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So help me God not
Topic Started: Jan 15 2009, 03:21 AM (89 Views)
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WASHINGTON – President-elect Barack Obama wants to conclude his inaugural oath with the words "so help me God," but a group of atheists is asking a federal judge to stop him.

California atheist Michael Newdow sued Chief Justice John Roberts in federal court for an injunction barring the use of those words in the inaugural oath.

Newdow and other atheists and agnostics also want to stop the use of prayers during the inaugural celebration.

Newdow, who lost a Supreme Court battle to get the words "under God" taken out of the Pledge of Allegiance, has failed in similar challenges to the use of religious words and prayers at President George W. Bush's inaugurations.

Roberts' attorney Jeffrey P. Minear filed a document in Newdow's lawsuit saying that Obama wants the words "so help me God" included in his oath of office.

The Justice Department and attorneys general from all 50 states have filed motions at the federal court asking for the lawsuit to be thrown out.

The oath dictated by the Constitution is 35 words long and reads: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

The National Archives says that George Washington added the words "so help me God" when he took the oath at his 1789 inaugural, and most presidents have used it since. However, some have argued that the first eyewitness account of a president using those words came at President Chester Arthur's inauguration in 1881.

Named in Newdow's lawsuit are Roberts; Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.; and the two pastors invited to the event, the Rev. Rick Warren and the Rev. Joseph Lowery.

U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton will hear arguments on Thursday.
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Darren
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Just let it go... for fucks sake. If you don't believe in god fair enough, but if he does let him have his words.
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MY85
It's a fabulous new day, yes it is!
Shit like this make atheists annoying at times.

I understand atheists getting pissed with how religious persons (mainly catholic) shove their religion onto people's faces, but sometimes some of these atheists come across as assholes.

Besides... doesn't the US dollar bill says "In God We Trust"?
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Kraul

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Jan 15 2009, 05:19 AM
Besides... doesn't the US dollar bill says "In God We Trust"?
Yes and it shouldn't.

But if Obama wants to say "so help me God" after his lines, he should be able to. It's not mandatory but a personal decision. No different than presidents who don't want to say "so help me God" at the end.
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MY85
It's a fabulous new day, yes it is!
I personally don't care much if Obama or any president mentions God, really.

I kinda think that starting his speech with those exact words might not help US citizens to look the future in a optimistic way. :shrug:

He's probably better off mentioning "so help me God" halfway through the speech or when he's about to end it rather than beginning with it, but it won't have the same impact.
Edited by MY85, Jan 15 2009, 07:28 AM.
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Cybrus
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STAY HYPED!!!
I'm an Atheist and I couldn't care less if Obama concluded his inauguration with "so help me god". He's just expressing his own beliefs. He's not forcing them on me or anyone else, which is separation of church and state as far as I'm concerned. So I don't see why it would matter.
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BURN IT DOOOWWNNNNNNNN!
Atheists can be just has much an asshole as the over-religious.
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