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Unforgiven Discussion Thread; September 7, 2008
Topic Started: Aug 19 2008, 11:33 PM (1,306 Views)
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1. World Heavyweight Championship Scramble match
--CM Punk© vs JBL vs Kane vs Batista vs Mysterio

2. WWE Championship Scramble match
--Triple H© vs Shelton Benjamin vs Jeff Hardy vs MVP vs The Brian Kendrick

3. ECW Championship Scramble
--Mark Henry© vs Chavo vs Matt Hardy vs Finlay vs The Miz

4. Divas Championship Match
--Michelle McCool© vs Maryse

5. Unsanctioned Match
--Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels

6. World Tag Team Title match
--Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase vs Cryme Tyme
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The scramble match sounds like a 5 man Iron Man match, which is fine. But there is one thing that I don't understand yet. Adamle said the title will change hands for every end-fall. Does this mean these guys will come out of the match with multiple title reigns (all lasting mere minutes) or does it mean the final decision will be the only reign that counts statistics wise?
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It will be multiple reigns. He said when someone gets a win, they are the champion. The title can and will change hands multiple times during the match. So, it will be a cheap way to add to the number of times someone is champ probably.
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Correct.

It is just like the Hardcore Title match from WM17, only you don't need to pin the champ to take the title.
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So that's the rules to the match (I didn't pay attention to Adamle because he's a boring waste of space).

They're doing that for a World Championship? That's...terrible.

Now only that, it's going to further devalue reigns from the past. You know, back when a three-time World Champ was a big deal. In five years time, you're going to have to have over ten to even be a blip on the radar it seems. :-/
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The website says that the only champion they'll acknowledge would be the guy who remains champion by the end of the match.
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For anyone that doesn't feel like going to WWE.com, here is what EmWhy is talking about:

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Once the clock starts, it’s every man for himself. If any of the Superstars scores a pinfall or submission on any of their competitors, they become the current champion. But that’s not nearly the end of it.

The championship can change hands several times throughout the 20-minute time frame. Whoever the champion is when the clock stops will officially be recognized as the World Heavyweight Champion.


I like this more. It's basically a 20 minute Iron Man match between 5 guys.
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Here's a bit more.

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WWE announced the following rules for the Unforgiven 5-man Scramble match on the compnay's Fan Nation site:

The match has a 20-minute time limit. The champion and a randomly selected challenger will start the match, with a new challenger entering the match every five minutes.

If a Superstar scores a pinfall or submission on any other Superstar in the match, he is declared the "temporary" champion for match purposes (and is not officially recognized as champion in the title history). He holds that designation until another Superstar scores a subsequent pinfall or submission on any other Superstar.
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Kraul

Oh, that's much better. Much better. I've not problem with that and it could actually get pretty dramatic in the last few minutes.

I expect a title change right before the bell or maybe even an almost complete pinfall that is just a fraction of a second too late, planting the seeds for the next championship feud.
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:attention: SD! Spoiler content below :attention:



I dislike having both title matches be the same type, but I really dig the new concept match.


:attention: SD! Spoiler content above :attention:
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Kraul

Both are? I thought it was only the World belt.

Well, then I wouldn't doubt it if I see both outcomes then (one ending with a last second win and the other ending with someone almost winning).
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TOAL edited out his reply. He did label the spoiler clearly. I did not label my reply to a spoiler as clearly. My apologies. I'll fix it before anyone else views unwarned spoilers.
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Recently WWE have posted the rules to the Scramble match on their Fan Nation site, and here they are:

* The match has a 20-minute time limit. The champion and a randomly selected challenger will start the match, with a new challenger entering the match every five minutes.

* If a Superstar scores a pinfall or submission on any other Superstar in the match, he is declared the "temporary" champion for match purposes (and is not officially recognized as champion in the title history). He holds that designation until another Superstar scores a subsequent pinfall or submission on any other Superstar.

* A superstar may lose the declared "temporary" championship in the event he is disqualified or counted out during the duration of the match. A superstar that has submitted, been pinned, disqualified or counted out will not be eliminated from the scramble and will be allowed to participate until the 20 minute time limit.

* An official has the authority to place a 2 or 5 minute penalty to any superstar who engages in an illegal act. (The use of any foreign object, outside interference, leaving the ring area, etc.) If a superstar receives more that two penalties during the duration of the contest they will be ejected from the championship scramble.
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Kraul

The rules give me a King of the Mountain feel.

I know it's almost nothing like a King of the Mountain match (other than the penalties thing), but it just has that feeling to me. :shrug:
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I think the Penalty Box defected to WWE for a bigger paycheck.
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This does sound like the kind of match TNA would put together. The thing is, TNA's stuff wouldn't be so bad if they only did matches like this once in awhile. But, because they have ppvs full of gimmick matches and free TV gimmick matches, everything they do is overkill and gets old. WWE's match will probably come off well simply because it's new, they usually only have one or two gimmick matches per ppv and usually space out the over the top gimmicks during the year.
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Aug 23 2008, 07:55 PM
* The match has a 20-minute time limit. The champion and a randomly selected challenger will start the match, with a new challenger entering the match every five minutes.

Lets think this out, using hypothetical set ups:

Punk and JBL start the match (0:00)
Kane joins the match (5:00)
Batista joins the match (10:00)
Cena joins the match (15:00)
Match ends (20:00)

This will be interesting in that it will constantly give the match a new element and the fresher man will be expected to have a better chance of winning, but, man, the last person in each Scramble will only have to work five minutes. It would be something of a rip-off if you only watch the match to see a certain performer and only get to see 5 minutes of them. :-/
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I'm willing to bet that Batista is the last guy in and hits the Batista Bomb on someone and then Cena takes out Batista and Punk get the pin to retain the belt.
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I would prefer them to have a new entry every 3 minutes. At least this way, the last guy is still in for 11 minutes.
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Aug 23 2008, 07:11 PM
I think the Penalty Box defected to WWE for a bigger paycheck.

:lol:
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Aug 25 2008, 02:27 AM
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Aug 23 2008, 07:11 PM
I think the Penalty Box defected to WWE for a bigger paycheck.

:lol:

All jokes aside, he's probably right.
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A World Tag Team match? That's something you don't see often on PPVs.

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sources: Wrestling Observer Newsletter, www.f4wonline.com

-- At the moment, WWE has plans for the winner of the SmackDown Scramble match at Unforgiven to subsequently defend the title later in the night against Undertaker. The idea is that Vickie Guerrero would be giving him the title shot as a peace offering.



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Divas Championship Match added.
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I just ordered the ppv. This is the first WWE ppv I have ordered since...I'm not sure. I think I got WM....

Anybody else watching tonight?
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I'll be doing live coverage on The Cool Kids Table for this pay-per-view. For those of you who can't watch the event, you can click here to follow my play-by-play report. Thanks for the support, guys.
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Sep 7 2008, 06:26 PM
I just ordered the ppv. This is the first WWE ppv I have ordered since...I'm not sure. I think I got WM....

You ordered Royal Rumble 2007. I dunno if you watched this year's WM.
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Sep 7 2008, 06:30 PM
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Sep 7 2008, 06:26 PM
I just ordered the ppv. This is the first WWE ppv I have ordered since...I'm not sure. I think I got WM....

You ordered Royal Rumble 2007. I dunno if you watched this year's WM.

:lol: Thanks.

And we'll probably give updates here too. :tu:
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I just ordered the ppv. This is the first WWE ppv I have ordered since...I'm not sure. I think I got WM....

You ordered Royal Rumble 2007. I dunno if you watched this year's WM.

That's...creepy.
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