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The Dark Knight Rises; Batman 3 film directed by Christopher Nolan
Topic Started: Dec 20 2008, 08:43 PM (3,350 Views)
Kame

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Eddie Murphy has not had the easiest run of late. Box office bomb Meet Dave followed critical derision for Norbit. Ed was so upset at failing to secure the best supporting actor gong for his work in Dreamgirls at the 2007 Oscars that he upped and quit the ceremony.

But nothing could have prepared Murphy for the insults hurled his way after he was named yesterday by The Sun as the new Riddler in Christopher Nolan's follow-up to The Dark Knight. Fans of the fourth-highest grossing film of all time have been quick to express their revulsion at the thought of Murphy in the role, while commentators have angrily dismissed the story as "more bullshit casting stories".

"There is not one shred of reality in any of these rumours," wrote Harry Knowles of US film geek bible Aint It Cool News. "If ANY OF YOU believe any of this bullshit, you have found some crazy awesome drugs and I would like to have some of what you're having."

Yikes. Why such anger over a mere casting rumour? Well the ire has been building slowly following a similar piece in the Mirror in August which made the unlikely claim that Cher was going to play Catwoman in Nolan's new film. The Murphy rumour was, it seems, the straw that broke the Batman's back. The story in yesterday's Sun also didn't help itself by suggesting that Shia LaBeouf would play Robin in the new film: apart from anything else, Nolan's hyper-modern take on the caped crusader would seem to rule out the installation of a camp sidekick best remembered from the kooky 1950s TV show and Joel Schumacher's much-loathed 1996 effort, Batman and Robin.

The article was further undermined when Murphy's representative told TV show Access Hollywood it was categorically "not true". Meanwhile, Nolan stayed tight-lipped on the subject during a webchat with fans, in which the only vaguely notable revelation seemed to be that Heath Ledger improvised the Joker's clapping during the Dark Knight scene in which Jim Gordon is made police commissioner of Gotham.

But why pontificate on just how unlikely it is that Murphy will ever don The Riddler's question-mark-emblazoned emerald spandex, when you can go straight to the source? The Sun's Gordon Smart told me this morning that he was standing by his story on the basis that it had come from a reliable contact – one responsible in 2005 for revealing to the world the then-unlikely casting of Daniel Craig as 007.

"Everyone had a crack at us when we published that one," said Smart. "I was almost laughed out of conference that day, but it turned out to be spot on. I wish I had had a bet on it."

Off the record, Smart revealed his precise source, and if we are to believe him, it would appear a pretty reliable one. It follows, then, that the rest of yesterday's story might also be falsehood-free.

So, on that basis, prepare yourself for a Dark Knight sequel in 2010 (despite the fact that Nolan hasn't even officially signed on yet for a third film) titled Gotham, featuring Murphy, LaBeouf and Bale, with Rachel Weisz as Catwoman. Gird your loins, also, for a cliffhanger denouement in which Wayne Towers is hit by a blast which may or may not have offed the Batman.
Edited by MakeYourself85, Oct 27 2010, 08:23 PM.
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Kraul

:blank: That would be a terrible, terrible move.
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I read this the other day but chalked it up to another crap rumor so I didn't post it. They way the first 2 movies have been cast and the crap in which Murphy's casting in the role would be, makes me think there is no chance for this. If they actually were thinking about it, they will rethink it now with all the backlash.
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I find this rumor as bullshit since it mentions Shia LaBeouf as Robin when Nolan doesn't want a Robin in the upcoming Batman films... but then again, they could use another director to make the film with Murphy and Shia. :uhoh:
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On a side note, I hate Shia LaBeouf. I'm getting so sick of him.
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^Yeah the guys a prick^

Last I heard about who was going to be the villains was that they wanted to to have both Penguin and Riddler.

Penguin - Philip Seymour Hoffman which I think would be a great choice
Riddler - Johnny Depp, which when asked said he wouldn't mind.
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Kame

I edited the topic title to make it more accurate. I completely missed the part where it said that LaBeouf was going to play the part of Robin. Real strange stuff, to say the least.
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I call complete bullshit on this rumor.
Anyway..I'd rather see Murphy as The Riddler than what's his face (Bale) as The Batman.
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You sir, are wrong...WRONG!!!
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Man...I seriously can't stand Bale. I simply can't get over it. And I've tried. I've watched The Dark Knight a few times now, and he ruins it for me every time. Other things in the movie pissed me off. But Bale completely ruined it.
Just my opinion.
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I hear that they will follow RIP Batman closely so Robin will be needed...
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Leviathan
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I'd prefer Damian Wayne to Robin. But that would screw too many people up.
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NONONONONONONOGODNONONONONWHYGODWHYNONONONO.

BS rumor.
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I'll take this rumor with a grain of salt for the moment. I'm pretty sure I even heard a rumor of Justin Timberlake being considered for The Joker role at one time. Which left me very much relieved when Ledger was officially cast, despite not being much of a fan of his at the time.
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Even as the late Heath Ledger is nominated posthumously for an Oscar and Golden Globe for his role as the Joker in The Dark Knight, there's buzz building about the next film, Fox News says on its Web site.

For instance, Britain's Sun newspaper reports that comic actor Eddie Murphy has been selected to become the Riddler, although it was widely speculated that Johnny Depp was up for the role.

Other actors rumored to be joining Christian Bale and Michael Caine in Christopher Nolan's next Batman film are Shia LeBeouf as loyal sidekick Robin and Rachel Weisz as the Catwoman.



If The Sun's reporting this, then it's got to be legitimate. I was honestly hoping that they'd put a hold on Robin for as long as they could. I'm not too happy with Murphy playing The Riddler, either. Depp could do such a better job.
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Then I gotta say fuck the Sun and their sources. Until Nolan comes out and publicly say Eddie "Raw" Murphy is the Riddler, then the role has yet to be cast.
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You know, if there's a fourth movie, they're going to recast the Joker? But let's all cry about Eddie Murphy. He is ACTUALLY a good actor who makes TERRIBLE choices but until this is confirmed...

I think I got an idea of the plot for three, a cross between RIP Batman and the Edward Nigma story starting at the Fountain of Youth 'cause who Riddler meets there could easily cross over to the story of Batman being anihilated.
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comic actor Eddie Murphy has been selected to become the Riddler, although it was widely speculated that Johnny Depp was up for the role.

I would hope Johnny Depp would get the part, myself. Don't get me wrong, I like some Eddie Murphie movies. But he's better in comedies like Shrek or Nutty Professor. Don't think he'd fit in with a Batman movie.
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I've thought about it and I'd actually like to see what Murphy could do with the role with it being more serious than his usual work, however I don't think it would be worth risking it on such a high profile movie. It brings to mind some of Jim Carrey's later work, for example where he played Walter Sparrow in The Number 23.. a comic actor, turning serious.. and he managed to do an excellent job of it in my opinion. I know a lot of people hated the film.. but screw them, it was good.
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Maybe, but it was hardly Jim Carrey 's first "serious" role.

What's Eddie Murphy's mos serious role been? Beverly Hills Cop? The Golden Child? :lol:
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Just because it might be one of his first major serious roles, it doesn't mean he has any worse a chance of pulling it off than Carrey did. Trial and error is the only way to find out.
Edited by Resolve, Dec 22 2008, 12:03 AM.
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I think once you get typecast you're a gonna until someone gives you the chance to do something.

I just can't think why Murphy keeps making these god awful movies when at one time he was the funniest MF'er alive. I mean, yeah...he makes a good movie every now and then, his last one was Dreamgirls, he was excellent but what happened? He made Dave.
Edited by Vampiro Americano, Dec 22 2008, 11:32 AM.
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The misconception with the character is that the Riddler is not funny. Like the Joker in the latest films, the Riddler is a genius that is cold and calculating. Jim Carrey and the old Adam West series is NOT how the character will be portrayed in a new film. So, casting a guy like Eddie Murphy would be a terrible move.
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Like The Riddler seen in Batman: The Animated Series. He was completely serious.
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Dec 22 2008, 05:31 PM
The misconception with the character is that the Riddler is not funny. Like the Joker in the latest films, the Riddler is a genius that is cold and calculating. Jim Carrey and the old Adam West series is NOT how the character will be portrayed in a new film. So, casting a guy like Eddie Murphy would be a terrible move.
When mentioning Jim Carrey I wasn't referring to his portrayal of The Riddler in Batman Forever, as I know that was meant to be a comedic part.. I actually think Eddie Murphy could make a decent go of making The Riddler a serious character. He is a good actor, despite some of the poor choices in roles and movies he has obviously made.. every actor has his bad moments. Just the fact that he plays mostly comedic characters only means that he's typecast, it doesn't mean that he can't handle a serious role. It means the audience can't handle him in a serious role.. which is why I don't know if The Riddler would be the best place for him to try it out. I still reckon he could handle the part well though.
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I'll just say maybe to the idea that he could do it seriously. But, I still think there are a lot better people to cast in the role.

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Buried in yesterday's Comics2Film roundup was our agreement that all of the recent casting rumors around 'The Dark Knight' sequel are bogus.

Why do we say this?

On December 8th Christopher Nolan told a major national newspaper he's begun thinking about an outline for the third movie, but he's far from moving forward with developing it. He's got notes jotted down but none that he's willing to commit to.

Then, in yesterday's roundup we showed a video from Collider.com in which Warner Bros. chief Alan Horne said they are simply waiting for Nolan before doing anything with the sequel.

No movement. No story from Nolan. No villains and no casting!

Still this link to a story in the UK tabloid paper THE SUN keeps ending up in our inbox. The story there claims Eddie Murphy and others have been signed for the sequel. They state it as if its a fact, but it is not a fact.

It's important to remember that, in the opinion of this writer, based on what I've seen from the paper over the last decade, The Sun's entertainment reporting is the equivalent to the Weekly World News here in the U.S. and this story is simply not true.
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I have to agree, the Sun is awful. Their entertainment reporter is a small-time hack.

I'm just going to argue that Eddie Murphy wouldn't be the worst choice. The Riddler was also tortured inside, I hate what Batman Forever and Batman and Robin did to the franchise. I think Joel Shumacher should be tried and jailed for rape.

Anyway, I think the speculation is fun and wish people weren't so serious...
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Dec 22 2008, 06:34 PM
and wish people weren't so serious...
:shifty:

I am so tempted...

:x:
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I thought Carrey was okay as Riddler, but nothing spectacular or better than Nicholson and DeVito.

Off-topic: How good or bad is the Dreamgirls movie?
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Dec 22 2008, 06:40 PM
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and wish people weren't so serious...
:shifty:

I am so tempted...

:x:
Say it. I dare you.

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Off-topic: How good or bad is the Dreamgirls movie?

I watched it, and I can say that the movie is just average IMO.
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