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Best wrestling promo; No tourno
Topic Started: Jun 21 2010, 02:20 PM (1,042 Views)
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So there was I was playing SimCity4 and I thought, shit, the Wrestlemania X7 promo was really awesome. In this thread, we discuss other awesome promo's - you know the things before PPV's and certain matches? Those. I have three particular favourites that I can always remember. What are yours?

WWF - Over The Edge 1998. See this video for an example of how to make a promo a little different. That's what sucks about the WWE these days, in that all promos are very similar. I like the comparison between McMahon and Benito Moussilini in particular. Note also, on a side point, how loud the crowd is during the opening pyro - and it wasn't even in the MSG!


WWF - St. Valentines Day Massacre. This one is well known for a good reason.


WWF - Wrestlemania X7. Mediocre song but used to great effect. Pinnacle of the WWF, so I'm not sure if it's the promo or the period I'm appreciating here. Still, great stuff.
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You mean recaps and event intros, right?

Well, one of my favorites is the intro to WrestleMania XV. It's about the only thing I can't get off youtube. It was the one with Fred Blassie narrating, and where the whole "showcase of the immortals" tagline came from.
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Yeah that stuff. Recaps, intros, promos (because they promote the PPV, you know? that's what i've always known em as).

i dont remember the wrestlemania XV one - which is annoying because we dont have a youtube clip of it. you can always try to do a search where you replaced the E's with 3's and see if that works.
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Kame

I really loved the "Survivor Series 2008" promo that hyped John Cena's return to the WWE. Unfortunately, I can't find a video of the damn thing anywhere. Guess it couldn't have been that good. :(
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Jun 21 2010, 02:54 PM
I really loved the "Survivor Series 2008" promo that hyped John Cena's return to the WWE. Unfortunately, I can't find a video of the damn thing anywhere. Guess it couldn't have been that good. :(
Found what you're looking for. Starts at about a minute in.

Spoiler: click to toggle


Of course, no luck on mine, though. :angry:
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I've never seen the St. Valentines Day Massacre intro. That's pretty awesome. Very unique.

I wish WWE would take chances on promos like that again instead of making each one so cookie cutter now with the same generic rock I wouldn't listen to outside of a WWE show if you paid me to.

Load up a PPV promo for just about any WWF PPV from '97 to 2000 and I'll probably love it and cry a little on the inside since we don't get ones like that anymore.
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Jun 21 2010, 02:31 PM
Well, one of my favorites is the intro to WrestleMania XV. It's about the only thing I can't get off youtube. It was the one with Fred Blassie narrating, and where the whole "showcase of the immortals" tagline came from.
Are you sure you didn't mean WrestleMania X-Seven? I know Blassie narrated that one. If you did mean that one, it really is awesome. Gives me chills each time.

Although I agree that most of today's are extremely similar, I think the Shawn Michaels/Undertaker "Placebo" one before WM 26 was the best of the best, even as good as the Rock/Austin one in my opinion.

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Back when I was losing interest in wrestling, that little known company ROH was starting a feud with a rival promotion. At the time I thought it was one of the best things going even if it's only considered an Indy company.

Anyways I can't find the one promo that Cornette did, guess you have to pick up the dvd......think it was Hell Freezes Over but not sure. This is just one of the few that he cut that was was great.

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I forget which WWF PPV it was, but it was right at the beginning of the Austin/McMahon feud. Back when Vince was still trying to get Austin to conform to his way. The PPV opening/teaser showed clips of...er, a military marching in conformity. And the voice over the video (a female voice, I believe) kept saying things like "You will conform" and "Conformity". I don't want to say that the video pointed Vince out to be Hitler, but um, yeah, that's the way I'm remembering it.

Does anyone remember which PPV this was for? :lol:
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I have no idea. It's not like that was the first video posted in this thread or anything...
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Ah hell! :blushing:

In my defense, that video doesn't work for me in the thread so I had to load it in another tab. I didn't do that the first time I viewed. :(

It's kind of cool how that's the first video I thought of even without watching that video and how it was the first video posted in the thread. Hmm, maybe it was one of those great moments that no one talks about. Of course, that's the same PPV that Owen died at, right? Maybe that's why?

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Nah, that was the year after. I remember it because the OTE '99 opener (as I remember it from watching it on YouTube) was dark and satanic-like which was really eery in context.
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Jun 21 2010, 08:27 PM
Back when I was losing interest in wrestling, that little known company ROH was starting a feud with a rival promotion. At the time I thought it was one of the best things going even if it's only considered an Indy company.

Anyways I can't find the one promo that Cornette did, guess you have to pick up the dvd......think it was Hell Freezes Over but not sure. This is just one of the few that he cut that was was great.

I think you may have misunderstood the point of this thread.

EDIT: And yes, the Taker/Michaels stuff from this year was a rare jewel in the otherwise murky oil field that are current WWE promos. Good job Mr. Line for pointing that out. It deserves mention.

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I forget which WWF PPV it was, but it was right at the beginning of the Austin/McMahon feud. Back when Vince was still trying to get Austin to conform to his way. The PPV opening/teaser showed clips of...er, a military marching in conformity. And the voice over the video (a female voice, I believe) kept saying things like "You will conform" and "Conformity". I don't want to say that the video pointed Vince out to be Hitler, but um, yeah, that's the way I'm remembering it.


I think it was Moussilini (however you spell that). Back in the day when wrestling was original enough to be looked at as something cool and unique, instead of lame and gay.
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Jun 22 2010, 07:37 AM
I think you may have misunderstood the point of this thread.
Your title says "promo" rather than "PPV video promo"
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Because they're commonly known as promo's, MY85. That's why when you do a search for WWF promo on youtube, a great deal of the results concern exactly what we're talking about in this thread. And if that definition is still ambiguous (and it's not), I explained exactly what we were on about in the second sentence of this thread.

It's not my fault DERP...um, DAWP rather, didn't bother to read any posts before posting his reply, your honour.

I rest my case.
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Kame

When you say "promo" to a wrestling fan, they're immediately going to think of a backstage interview because that's what they've been called for years in the wrestling industry. Quite frankly, I was getting ready to post Dusty Rhodes' "Hard Times" promo almost immediately after reading the thread title, but then I realized that that wasn't the point of the thread after reading your message.

Honestly, don't try to argue this one out because you'll look like a complete and utter moron. There are thousands of resources backing up these claims all over the internet. What you're asking for inside this thread is called a wrestling "vignette", not a "promo". :wink:

If you're arguing this matter because D.A.W.P. failed to read anything in this thread before posting the Jim Cornette video, though, then touché. I understand why you'd feel pissed off.
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When you say "promo" to a wrestling fan, they're immediately going to think of a backstage interview because that's what they've been called for years in the wrestling industry. Quite frankly, I was getting ready to post Dusty Rhodes' "Hard Times" promo almost immediately after reading the thread title, but then I realized that that wasn't the point of the thread after reading your message.


Quite frankly Kamtesou, sir, your highness, I would (half) agree with your definition of a promo. However, there are two definitions of a promo as it relates to wrestling. The first is yours, the second is the subject of this thread. That's why I provided an explicit definition of what I was talking about in the second sentence of this thread. Charges against me for being unclear are entirely invalid.

Secondly, Kametsou, your majesty, your definition of a promo in regards to interviews is in fact wrong! There is no neccesity for a promo, in the sense of an interview, to be held backstage as you claim. It can be held in an arena, at home, in a ring, behind the annoucer's table - anywhere! In fact, it doesn't have to be an interview either. It can be a speech provided by one's own self without an impetus. A monologue or a soliloquy, for example.

Kametsou
 
Honestly, don't try to argue this one out because you'll look like a complete and utter moron.


Kametsou, don't take any offense to this (actually please do, because you sounded like an insipid dipshit in that last post you just made) but I don't really get the heeby jeebies from the threat of your e-arguing skills. Nor am I intimidated by the volume of shithouse indepedant turd mush that you've watched over recent history. I'm fairly confident in my knowledge of pro-wrestling, and further to that, I think I've proved over the course of five years here that while some of my views are entirely at odds with most members here (in relation to the entertainment value and creative direction of the WWE, in particular), that they're at least well thought out and mostly backed up by fact. If you want to challenge me, please, go right ahead.

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There are thousands of resources backing up these claims all over the internet. What you're asking for inside this thread is called a wrestling "vignette", not a "promo". :wink:


A wrestling vignette, as I was lead to believe by Mick Foley, is a scene that takes place on a wrestling show to provide background and/or drama towards a storyline. Be it an interview or a skit or a promo in your sense. I've never heard of a promo, in this context, being referred to as a vignette. But of course, I'm not a douchebag like you are, so I'm not going to go around suggesting that any given word is singularly defined by one specific meaning. I, unlike you, would suggest that the term vignette would probably have two definitions, such that any given thread on the subject of vignettes would probably do well to specifiy exactly what the thread was about. And hey, lo and behold, that's exactly what I did in this thread!

And if it's precedent you're after, enjoy. Here are twenty videos from youtube that use promo in the same sense that I do. I can provide more if you like!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29Di4S50yvY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrTAJzX_eLM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O13i6wzxqvE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IBFFwFMzRc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKd__z92TlI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C14oT3belk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cc_A7Tq73VY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4sirAwyqiI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nYLwrAtH-8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6I5F2Pl_q0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB8d3NXL-RI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysODYdxfU_o&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrfA43jQStk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toZuiE8fsd4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha9KUgJWV64
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkOg8ds_I7k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9ku2BG33l0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13dyrmaxyh0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKNkoW6Zk04&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_8IYEATV7I
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Jun 21 2010, 07:05 PM
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Jun 21 2010, 02:31 PM
Well, one of my favorites is the intro to WrestleMania XV. It's about the only thing I can't get off youtube. It was the one with Fred Blassie narrating, and where the whole "showcase of the immortals" tagline came from.
Are you sure you didn't mean WrestleMania X-Seven? I know Blassie narrated that one. If you did mean that one, it really is awesome. Gives me chills each time.

No, not that one.

I found a video, but can't transfer it. I can only post a link to the video.

Here it is:

WrestleMania XV Part 1

There's like a 30-second "commercial" before it starts, then it plays.



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So I assume these is mostly just ppv promos or rather WWF/E ones from Youtube? If so my bad. :damn:
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ITT: a sissy slap fight if only those dang couple thousand miles weren't in the way?

As an aside, I've always referred to the things like DAWP posted as promos (guys talking on a mic or to the camera) and the things this thread is about as video packages, vignettes, or video promos.
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Kame

Nebuchanezzar, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you because I know that I'll never get you to say that you're wrong. All I'm going to say is that the more common usage of the word, "promo", in wrestling terms is as a backstage interview, not as a hype video like the links you posted.

Below is an excerpt taken right from a "glossary of professional wrestling terms" article off of Wikipedia.
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Promo
a promotional interview (as in "cutting a promo"). Often includes either an "in-ring interview" or (on television) a skit by wrestlers and other performers to advance a storyline or feud.
And I'm done with this thread.
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SRP76
Jun 22 2010, 03:28 PM
I found a video, but can't transfer it. I can only post a link to the video.

Here it is:

WrestleMania XV Part 1

There's like a 30-second "commercial" before it starts, then it plays.



I remember that one and it was a good one. Didn't they play it on Raw a couple of times before or after the PPV? I remember it gave me chills at the time. Also, they used a lot of that footage of Blassie in his memorial tribute video (HERE, which incidentally is THE video/song responsible for making me an Evanescence fan).
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That's what I always thought. When I saw the Blassie tribute on SD (I think it was; they announced his death on Raw then had the video on SD or something), I wondered how they got those amazing shots of him going into the light and stuff. But then looking through videos such as the WM XV one as well as a video promoting the stars of the Attitude Era (I found it once but I'm not sure off the top of my head what it was called), it's obvious they had that footage for awhile.
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God damn that WrestleMania XV video was damn good. Gave me slight chills. Its videos like that where it really feels like wrestlers are bigger and more significant than just a bunch of guys wearing spandex.

I like that feeling.

BTW, I'm still watching that Mania (never seen XV so why not), and it feels so weird now for a PPV - ESPECIALLY a WrestleMania - to have a generic song as they welcome us to WrestleMania. So used to hearing Saliva or Papa Roach or some other mediocre rock song. It's refreshing and so far, I'm slightly depressed since this is making me REALLY miss the Attitude Era. :(
Edited by Satan II - The Revenge, Jun 22 2010, 11:12 PM.
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Jun 22 2010, 07:48 PM
Nebuchanezzar, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you because I know that I'll never get you to say that you're wrong. All I'm going to say is that the more common usage of the word, "promo", in wrestling terms is as a backstage interview, not as a hype video like the links you posted.

Below is an excerpt taken right from a "glossary of professional wrestling terms" article off of Wikipedia.
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Promo
a promotional interview (as in "cutting a promo"). Often includes either an "in-ring interview" or (on television) a skit by wrestlers and other performers to advance a storyline or feud.
And I'm done with this thread.
Kametsou, did you even read what I posted? I'll say it again, slowly. THERE. ARE. EVIDENTLY. TWO. USES. OF. THE. WORD. PROMO. Your wikipedia article backs that point up. It's a point I've held from the start, even when boneheaded morons like yourself come in here, all high and mighty, ready to "make me look like a moron" or whatever it was.

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Nebuchanezzar, I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you


That's usually code for, "I can't argue with you so I'll run away with my tail between my legs." In this case, it's also code for "I try to pretend like an expert on definitions only to make mistaken definitions myself."

And I do say I'm wrong - usually by not responding and hiding away. Like you're doing now. Like when that Satan bloke confronted my comparison of the NXT angle to that of the New Blood storyline.

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ITT: a sissy slap fight if only those dang couple thousand miles weren't in the way?


I think that discouraging robust discussion on a forum is probably the wrong thing to do...
Edited by Nubochanozep, Jun 22 2010, 11:47 PM.
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It's not a robust discussion. It's people calling eachother names and getting all in a huff over a silly name issue.

You guys aren't debating and you sure as hell aren't just discussing anything, you're arguing over something that is ridiculous. Seriously. This is on the level of two geeks getting into a screaming match over who is a better captain: Picard or Spock.

It's that argument about sausage/pepperoni all over again. :lol:
Edited by Satan II - The Revenge, Jun 22 2010, 11:49 PM.
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I guess we could all just sit here and list things and let that be that. That'd be exciting!

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You guys aren't debating and you sure as hell aren't just discussing anything, you're arguing over something that is ridiculous. Seriously. This is on the level of two geeks getting into a screaming match over who is a better captain: Picard or Spock.


It is debating. I had a point, I argued it well. Debating. It's been how this website has operated for like, idk, five years or whatever dude. That's how forums generally do operate.

EDIT: And to be fair, I had no intention of insulting Kametsou until he went and called me a moron.
Edited by Nubochanozep, Jun 22 2010, 11:52 PM.
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Pepperoni is a sausage. [/end]

The bad thing about that link that SRP provided is that it doesn't show the entire PPV. I was looking forward to seeing Austin vs Rock in probably their most forgotten WM match, but it isn't there. :sob:
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:lol: Oh god, I am not about to go into what, the third ARGUMENT you've had about a word in the past week?

OK IT WAS DEBATING. A PROMO IS A VIDEO PACKAGE. PEPPERONI ISN'T A SAUSAGE. YOUR E-PENIS IS THE GREATEST OF ALL. ALL HAIL NEB.

God... :lol:
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Pepperoni is a sausage. [/end]


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