world. I think even he can set his ego aside and realize how much harm it does to the industry when there is no competition. I'm not saying he's trying to build another company up to run with him, but WWE did pick many of their performers out of other promotions. They haven't had too much luck out of training guys from scratch and turning them into stars.
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| Nubochanozep | Mar 2 2008, 10:50 AM Post #39 |
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They've had a tonne of success in that department, unless you consider the indy matches wrestlers have for a year before they enter the mainstream to disqualify them from that. |
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| Cybrus | Mar 2 2008, 11:11 AM Post #40 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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Really? I must be over looking names then, because I don't see many wrestlers that they've trained and turned star on their own. Orton is really the only name I can think of. All the other names they signed from the independents and sent to OVW (or any other farm league) before calling them up. And even then, the success stories aren't as good as the success stories they had when it came to getting underutilized guys from other companies and turning them stars. |
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| WWEFootos48 | Mar 2 2008, 11:42 AM Post #41 |
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How about The Rock? John Cena? Batista? Anyway, every company has to have an idea of how to use guys to their advantage. What WWE does is that if they know they can become big, they usually just let them form their own paths. Austin is an example of this. I really don't think it matters if most of their stars haven't been brought up through the indy scene, as long as they can make big stars out of someone. |
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| Cybrus | Mar 2 2008, 12:33 PM Post #42 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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Batista and John Cena are both signees from the independent circuit though. Cena was known as "The Prototype" on the indy circuit. I've seen a documentary on the Documentary channel about indy wrestling, and Cena was shown as "The Protype". His gimmick was that of a human robot or something. The funny thing is, this was shown before Cena came to WWE (I think he was still in their farm leagues or had just debuted, maybe). The documentary actually shows a WWE scout at one if the shows and the rumor was they were there to scout Cena. Then before you know it, Cena is in WWE. And Batista was known as Leviathan in the indy circuit. I don't have a cool anecdote to tell about him. But you guys are missing my point. My point is that WWE relied for many (many many) years on getting their talent from other companies. Taking a guy that another company couldn't make a star and turning them into stars himself was something that Vince took great pride in. He hasn't had that chance since he bought his competition. He's had to try to create stars from the ground up. I'm thinking he'd like that one back. And, of course, this is merely speculation much the same as all the other speculatories posted in this thread.
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| Kame | Mar 2 2008, 12:54 PM Post #43 |
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It's not Vince's doing, it's Michael Cole's, as he runs the WWE website. Vince probably had to approve it before Cole put the section up, though. |
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| WWEFootos48 | Mar 2 2008, 01:14 PM Post #44 |
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For that point, what star isn't, though? Just about any star from WWE or TNA, or even ROH came from smaller indy companies. That's where most wrestlers come up from. I see what you're saying now, and I guess Orton and The Rock would be the only two exceptions to the rule, but unless your family is already part of the business, it's hard just to come up with one company unless you win Tough Enough or something. But back to the main point, I think what Vince did was absolutely smart for that many years. He was a really smart promoter and saw an opportunity countless time to make somebody out of nobody, (like Austin or "Mean" Mark Callius a.k.a. The Undertaker) and did what he had to do to stay afloat. So I think from TNA's standpoint, if they aren't using somebody to their full potential and Vince sees that, I think he has the full right to do just that. Of course you're arguing that Vince wants TNA, for example, to stay up for that reason, and I think that is partially why as well. Well, I guess we'll see what he does with Killings.
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| 15 Shows | Mar 2 2008, 04:53 PM Post #45 |
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Aint cheatin aint tryin
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I would like it if Vince and TNA went into buisness together and ran interpromotional shows together on occasion. But we can all dream. |
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| Nubochanozep | Mar 3 2008, 08:47 AM Post #46 |
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I would offer my own response but WWEWL intruded into the debate before I could answer, and he said exactly what I was gonna say, so yeah, see what eh wrote.
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| Cybrus | Mar 3 2008, 01:47 PM Post #47 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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I'm not reading anything that disagrees with my opinion though. WWE can train guys from the ground up, but it requires more time, more patients, and more failed projects than if they take underutilized talent from other companies and build them.
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| TheObserver | Mar 4 2008, 07:59 PM Post #48 |
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I must've overlooked it but they also ROH?
RFAD is a crazy ass movie. Haven't watched it in a bit so I might have to later on.
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| WWEFootos48 | Mar 4 2008, 10:49 PM Post #49 |
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I guess Stellar's argument about Vince hating Meltzer is kind of null in void now, since there is a news piece citing the Wrestling Observer Newsletter... |
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| Kraul | Mar 4 2008, 10:53 PM Post #50 |
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Vince probably doesn't see or hear about every tiny thing that goes on WWE.com. He probably barely knows anything about the site. |
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| 15 Shows | Mar 4 2008, 11:31 PM Post #51 |
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Aint cheatin aint tryin
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Yeah right. You obviously don't know just how involved Vince is. |
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| _DL_ | Mar 13 2008, 11:48 PM Post #52 |
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BURN IT DOOOWWNNNNNNNN!
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Good thing the last paragraph didn't take place. |
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| Kraul | Mar 13 2008, 11:51 PM Post #53 |
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With all the criticism FOX News gets for that kind of stuff, he actually thought it would be a good idea to do the same for WWE and wrestling news?I just can't see how. Why would you want to put that bad of a taste in the reader's mouthes unless you're trying to turn them off of reading dirt sheets altoget...hmm. |
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| WWEFootos48 | Mar 19 2008, 08:42 PM Post #54 |
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The one thing I'm not liking about this so far is the wording and how they present some of their own news. Like a few days ago I read an article saying something like "according to [this new site], WWE has began work at the Orange Bowl to prepare for WrestleMania." According to a third party site? They're the damn company that's preparing it! They should be the ones reporting it first-hand!
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