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Why Triple H was handed the World Title
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Topic Started: Apr 4 2008, 04:46 AM (232 Views)
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Apr 4 2008, 04:46 AM
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Seth Mates is a former member of the WWE creative team. He has an editorial page at newsday.com where he explains why WWE did some of the things they did when he was a part of the creative team. In the entry I am about to share he explains why Triple H was handed the World Title back in 2002.
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By the time I joined the creative team in July 2002, they already kinda knew that having one world title that went back and forth between the two shows wasn't working. There had been some hesitation to splitting the titles, more out of tradition than anything else I think. But as we developed the Stephanie/Bischoff general manager thing and really started giving each show its own identity and feel, we debated it and finally resolved that for the longterm success of the brand extension, it was probably the best thing.
So we sought to come up with a plan as to how to create a whole new title that had the instant feel and legitimacy of a world championship.
We threw a bunch of ideas out there for how to crown this new champion, and eventually came up with a plan playing off the fact that the Intercontinental Championship has been seen as the No. 2 title in the promotion, so perhaps we could crown someone a No. 1 contender for the current world title, and then have them face the IC Champion for this new title. Seemed that like that would give it some weight.
We knew we had 16-time World Champion Ric Flair in our back pocket as an early win for whoever this new champion would be to give the title even more pop. I also suggested we use the big gold belt for the new title (it hadn't been seen since around the time that Triple H won the unified title at WrestleMania in Toronto that year), since that belt has so much history and instant recognition.
Brock Lesnar was slated to win the Undisputed Title from The Rock at SummerSlam (at Nassau Coliseum!) soon after, with Raw emanating from Madison Square Garden the following night. We figured the MSG hook could only add to the prestige and get the ball rolling, and I think it was either Vince or Paul Heyman's idea for Brock to leave MSG with the title, defecting to SmackDown at the World's Most Famous Arena, really making an impact.
Chris Benoit was Intercontinental Champion when we came up with the plan, and he had just left Raw for SmackDown, which was a problem, since the IC title needed to be on Raw for this plan to work. So we came up with some back story about Raw having a contract for an IC Title match, so the title could be moved over to Rob Van Dam at SummerSlam.
The MSG Raw also called for a No. 1 contenders match, which would see Triple H beat the Undertaker to claim a future title shot, just moments before Brock was to jump to SmackDown only.
Then, with Brock gone and defected, our plan called for Bischoff to announce the creation of the World Heavyweight Championship, with the No. 1 contender (Triple H) facing the IC Champion (Rob Van Dam) to crown the first champion at Unforgiven.
Van Dam would then win the World Title, and our plan called for both he and Brock to hold onto their championships until the following WrestleMania -- there had been so much turmoil and craziness with the Invasion storyline and the brand extension that we resolved it would be a good thing to get one guy driving each show for the better part of the year. Having Brock and Van Dam be the guys felt new and fresh, especially after a year when you had Austin, Hogan, Rock, Triple H and Undertaker on top -- all huge stars obviously, but the fans (and most of us on creative) were screaming for something new.
We figure it was a no-lose situation -- either we would have branded a new World Championship, or, if things didn't work out, we could just get a payday out of re-uniting the titles if need be. And the early talk was to do Brock vs. RVD at WrestleMania XIX.
I didn't see a part two, so I don't think the was any follow up. But it was still an interesting read for what it was.
You can read the article as posted and find other articles from Seth HERE
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Apr 4 2008, 04:53 AM
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I think this is the rest of it.
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Why Triple H was the first Raw Champion, why I fought for Rob Van Dam, and why they were right and I was wrong Like most of the others writers on the creative team, I wanted RVD to be the first World Heavyweight Champion when we created that crown in September 2002. The thinking was that he and Brock Lesnar would be the fresh-faced champions to carry the titles through the following WrestleMania, building interest and a unique identity for each of the brands.
As you probably know, it didn't work out quite that way. Besides the fact that Brock actually lost the title just three months later, RVD never even got his moment in the sun, as Triple H actually was named the first champion, and went on to hold the title for 11 of the first 12 months of its creation.
At the time, it was disheartening to see the plans change so drastically (yes, the official plan at first was for RVD to win it). Yes, it only contributed to all the buzz and rumblings I'd heard about Triple H that I'd tried to keep an open mind about when I joined the creative team.
But here we are, years later, blessed with the gift of perspective, and I gotta say -- and you will probably disagree with me -- I was totally wrong.
Putting the title on Triple H was the best thing we could have done.
The start of 2002 was a trying time in Triple H's career -- after his return from his quad tear, he enjoyed success on-camera (winning the Royal Rumble and then the Undisputed Title at WrestleMania). But he was thrust into two roles that weren't exactly his strength -- he was a babyface (he's always been a better heel), and he was on his own (he's always thrived better when he had someone to play off of -- DX, Stephanie, Evolution, etc).
So heading into the summer, he wasn't exactly the Triple H he'd used to be.
But he was still the biggest star on the show. Rock was gone after SummerSlam, Austin was on his hiatus, Undertaker was on SmackDown, HBK was out with a worked injury from SummerSlam and Hogan was out of action.Triple H was your superstar.
So here you have this new World Heavyweight Championship, which, if introduced and portrayed correctly, is going to make you money and validate the Raw brand for years to come.
It's like Vince used to say -- spotlight. And the fewer things you spotlight at any given time, the more attention you can give to whatever's under the spotlight.
So the young superstar that Triple H needed to give the rub to, at least at that time, wasn't Rob Van Dam.
It was the World Heavyweight Championship itself.
By Triple H -- the biggest star on the show and the biggest attraction on the Raw brand -- holding that title, he made it mean something. Sure, we as marks may have hated it -- heck, I as a creative team member might have hated it at the time -- but there's no doubt that Triple H as champion gave the title instant legitimacy.
Heading into Unforgiven, it was explained to us that just awarding someone the belt is a heelish thing to do, which is why it was simply awarded to Triple H, rather than put up for grabs at the Pay-Per-View. And there were a whole bunch of reasons explained down the line -- I add the caveat that I was on the SmackDown creative team, so although we did have a lot of meetings in mixed company, I missed a lot of the discussion on the Raw title -- the main thinking is that it would mean more for RVD's (or any babyface's) win down the line if a heel were to hold it for any length of time. That's just Booking 101 -- you draw money with a babyface when they're in the thrill of the chase.
You want more proof? Think of how the early days and months of the World Heavyweight Championship were handled, and now think of how the early days of the ECW Title were handled (which, ironically enough, did start with RVD).
Both were pre-existing brands that had name recognition and a built-in fan following. Both had thin rosters, albeit with a few big stars (in September 2002, SmackDown was actually the bigger show than Raw, with Triple H being the biggest star). I'll give Raw the edge on the audience share -- Raw's timeslot was a lot more fan-friendly and established than the upstart ECW on Sci Fi.
But today the World Heavyweight Title is one of the two titles that dominate the wrestling landscape, while the ECW Title is not regarded by fans as being the prize it should be, or once was.
There's many reasons for that, not the least of which is that it's changed hands so often, and also that at one stretch, they tried to build the title concurrently with building Bobby Lashley, which didn't allow either of them enough of that "spotlight."
Let's say RVD had won the title at Unforgiven. Would he have become a big star? Maybe. In fact, probably. But when you're introducing a title that could become the flagship of your company, becoming a bigger star and drawing more money than any one individual in the longterm, you can't take that chance.
Another issue -- remember how, when Chris Jericho or Chris Benoit first became champion, and Stone Cold, Hogan, Rock and Triple H still felt like the biggest deal on the show? No knock on Jericho or Benoit, and a lot of it had to do with their positioning on the show, but it just didn't feel like the champion was the biggest thing?
That might be fine with an established title when you're trying to build something new. But Triple H was the biggest star on Raw, and giving RVD the title only meant that there was a good chance that your World Champion might not be the biggest deal going on Raw.
You needed that title next to Triple H, at least at first, to make sure that where the action was, the World Title was.
Add in the fact that he was a heel again and that we were developing this heel faction called "Evolution" for him to sink his teeth into, and it was a near foolproof plan to make sure that this new World Heavyweight Championship would be a success.
At the time, I, and many of the other writers, fought back on this, wanting to see the fresh face atop the company, and to Vince's credit -- he listened to every one of us. He was really good at listening to everyone and putting stock in what everyone had to say. But the longrun, I think he just really felt that the title itself needed to succeed above all else, and he knew Triple H was the guy who ensure the best chance of that happening.
Much as I hate to admit it, Triple H was the right guy for that job. And he did it. Say what you want about other things he's done, but he made the World Heavyweight Championship mean something, and that alone is something he deserves props for.
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Apr 4 2008, 04:54 AM
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Dang it, man! I just found it too!
Yeah, that's what I was going to post as the second part. Pretty decent logic in that the World Title needed a rub from Triple H more than RVD did. But in retrospect, I think all would agree that there should have been some sort of match to crown the first World Champion.
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Apr 4 2008, 05:04 AM
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It's a good read. Good find there Cybrus.
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Apr 4 2008, 05:20 AM
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Interesting article... things got cleared once I read the second half of it.
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Apr 4 2008, 11:36 AM
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It would of been interesting to see how things would of ended up if they had in fact went along with the first plan. But in the end they made the right choice to give the belt to the bigger star.
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Apr 4 2008, 12:49 PM
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I think RVD winning the new World Championship would have turned out as well as Chris Jericho winning the first Undisputed Championship. People just didn't accept it as the same level of a title held by Rock, Austin, or anyone else. Jericho wasn't big enough to make the title legit. Even before Triple H returned and Jericho got lost in that shitty angle, fans didn't really accept Jericho or the new title. It wasn't until Triple H won the title (and got a new design that Jericho never got) that the title became legit. And even then, it struggled as far as value and prestige went. The same would have happened if RVD won the first World Title, I suspect. People would have just been waiting for the first big name to actually win the belt.
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Apr 4 2008, 10:25 PM
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RVD was always a great athlete and a fan favorite. But never a top star. He just never had that power in him.
Triple as World Champion just looked right. And by just handing the title to him, it was a good way to get people to hate him And by keeping the title on him for so long, was an even better way to do it. And by him showing up on RAW after a PPV, with a big smile on his face. It was great. And it got you people to hate him. Now what made that different from Cena's long reign, is that Triple H could wrestler. Triple H can talk. Triple H can take an angle all by himself and make it great. Cena can't.
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