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WWE Gets Dirty
Topic Started: Feb 29 2008, 06:44 PM (1,224 Views)
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Wtf is this? Is Vince on crack? I wonder if TNA will advertise WWE on their site. :-/
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Nubochanozep
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Good move by the WWE. If they can lure the people away from the independant websites then it's all good for the WWE. Frankly, with 30 replies in less than 24 hours for something like this, I think they're on to a winning formula.
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Purple Marauder
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Yeah, but it's mostly "WTF?". I doubt that the traffic will pick up any more or less when it comes to finding out wrestling "news". Most of your net people already have their own favorite sites for that. Plus all these sites look at each other and report what the others are reporting...
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MY85
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A number of people in both Ring of Honor and TNA Wrestling are as baffled as anyone else about the official WWE website including news on their promotions. No one is complaining but everyone that I have spoken with has said it is a very weird move by WWE.

It would be kinda funny to see the faces of the TNA and ROH people regarding this move...
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Nubochanozep
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They'll be scared faces.
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Maybe Vince is trying to butter them up, so that when he comes to them with a big check, there pride won't get in the way. Vince is planning to buy the wrestling world!!!!!!!!!!
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Nubochanozep
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...again!
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Cybrus
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STAY HYPED!!!
We've already seen Vince buy the wrestling world. I think even he can set his ego aside and realize how much harm it does to the industry when there is no competition. I'm not saying he's trying to build another company up to run with him, but WWE did pick many of their performers out of other promotions. They haven't had too much luck out of training guys from scratch and turning them into stars. :shrug:
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Nubochanozep
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They've had a tonne of success in that department, unless you consider the indy matches wrestlers have for a year before they enter the mainstream to disqualify them from that.
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Cybrus
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Really? I must be over looking names then, because I don't see many wrestlers that they've trained and turned star on their own. Orton is really the only name I can think of. All the other names they signed from the independents and sent to OVW (or any other farm league) before calling them up. And even then, the success stories aren't as good as the success stories they had when it came to getting underutilized guys from other companies and turning them stars.
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How about The Rock? John Cena? Batista?

Anyway, every company has to have an idea of how to use guys to their advantage. What WWE does is that if they know they can become big, they usually just let them form their own paths. Austin is an example of this. I really don't think it matters if most of their stars haven't been brought up through the indy scene, as long as they can make big stars out of someone.
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STAY HYPED!!!
Batista and John Cena are both signees from the independent circuit though. Cena was known as "The Prototype" on the indy circuit. I've seen a documentary on the Documentary channel about indy wrestling, and Cena was shown as "The Protype". His gimmick was that of a human robot or something. The funny thing is, this was shown before Cena came to WWE (I think he was still in their farm leagues or had just debuted, maybe). The documentary actually shows a WWE scout at one if the shows and the rumor was they were there to scout Cena. Then before you know it, Cena is in WWE. And Batista was known as Leviathan in the indy circuit. I don't have a cool anecdote to tell about him.

But you guys are missing my point. My point is that WWE relied for many (many many) years on getting their talent from other companies. Taking a guy that another company couldn't make a star and turning them into stars himself was something that Vince took great pride in. He hasn't had that chance since he bought his competition. He's had to try to create stars from the ground up. I'm thinking he'd like that one back.

And, of course, this is merely speculation much the same as all the other speculatories posted in this thread. :tu:
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Kame

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Feb 29 2008, 08:24 PM
Wtf is this? Is Vince on crack?

It's not Vince's doing, it's Michael Cole's, as he runs the WWE website. Vince probably had to approve it before Cole put the section up, though.
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Mar 2 2008, 07:33 AM
Batista and John Cena are both signees from the independent circuit though.

For that point, what star isn't, though? Just about any star from WWE or TNA, or even ROH came from smaller indy companies. That's where most wrestlers come up from. I see what you're saying now, and I guess Orton and The Rock would be the only two exceptions to the rule, but unless your family is already part of the business, it's hard just to come up with one company unless you win Tough Enough or something.

But back to the main point, I think what Vince did was absolutely smart for that many years. He was a really smart promoter and saw an opportunity countless time to make somebody out of nobody, (like Austin or "Mean" Mark Callius a.k.a. The Undertaker) and did what he had to do to stay afloat. So I think from TNA's standpoint, if they aren't using somebody to their full potential and Vince sees that, I think he has the full right to do just that. Of course you're arguing that Vince wants TNA, for example, to stay up for that reason, and I think that is partially why as well. Well, I guess we'll see what he does with Killings. :lol:
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I would like it if Vince and TNA went into buisness together and ran interpromotional shows together on occasion. But we can all dream.
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I would offer my own response but WWEWL intruded into the debate before I could answer, and he said exactly what I was gonna say, so yeah, see what eh wrote. :lol:
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I'm not reading anything that disagrees with my opinion though. WWE can train guys from the ground up, but it requires more time, more patients, and more failed projects than if they take underutilized talent from other companies and build them. :shrug:
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TheObserver

I must've overlooked it but they also ROH?

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In a March 2 article on Wrestling Observer, the Ring of Honor show scheduled for March 14 in Dover, N.J., will not just be a wrestling show. According to the site, crews will be filming scenes for the upcoming movie The Wrestler, starring Mickey Rourke as a retired wrestler named Randy “The Ram” Robinson. The film will be directed by Darren Aronofsky, who directed 2000’s Requiem for a Dream. The film is scheduled for a 2009 release.


RFAD is a crazy ass movie. Haven't watched it in a bit so I might have to later on.

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When reached for comment on WWE.com reporting Ring of Honor news, Ring of Honor Head Booker Gabe Sapolsky said, “It's great. Thanks for the plug WWE!”
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I guess Stellar's argument about Vince hating Meltzer is kind of null in void now, since there is a news piece citing the Wrestling Observer Newsletter...
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Kraul

Vince probably doesn't see or hear about every tiny thing that goes on WWE.com. He probably barely knows anything about the site.
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Kraul
Mar 4 2008, 04:53 PM
Vince probably doesn't see or hear about every tiny thing that goes on WWE.com. He probably barely knows anything about the site.

Yeah right. You obviously don't know just how involved Vince is.
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As you would imagine, the newly launched "Industry News" section on WWE.com has shocked a lot of people. The decision to launch the section was made by Vince McMahon.

Michael Cole was replaced as the top guy running WWE.com because McMahon was disappointed with the types of stories being posted on the site, not to mention the decline in unique visitors (traffic to WWE.com has dropped with each passing quarter since WrestleMania 23). A while back, they adopted a new, or old approach, by generally doing stories like if they came from a 1980s wrestling magazine by keeping kayfabe and acting like the storylines are real. This came to be due to Stephanie McMahon & Triple H; more Triple H from talking with older wrestlers who insist the business being exposed is its downfall.

A new editor for the website has since been hired. He suggested a few "wacky" ideas, but McMahon nixed pretty much all of them. However, McMahon suddenly got one of his impulse reactions and said that he wanted WWE.com to become the destination point for every wrestling fan who wanted real wrestling news. He had the idea in the past, but always changed his mind on it before pulling the trigger. McMahon described that he wanted WWE.com to be similar to the Drudge Report and Daily Variety.

One person was hired to be in charge of the "Industry News" section. The person is said to be a very casual wrestling fan who is a fish out of water in the position. They're paying him to surf wrestling news websites and pick out stories to post on WWE.com. The stories this person picks have to be screened by the creative team so that the wrong thing is not posted.

McMahon said he wanted news on rival promotions such as TNA, and even obscure indy leagues. He said the section won't work unless fans see it as "credible news."

At first, McMahon wanted absolutely nothing posted or credited to the Wrestling Observer or PWInsider.com, however, he quickly changed his stance on the two entities and news items from the two have since been posted on WWE.com.

The new feature is said to be a constantly evolving process. Also, some people believe that McMahon will change his mind on the section sooner or later.

For a number of years, Shane McMahon was lobbying the idea, but as a premium on a subscription portion of the site. However, Stephanie shot the idea down. Shane's idea wasn't to credit websites, but for WWE to create the news and be competition for all the other websites. He believed with WWE's greater resources and access to all the key news, everyone would go to WWE for the news, and they would eventually control all the industry news. Shane's vision was said to be similar to how the Fox News Channel reports news in a sense that it would be news, but skewed toward their viewpoint.


Good thing the last paragraph didn't take place.
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Shane's vision was said to be similar to how the Fox News Channel reports news in a sense that it would be news, but skewed toward their viewpoint.


:-/ With all the criticism FOX News gets for that kind of stuff, he actually thought it would be a good idea to do the same for WWE and wrestling news?

I just can't see how. Why would you want to put that bad of a taste in the reader's mouthes unless you're trying to turn them off of reading dirt sheets altoget...hmm.
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The one thing I'm not liking about this so far is the wording and how they present some of their own news. Like a few days ago I read an article saying something like "according to [this new site], WWE has began work at the Orange Bowl to prepare for WrestleMania." According to a third party site? They're the damn company that's preparing it! They should be the ones reporting it first-hand! :lol:
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