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Jim Cornette rips Monday Night Battle
Topic Started: Jan 6 2010, 01:49 PM (335 Views)
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Jim Cornette slammed both WWE Raw and TNA Impact during his Who's Slamming Who podcast. "The one thing about Vince Russo and Hulk Hogan is they never disappoint me," Cornette said. "I was going into it hoping it would be a bad show because I wanted to prove the point that they can't grab their ass with both hands, but they by far and away exceeded my every expectation.

"In five years, people will be looking back at January 4, 2010 as the night that the wrestling business finally fell in the toilet and led the way to change that will be meaningful. Because if anybody wants to buy a ticket to anything that TNA or WWE does ever again after seeing five hours of a bunch of old, gray-haired guys yelling at each other about shit that took place 15 years ago...I am god smacked.

If you look up the phrase buyer's remorse in the dictionary, there's a picture of Dixie Carter today. Even she, with her limited knowledge of anything related to professional wrestling, had to realize that they were dropping a turd on a plate in the middle of all those people." To listen to the full podcast, visit WhosSlammingWho.podomatic.com.


Solid point in that no new name was really highlighted outside of AJ Styles. Monday Night was a fun night from TNA. I enjoyed it splendidly. However, lets hope they are true to their word and focus on highlighting younger talent.
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Jim Cornette is right - let's hope it doesn't become nWo 8.7
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They can use the nWo as a side story, and basically have new guys rip them apart from time to time to make their names more known. Hell, wasn't Goldberg big for doing that?
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Goldberg was as entrenched in that nWo saga as much as anyone else was even though he wasn't a member.
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I'm not going to disagree with Cornette, but I'm not going to agree with him at this point either. I felt the January 4th shows (most notably from about 8:55-9:20) was some of the most exciting wrestling stuff I have ever seen, because of the build-up and content. I mean I'm trying to think of all of the '97-'10 comparisons and totally agree that they are basically the same, but I don't think TNA could have done anything differently in trying to gain viewers. It's not like WWE has that one star today that would pull viewers from WWE to TNA like Hogan (or Hogan turning heel from face) did with WCW. I mean if Rock or Austin jumped to WCW back in the day I think the ultimate battle would have gone a different route, but I just don't think there's that one "impact" guy who can do the same today unless you re-create history like TNA is doing now.

So yeah, Cornette isn't wrong by saying what he did, but I mean if TNA wanted to make a real name for themselves, they didn't have many other options than do what they did.

But hey, if they highlight Styles and Angle for every main event and PPV, I don't see how they can lose. :lol:
Edited by WWEFootos48, Jan 15 2010, 12:27 AM.
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They had plenty of other options. WCW made a name by capturing stars of the day, rather than stars of two decades ago. If they wanted to go along the WCW route they'd have made a large fanfare out of Jeff Hardy's arrival and the large amount of WWE superstars they have working for them now - not that a fat Scott Hall, a suicidal Hulk Hogan and a pathetic looking XPac showed up.
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Yeah, but my point is somebody like Hardy doesn't cause an impact. The biggest star that WCW made out of the era that wasn't one of those old guys like Hogan or Hall or Nash coming from the WWF was Goldberg. That's really it. Benoit, Guerrero, Jericho, etc., were well remembered by fans, but they weren't the sole reason people tuned in. Someone like Hardy won't make people go "OH SHIT! LET'S WATCH THAT SHOW BECAUSE THEY'RE 4 REAL!"

TNA would have probably gotten below average ratings on the show if they hyped Hardy over Hogan because although he's popular by WWE standards, he just doesn't have that draw someone like Hogan does.
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alone i think you're right about hardy. if you lump him with some other current talent i'd say you're wrong and that they could draw as many as hogan could. and in any case, it's far better for the long term.
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I agree it would be better for the long-term, but I mean who exactly are you talking about? Bring a package of Cena, Orton and Triple H to TNA? That would take a chunk out of WWE's audience, but is that really plausable?
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hardy, angle and christian have already been there - three former wwe champion...ship contenders. it's not a stretch.

and i firmly believe having these old dinosaurs there in any major capacity for a long term is going to hurt TNA more than it will benefit them - nobody wants to see these old codgers unless they're involved in something completely new (which they're not).
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Whereas I disagreed with calling Triple H and HBK obsolete dinosaurs since they both can deliver on the mic and in the ring, I do agree that Hall, Nash, Hogan, the Nasty Boys, and almost everyone else TNA brought in on January 4 are dinosaurs that need to leave the spotlight. These guys cannot work a match and, as seen on January 4, they are still under the assumption that it is 1997, TNA is WCW, and they are all in their primes. That's not the case. Their involvement did get people talking. I've talked about TNA at work before and the wrestling fans said they hated it. Now, they are all watching it because Hogan and co came in. So the interest is there. But they are not going to keep the interest unless they develop younger guys.

Also, I disagree Jeff Hardy not being a big impact player. He was the most popular act in WWE. Nobody was more popular than Jeff Hardy. Nobody. The guy got rockstar receptions every time. And his feud against CM Punk over the summer was the best feud of the year. He left at a huge high. He literally walked away from WWE when he was at the popularity height and push height of his career. If TNA would have made a bigger deal about his signing and not have watered his jump down by bringing in 20 other guys, then Hardy would have made a huge Impact for TNA. And if they would have hyped him up on every show thereafter and on their website like they have struck gold, then TNA's ratings would have rose. No, I don't think it would have had the same impact of Hogan turning heel and starting the n.W.o. angle, but lets be honest and say that such success is an extreme rarity.

Ric Flair is the only name I'm really on the fence about. If TNA has brought him back in as a manager, then I'm liking it. Actually, I think I'd like it best if he initially signed with AJ, but then turns on him by helping someone else win and keep the World Title. I wouldn't even mind one Flair/AJ match from such a storyline. But if this is just Flair returning to wrestling, then I'm not really liking that. Flair shouldn't be an active wrestler.
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