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WrestleMania XXIV Discussion
Topic Started: Feb 18 2008, 09:04 PM (4,507 Views)
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I'm looking forward to JBL/Finlay, the two seem to mesh a lot better than JBL did with Y2J.
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To tell the truth, I'm looking forward to every match. All of them have something worth watching in them.
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Mar 21 2008, 06:31 AM
Just don't play "Every time a diva botches a move, you have to drink" or something like that. Man, you don't want to be passed out before the main events. :lol:

Congradulations, now the Bunny Mania match will be watchable. :lol:
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I'd break the WM card down as follows:

Most Appealing
1. Edge vs Undertaker - The aspect of seeing these two get it on is appealing to me. Again, I don't think anyone is ever going to beat Taker at WM, but it should still be very entertaining. As far as I'm concerned, this is THE main event of the show. I'm not knocking the other main events. But this is the one I most want to see.

2. MITB - This has become one of the big reasons to watch WM now. This year has the added intrigue of seeing the biggest name in the match and the most worthy of winning being suspended mere weeks before the match. But even without Hardy, I think the match is going to be great. You have three high flyers (Shelton, Morrison, Carlito), a very reliable worker (Jericho), a guy that is very over even though he is on the outcast show (Punk), a great up-and-coming heel (MVP), and the winner (Kennedy). The great thing about this match is that even though I have long since pegged Kennedy to win, someone else could just as easily get the victory. Rumor has it that Carlito is suppose to be in for a big push since he decided to stay with WWE. Will this be the start. Punk has always been over and is just looking for a reason to jump brands. Will this be it? MVP has been steadily moving up the cards, recently working with Batista. Will this further his rise?

3. WWE Title Match - As far as WWE is concerned, this is the main event of WM. I disagree, but whatever. I do think it's going to be one of the top matches, though. I am hoping for a Triple H victory. I'd be happy with an Orton victory. I fear a Cena victory.

Appealing Matches
1. Flair vs HBK - Perhaps the most appealing part is that this will be Flair's last match. Most Flair matches aren't good these days, so I don't expect this to be a show stealer, but I expect HBK will do his best to make it memorable and I suspect Flair's desire to have his last match great will make him step up his game as well.

2. JBL vs Finlay - I'm glad this is going to be a brawl match, since brawling is what the two do best. Should be a very good, very intense mid card match. I kind of want Hornswoggle to turn on Finlay and align with JBL, just to add a bit more drama to this storyline. But I suspect Hornswoggle will interfere on part of Finlay.

3. Umaga vs Batista - Just like the Finlay/JBL match, I suspect this will be a very entertaining mid card match. Umaga is always fun to watch (except when he's in squash matches) and Batista is fun as long as he's paired with the right partner.

4. Big Show vs Mayweather - I've lost most interest in this match. It started out great at No Way Out, but I haven't cared much for it since. I wish Big Show was doing something else.

Unappealing Matches
1. Bunnymania - I don't care about it at all. Well, that's not entirely true. I hope Santino comes out and saves this segment from being a total waste.

2. Chavo vs .... - I don't watch ECW, so I don't really care about this match either.

3. Battle Royal - This is the most appealing of the three unappealing matches. Battle Royals are fun to watch, most times. But it's mostly consisting of guy's that aren't big enough to have a real match at WM. Jobber matches aren't that interesting.
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I'm looking forward to the entire card. Well, minus the Bunnymania match though I'll still watch it anyway.
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There isn't a single match on the card that is unappealing. I watch ECW and I like it. Better then Smackdown or TNA to tell you the truth. I think Morrison, Burke and Kofi are some of the best youngsters out there. I don't think CM Punk is near as good as people think, but he definitly does not suck. And it's only an hour so it doesn't drag on. And I have been a fan of the Chavo title run.

The battle royal will be won by Kane, I think. I would love for Burke to do it, but I don't think he's gettin a push. And well Kane needs something. So I see a Chavo vs Kane match for the title. With a DQ ending taking place.

As for the main events. I think the triple threat match is not only more appealing, but will probably be the better match at the end of the day. Because it IS a triple threat, and lots of cool things can happen in triple threats.

Not to say Edge vs Taker isn't appealing. Like I said before. This is the best set of main events since the brand expansion.

Of course Umaga/Batista and JBL/Finlay along with HBK/Flair make for a hell of an undercard.

The MITB. Not to sound bias but, MVP,Morrison,Jericho,Carlito,Punk and Benjamen are the guys who are gonna put on the show. Kennedy will probably win. But since I think he is the worst one in the match, I am most certaintly hoping he doesn't. Carlito is the most appealing to me. But anybody other then Kennedy or Punk, makes me happy. All of them deserve pushes, except for Jericho who blew it. Morrison,Benjamen,MVP and Carlito are phenominal talents. MVP and Carlito more so because they can talk the talk aswell. This is going to be one of those matches where Im sweating bullets during the whole thing but in the end I'll be cursing like crazy. I do hope the same does not happen with the main event.
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I want to see Edge totally destroy The Undertaker. That dude has a totally awesome future ahead of him in WWE and since The Undertaker is going to have to retire sometime, it would be nice if a dude like Edge could finally beat him.

Too bad Edge wasn't still undefeated at WrestleMania because seeing an undefeated streak going against and undefeated streak with Edge winning would be radical.
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Mar 23 2008, 09:35 PM
Too bad Edge wasn't still undefeated at WrestleMania because seeing an undefeated streak going against and undefeated streak with Edge winning would be radical.

I fucking agree with that. If Edge was undefeated, I'd be 50 times more interested in the Edge-Taker match and I wouldn't mind Taker losing, it would make sense and Taker wouldn't lose credibility. Now, with Edge losing last year at WM23 and being stuck with Vickie Guerrero and the Edgeheads, as well as the way the Taker-Edge feud in handled, I'm not that interested in the Edge-Taker match... but I still expect it to be an enjoyable match.
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When was Edge DEFEATED???
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Not defeated as much as he didn't win, which could be argued to be the same thing as defeated.
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He did not won the MITB match last year. They should have had Edge vs Orton (with Orton as a face for a month) for WM23 and Orton doing the jobber role so Edge could arrive undefeated to this WM.

Undefeated guys at WrestleMania facing each other = a more appealing match.
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It really doesn't bother me to be honest. It's still the only match on the card that I'm interested in.
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The WHC Title match is the 3rd place in matches I'm most interested in, behind MITB and the WWE Title match.
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That triple threat match is so blah! I honestly couldn't give a rat's ass about any one of them. They can pretty much just fuck themselves in the ring for all I care. As for the MITB match, I really only have a modicum of interest. They'd have to pull off some really captivating shit (that doesn't necessarily mean a bevy of useless stunts btw) to put it past the standard of ladder matches. Or, have Jericho win for me to care...somewhat. The latter is more likely to happen than the former.
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I don't know... I don't like the three guys in the WWE Title match, but somehow the match has got my attention more than the WHC Match... I like Edge and everything, but I'm fucking sick of seeing him stuck with Vickie. :td: And Taker's annoying me with his Gogoplata move as well.

The MITB has my interest despite Jeff being removed...

I know you don't watch WWE that much, Outsider... but the few I've seen from both Title matches (as far as buildup goes) inclines me to be interested more about the Raw match, but I never said it would be a better match than the WHC Title. I only said it was more interesting...
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Meh, I guess I'm just going by how it looks on paper.
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Mar 24 2008, 02:45 AM
That triple threat match is so blah! I honestly couldn't give a rat's ass about any one of them. They can pretty much just fuck themselves in the ring for all I care. As for the MITB match, I really only have a modicum of interest. They'd have to pull off some really captivating shit (that doesn't necessarily mean a bevy of useless stunts btw) to put it past the standard of ladder matches. Or, have Jericho win for me to care...somewhat. The latter is more likely to happen than the former.

Lol, that man has high standards.
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Mar 24 2008, 09:54 AM
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Mar 24 2008, 02:45 AM
That triple threat match is so blah! I honestly couldn't give a rat's ass about any one of them. They can pretty much just fuck themselves in the ring for all I care. As for the MITB match, I really only have a modicum of interest. They'd have to pull off some really captivating shit (that doesn't necessarily mean a bevy of useless stunts btw) to put it past the standard of ladder matches. Or, have Jericho win for me to care...somewhat. The latter is more likely to happen than the former.

Lol, that man has high standards.

I'm expecting Jimmy 15 to diss the shit out of him, since nobody shall touch his beloved WWE... :busy:
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Mar 24 2008, 11:07 AM
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Mar 24 2008, 09:54 AM
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Mar 24 2008, 02:45 AM
That triple threat match is so blah! I honestly couldn't give a rat's ass about any one of them. They can pretty much just fuck themselves in the ring for all I care. As for the MITB match, I really only have a modicum of interest. They'd have to pull off some really captivating shit (that doesn't necessarily mean a bevy of useless stunts btw) to put it past the standard of ladder matches. Or, have Jericho win for me to care...somewhat. The latter is more likely to happen than the former.

Lol, that man has high standards.

I'm expecting Jimmy 15 to diss the shit out of him, since nobody shall touch his beloved WWE... :busy:

Outsider's opinion is simply based on his taste. He obviously has bad taste, but that's besides the point. What Outsider or you for that matter have to say about Triple H or Orton or Cena, will not change the fact that they are the top 3 guys in wrestling. Making this match not only the most appealing, but the main event.

Ya dig :cool:
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I think the triple threat's going to be a great match. It has shown in the past that Triple H has had great matches with both Orton and Cena, and the fact that it's a triple threat match takes the load off both Orton and Cena. If it was one of them in a one-on-one match, I would have been more negative, but it's the fact that they'll only have to be in the spotlight less than half the time will make it seem more sound.
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I'll be setting up the Roundtable for WM24 soon...

Here's the list of the 24 men in the Battle Royale...
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Compared to past Mania's this one is looking pretty bleh. Both Main Events (and Flair vs. Michaels) are looking to be must sees, but the other matches reak of fillerness.
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I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be, granted it has seem that WM hasn't been as great as it was when they had the Iron Man match or first ladder match but there are still ones to watch.

Guess I'm trying no to be so bias towards this as I am usually. It's probably do to with the amount of people watching it.

You'd think it was a Nitro party. :lol:
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Only someone with a severe mental dissabilty would think that the WM's lately arn't good compared to the old WM's. Lets begin. There wasn't a soid WM until WM 8. And even after that there wasnt one until 12. WM 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 were all the best WM's that can be listed. WM 23 doesn't match up to those, I will give you that.

But to say this years WM looks bleh comes for pure bias and nothing more. The main events. The MITB. Flair v Micheals. Batista v Umaga, hell even Finaly v JBL. Hell of a lineup for those who's heads are not in there asses.

I'll be here all week. :cool:
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^He mostly speaks the truth. Although he forgot Wrestlemania XIV, which was the best.
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Below is a list of WWE wrestlers who aren't scheduled to appear at WrestleMania XXIV this Sunday.
Raw
- Charlie Haas
- D.H. Smith
- Drew McIntyre
- Jeff Hardy (suspended)
- Paul Burchill
- Paul London (being held off the main pay-per-view show for the fifth consecutive year)
- Robbie McAllister
- Ron Simmons (reportedly staying at a rehabilitation center)
- Rory McAllister (injured)
- Santino Marella (will more than likely being doing something during the Divas match though)
- Super Crazy
- William Regal

SmackDown
- Curt Hawkins
- Dave Taylor
- Funaki
- Gregory Helms (injured)
- Kenny Dykstra
- Matt Hardy
- Rey Mysterio (injured)
- Zack Ryder

ECW
- Balls Mahoney
- Big Daddy V (he's mentioned on the yet to be updated preview for the ECW Title Battle Royal, but wasn't one of the 24 men on last night's ECW)
- Boogeyman
- Colin Delaney
- Kevin Thorn
- Mike Knox
- Nunzio
- Stevie Richards

Also note, all of the WWE Divas are scheduled to appear at ringside for the Lumberjack Playboy Bunnymania match.

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What wrestlers did you want on the card?
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I wanted someone that only made one appearance at Raw's 15th anerversiry....ROB...VAN..DAM
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But to say this years WM looks bleh comes for pure bias and nothing more. The main events. The MITB. Flair v Micheals. Batista v Umaga, hell even Finaly v JBL. Hell of a lineup for those who's heads are not in there asses.

I'll be here all week. :cool:

Call me biased if you want, I'm just not that excited about this card. :shrug:

Like I said, the only matches I'm actually felling stoked for are the two world title matches and Flair vs. Michaels as those are the only fueds that perked my interest. I'll give you the Finlay vs. JBL match two. That's really the only mid card fued I like for Mania.

But really I'm not much of an Umaga or a Batista fan, so that match does not intereset me. I don't watch ECW so I don't really care much about the Battle Royal, Bunny Mania will be a giant botchfest (boner inducing, but a botchfest nonetheless :P). And I don't like Floyd vs. Big Show simply because of the fact that Show will job to that asshole.

So really, from the looks, this WM is hit or miss for me. Who knows, I could be wrong, guess I'll just wait and see.
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Mayweather in WrestleMania: Fact and fiction
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Mar 27, 2:20 pm EDT

Floyd Mayweather Jr. is days away from a guest-starring role at World Wrestling Entertainment’s annual WrestleMania event, where he will wrestle against nearly 7-foot tall Paul “Big Show” Wight.


But the WWE has changed directions constantly with their plans for the Yahoo! Sports No. 1 pound-for-pound boxer for Sunday’s event at the Florida Citrus Bowl in Orlando, Fla.


The original idea was a tag-team match in which Mayweather’s role was to be Wight’s partner as villains against a Latino superstar team of boxer Oscar De La Hoya and wrestler Rey Mysterio, the company’s diminutive but spectacular masked kids favorite.

The idea on paper was a winner. You’ve got the biggest rivalry in boxing with two guys who last year did the biggest pay-per-view numbers in history, and with the 441-pound Wight and the 5-2, 165-pound Mysterio, you have a David vs. Goliath tale. Mysterio, already the company’s top Latin draw, would have only gotten bigger as De La Hoya’s partner.


But things changed quickly. De La Hoya turned down the offer, as it would have interfered with his training for his May fight against Steve Forbes. Another wrestler, Dave Batista, was put in De La Hoya’s spot. But then Mysterio suffered a full biceps tear in a match in Santiago, Chile, which needed surgery and removed him from the equation.


At that point the decision was made for a Mayweather vs. Wight singles match, with the idea of making Mayweather into Mysterio’s buddy. The story started in Las Vegas on Feb. 17 on a WWE pay-per-view event. Big Show was bullying the injured Mysterio, who took one for the team by performing with his biceps injury before going in for surgery. Earlier in the show, they had done an interview establishing Mayweather and Mysterio and running mates. Mayweather hit the ring. Show mocked him by getting on his knees, and Mayweather unleashed a barrage of punches to the face.


The next problem was, wrestling fans didn’t like Mayweather. He was heavily booed whenever he appeared at wrestling functions, or whenever his name was mentioned. When a press conference in Los Angeles featured loud chants of “De La Hoya,” Mayweather threw money into the crowd. The only clips that aired on television were the fans excited over the money being thrown, making it appear the fans actually liked him. After a few weeks of portraying him as the smiling hero facing an enormous challenge, the fans completely rejected the portrayal and the company did an about-face and made Mayweather Jr. into a villain.


Wrestling, of course, is a blend of a reality and illusion. Here’s what’s real and what isn’t regarding Mayweather in WrestleMania:


$20 million: The alleged amount of money Mayweather is supposed to be getting for his appearance. Not real. The most money anyone has ever earned for a one-time pro wrestling appearance was Mike Tyson at WrestleMania in 1998, which was good for about $3.5 million. Even though pro wrestling was more popular in America then, WrestleMania itself is a bigger money show now, partially because WWE’s popularity has expanded outside North America. But the Tyson of 1998 had more drawing power than the Mayweather of 2008. Wrestling sources indicate Mayweather is getting a $2 million flat fee, plus a percentage that should put him in Tyson’s range.


$34-42 million: The very real amount of money WWE will gross from the event, combining their percentage of the worldwide pay-per-view, the live gate, merchandise sold at the event and the subsequent DVD release that comes out a month later. The event will top 1 million buys, and the company’s goal is to break its all-time record of 1.25 million worldwide buys set for a similar event last year, in which Donald Trump put his hair at stake against WWE owner Vince McMahon, the latter of whom was shaved bald. After the cable companies get their share, WWE’s take should be anywhere from $22.5 million to $29 million.

With the exception of the proposed De La Hoya vs. Mayweather match in September, this should be the biggest pay-per-view event of any kind in 2008, and if it beats last year, will become the largest non-boxing pay-per-view event in history. The expected crowd of more than 70,000 fans will pay $6 million or so in ticket sales, setting a North American pro wrestling record. Merchandise accounts for another $1.5 million. The event DVD should gross the company more than $4 million and could easily top $5 million.

The vast majority of that money was drawn on the name WrestleMania, the 24th incarnation of an annual tradition, not because of the publicity Mayweather is bringing to the event. This is actually the first WrestleMania in over a decade not to sell out well in advance, and live tickets have moved relatively slowly, maybe around 1,000 per week, since Mayweather was announced. His value as a pay-per-view attraction is a wild card.


The key selling point: When the challenge of Mayweather gaining revenge for his injured buddy and slaying the fire-breathing giant went up in smoke when the fans wouldn’t cooperate with the portrayal, a new idea had to be formulated. The selling point now is that Show has vowed to injure Mayweather and end his boxing career. Because of the size difference, Mayweather has no chance and thus if you buy the show, you’ll see history. Even though pro wrestling is scripted, the real injury rate is obscenely high. But Mayweather will be taking no risks that will threaten future payoffs. Not real.


The nearly two feet in height and 300 pound size difference: Bad math. While pro wrestling is a world where anyone who is 6-7 can be labeled a 7-footer (the most famous exaggeration being the late Andre the Giant, billed at 7-4 and 7-5 his entire career even though he was really 6-9 3/4), Wight is close enough to seven feet that he was listed as being a 7-footer when he had limited playing time as a basketball player at Wichita State University in the early ’90s.

Mayweather is 5-8. At the weigh-in a few weeks ago, a brawl broke out. According to the scales, Wight was 441.4 pounds, down from 530 a year ago when he retired as a wrestler – to try boxing. The year of training did wonders for his health, but evidently he didn’t believe he could box, because he’s back to wrestling. Mayweather was 159. Believe it or not, the scale was legitimate.


The broken nose: The story for this match started on Feb. 17, when Mayweather jumped into the ring to save Mysterio, and threw a flurry of bare-knuckle punches at Show’s head. An errant blow hit the nose and a significant amount of blood came from his nose and mouth. Thee blood was real, and not planned, but for visual effect, it was a fortunate mistake. Sources say the nose, however, was not broken.


The elbow injury: After the weigh-in, Wight picked Mayweather up for in a “SportsCenter” moment and threw him out of the ring where a group of WWE wrestlers were waiting to catch him. Mayweather got up, starting holding his elbow, and ran to the back. The WWE then put out a story that Mayweather had injured his elbow, pushing the story line that Mayweather is risking his boxing career by participating in the match. The story of this alleged injury received no media attention and WWE quietly forgot they staged the injury.


As far as what will happen on Sunday? Expect a lot of distractions from outside the ring and a carefully choreographed encounter. Mayweather will be protected from any physical risks.

Wrestling fans have been conditioned to believe small guys have no chance with big guys, so even though Mayweather is as legitimate a fighter as there is, fans won’t buy too many minutes of him beating on a guy that much bigger than him. Whenever a boxer does pro wrestling, the climactic spot is always the knockout punch.

But Mayweather is more likely to deliver on someone not in the match who jumps into the ring. In the end, somebody will lose, probably due to interference from another wrestler, getting the clip on “SportsCenter” later that night.

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I'm calling it: Rey will interfere.
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