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| Raw Discussion 10/03/11; HIAC Fallout | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 3 2011, 07:32 PM (721 Views) | |
| _DL_ | Oct 3 2011, 07:32 PM Post #1 |
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| Purple Marauder | Oct 3 2011, 10:30 PM Post #2 |
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Moments later, Stone Cold shived Triple in the back! |
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| _DL_ | Oct 4 2011, 01:15 AM Post #3 |
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GOTTA KEEP ORTON STRONG. |
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| Purple Marauder | Oct 4 2011, 01:32 AM Post #4 |
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Why does Cody talk like that? He sounds so stupid. I guess we can see one SS team. Miz and Truth stealing CM Punk's gimmick he stole from the NWO. Edited by Purple Marauder, Oct 4 2011, 01:37 AM.
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| _DL_ | Oct 4 2011, 02:03 AM Post #5 |
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Surprising they're showing this much footage from a recent PPV. |
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| Sir Shorty | Oct 4 2011, 02:50 AM Post #6 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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I started watching Raw from the beginning (I'll flip it on from time to time but get bored and change it to something else) but so far...I have yet to change the channel. It's been a decent Raw so far. Though the tag team match was predictable as far as the outcome as I knew Cena's side was going to win. Now awaiting Triple H to come out. |
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| _DL_ | Oct 4 2011, 03:08 AM Post #7 |
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Dat ending. |
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| Sir Shorty | Oct 4 2011, 03:14 AM Post #8 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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So evidently Triple H is doing something the fans like as they were fully behind him. Can someone sort of fill me in as to what everyone is pissed off about at Triple H? I'm still a bit in the dark here... |
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| _DL_ | Oct 4 2011, 03:33 AM Post #9 |
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They're all afraid of two people attacking them basically. |
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| SRP76 | Oct 4 2011, 03:41 AM Post #10 |
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Totally dumb. Don't see where this can possibly have a decent point at the end. And what exactly is the point of "ALL" the WWE superstars going out there when we know fucking well that Cena and Punk are absent since we JUST SAW THEM? That's pathetic. Quite frankly, it was pretty much just heels and jobbers. Gee, couldn't see how that would turn out, right? And of course, all these geeks will still turn up on Smackdown, despite "walking out". Sorry, at least Punk walked out for more than a fucking day, people. Or, sorry, 4 days, if we're pretending Smackdown's live. As for Survivor Series, how are they going to cram 20 guys onto a 5-man "anti-Triple H" team? If they're looking to do that, there should be a clear-cut 10 guys involved, NO MORE. Oh, and I meant to say it yesterday: the real IC belt is nice. Too bad we don't get a real champion to carry it. |
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| Sir Shorty | Oct 4 2011, 03:47 AM Post #11 |
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I kinda of like the idea of Truth and Miz teaming together. It's an unlikely duo and it interests me to be honest. But if that's the reason, come on now, lol.
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| Purple Marauder | Oct 4 2011, 04:34 AM Post #12 |
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Come on people. I think it should be obvious. Vince McMahon was "fired". He is pulling the strings to undermine Triple H. Eventually, there will be a core group, probably Cena, Punk and the like that will side with Triple H while the heels side with Vince and the SS match will be for control of the company. |
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| Lionheart | Oct 4 2011, 04:50 AM Post #13 |
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It's not fair to Awesome Truth though. Cena was allowed to come out and attack Nexus every week last year and he got his job back. They're only following Cena's example. |
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| _DL_ | Oct 4 2011, 05:01 AM Post #14 |
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Clearly only good guys are allowed to do that
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| Cybrus | Oct 4 2011, 06:46 AM Post #15 |
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Three guys, actually. Nash interfered at Night of Champions even though he was fired. Miz and Truth interfered at HIAC even though they were fired.
This is my thinking too. If you'll remember back, it was Vince McMahon that introduced John L as an on screen character at MITB when he brought John L out to stop the Cena/Punk match. The very next night, Vince was "fired" from his own company. Ever since then, John L. has been a regular on TV. We often see him looking over his shoulder texting in a sneaky manner. This is him getting his orders from Vince McMahon. Furthermore, the people aligned with Vince McMahon are the guys that have been fired by Triple H. So far, it's Nash, Miz, and Truth...but there will be more. This explains how those guys are getting into the events to attack people (Vince is telling John L. to let them in) and why there are no actions taken against them for attacking wrestlers when they are essentially fans/former employees. Vince is the mastermind behind it. I don't think this is going to come to a head at Survivor Series, though. I think Triple H will accuse John L. of trying to take over but not connect that someone is pulling John L's strings (some Cerebral Assassin, huh?). I think the Survivor Series main event is going to be Team Triple H vs Team John L. Triple H will have Rock, Cena, Punk, someone else and maybe himself against Nash, Miz, Truth and 2 more guys. But the storyline will ultimately go one longer. All the way until WM, possibly.
You and Purple Marauder need to get your receptions check out. Cody Rhodes is an excellent mid card Champion and is a great candidate to bring back the old school/classic IC Title design. He has a unique delivery that separates him from everyone else (seriously, all the guys in the big Raw promo sounded exactly the same except Cody, who actually stood out), he can wrestle, he's over, and he has a gimmick. This cannot be said about most of the mid carders in WWE. As far as the belt, they actually did a little bit of redesign. Look at the the actual classic belt and the gold on the main plate was kind of smooth and shiny. The current one has that World Title kind of mesh-up (don't know how to describe it) so it isn't completely smooth. Also, the side plates were redesigned as well. They are actually a bit on the small side, but that's a minor complaint. So the fact that they went out of their way to touch up the design of the Classic IC Title makes me think this is the permanent IC Title from hereon out. Otherwise, they could have just brought back the old IC Title as it was, put the WWE Logo over the WWF logo and been done with it. Old IC vs New IC
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| MY85 | Oct 4 2011, 06:48 AM Post #16 |
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Ditto. ![]() Orton does an RKO to McIntyre after the match is over, the announcers don't question him. Henry does the WSS to Morrison after the match is over, Booker questions it and Cole retaliates why Booker didn't say the same about Orton.
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| Lionheart | Oct 4 2011, 12:42 PM Post #17 |
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I agree with Cy concerning Cody Rhodes. He's actually one of my favorites on SD! right now. Yeah, he goes overboard with the monotone voice sometimes, but he really stands out as a midcard champion and doesn't come off as a paper weight like it did with so many other wrestlers (Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler, etc.) And although I'm not the biggest fan of Triple H hijacking CM Punk's story, at the same time I love that a lot of midcarders/upper midcarders like Cody, Dolph, Truth, and Miz are getting more exposure through it. And I can't believe I'm saying it, but I'm loving Mark Henry's monster push. |
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| Purple Marauder | Oct 4 2011, 04:32 PM Post #18 |
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I never said that Cody was a bad midcard guy nor a bad IC champion. I said he sounds like an idiot when he talks and I wish he would shut up. And what does "get your receptions check out" even mean? |
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| Cableguy15 | Oct 4 2011, 04:44 PM Post #19 |
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Is no one else astounded with how stupid this storyline has turned out? It started out as CM Punk being on fire with great promos, turns to slight disappointment as we find out Nash is involved, turns to huge disappointment when Punk loses to HHH, thus cooling him off, turns to extreme disappointment when Punk becomes the third wheel of the Del Rio/Cena feud, and finally turns to absolutely impossible amounts of disappointment when we see this was all leading up to a damned HHH storyline where Punk is now one of the voiceless he was talking about, because he hasn't said a damn thing in over a week now. Seriously, how the hell can they ruin something that started out so good? How the FUCK do they make this about HHH? It's pretty annoying. I also couldn't help but imagine JR's mindset when he was the last one to leave HHH's side: "That's for attacking me back in 2001, you government muel." ![]() |
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| Cybrus | Oct 4 2011, 05:19 PM Post #20 |
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It means you should have stuck with Dish, you traitor! Have fun with a company that has tripled their rates in the last few years. ![]()
Do you mean how it sounds like he's having a hard time breathing/swallowing while wearing that mask? Or do you mean the things he actually says? |
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| _DL_ | Oct 4 2011, 06:05 PM Post #21 |
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Cody sounds like an old man when he talks. |
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| Purple Marauder | Oct 5 2011, 02:03 AM Post #22 |
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I mean he sounds like Niedermeyer's retarded brother. The mask he wears is irrelevant as are the actual things he says. |
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| SRP76 | Oct 5 2011, 03:59 AM Post #23 |
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I'll say it outright: Cody Rhodes sucks. People are just so used to shitty characters and average performers that they're willing to accept this loser. He has maybe 10% of Goldust's talent, and he wasn't really good. And Aldo Montoya wants his jockstrap back, Cody. You suck. Drop the belt. |
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| Cybrus | Oct 5 2011, 11:50 AM Post #24 |
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Cody Rhodes most certainly does not suck. Perhaps you are just so used to criticizing everything WWE does that you just cannot recognize something good when you see it. Cody Rhodes is a talented worker in the ring, he's solid on the mic, and he's over. He's an ideal IC Champion. He should not be pushed higher up the card than he currently is, but he will be at that point in the future. He's one of the very few breakout stars of the past year. That said, I can see where the criticism about his delivery style comes into play. He does have a very unique delivery style when he speaks. I personally like it, but I could see why others wouldn't. He speaks almost as if he's inhaling and swallowing right as he's starting to talk. I think this is just a part of his gimmick and I think he does it well. Like I said previously, he's one of the very few midcarders that stands out and is recognizable from everyone else. |
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| SRP76 | Oct 5 2011, 06:20 PM Post #25 |
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There, you agree. Cody sucks. Thanks.
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| Cableguy15 | Oct 5 2011, 10:04 PM Post #26 |
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| Cybrus | Oct 5 2011, 10:16 PM Post #27 |
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Yeah, only I offered actual reasons for my opinion whereas you are just repeating 2 words.
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| SRP76 | Oct 5 2011, 10:27 PM Post #28 |
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Bullshit. I gave (or at least thought I had in the past) plenty of reason why Cody is not a deserving IC chamion. - He's NOT over. If Del Rio isn't over, Cody sure as fuck isn't, because he's way more over than Rhodes. - He has 10% of the charisma of his mediocre brother. - An utterly generic look, other than the jockstrap on his face, which just makes it WORSE. - Crappy promos that put everyone to sleep. - A gimmick ripped off from women in another company, that he doesn't even use most of the time (though that's not entirely his fault, he just does what he's told). And most of all, bringing back the oldschool belt makes it even worse. I hold anyone with that belt to higher standard than the "oval reign" geeks. At least I could stomach him being in the same ranks as losers like Kofi Kingston and Drew McIntyre and Road Dogg, but to step into the greatness that is Don Muraco, Randy Savage, and Mr. Perfect?! Fuck NO! If it weren't for the existence of the "World Heavyweight" title, the whole Mark Henry thing would be ideal for an IC program now. Not a Cody Rhodes-level program. |
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| Cybrus | Oct 5 2011, 10:45 PM Post #29 |
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Cody Rhodes is over. The difference between Cody Rhodes and Del Rio is that Cody Rhodes is a mid card performer and Del Rio is pushed as a main eventer. If Del Rio were pushed as a mic card act, then he'd be more over. He gets enough reaction to be a mid card performer. I read the live attendance reports that get sent into prowrestling.net occasionally and Cody is always mentioned for how over he is. I'm not sure, exactly, what you are watching.
I'll give you the bag similarity between Cody Rhodes and The Beautiful People. I'm not a fan of the bag treatment either. However, while they use the same thing their gimmicks are very different. TBP thought they were prettier than everyone and that everyone that isn't pretty should be covered up. They would cleanse the world one ugly person at a time. This is not Cody's gimmick. Cody's gimmick is that he was disfigured by Rey Mysterio (hence the mask) and he thinks he's hideous because of this. Cody encourages the fans to wear a bag over their face to hide their own hideousness the same as he's hiding his own.
Yeah, because no one with lower caliber talent than a Randy Savage or Mr. Perfect ever wore the classic design, huh? I guess The Mountie, Diesel, Dean Douglas, Marc Mero, Ahmed Johnson, and the Texas Tornado's reigns never counted, huh? Cody bringing back the Classic IC Title design makes perfect sense and makes more sense than any random guy bringing it back. Cody's gimmick is about making things over. He hides his face to cover his disfigured face. He encourages the fans to cover up their ugly faces. He's all about hiding the ugly and replacing it with something better. The oval IC Title was hideous. He put it in a paper bag and replaced it with something better looking.
Disagreed, as previously explained.
Dustin Rhodes was only charismatic as Goldust. It was the only gimmick that he could ever bring to live and get over. He absolutely sucked without the Goldust gimmick. So it's not so much that he was the more talented brother as much as he had the better gimmick.
I'll agree with the generic look. Cody's look doesn't really stand out from anyone else, but that's true for almost everyone in WWE. Everyone really looks the same. Cody doesn't wear knee braces, which I personally just find annoying. However, his mask is gold. It's a clear mask used to cover up his disfigured face. His face is clearly not disfigured and CLEAR mask lets everyone see that. It's absolute genius. It's a great heel tactic that lets fans yell at him that he's not disfigured. Plus, it allows him to cheat in his matches by taking the mask off and using it as a weapon. The clear mask is definitely a perk to the Cody Rhodes package. Once again, Cody Rhodes is currently one of the best (if not THE best) mid carders in WWE. Character, mic skills, ring skills, and he's over. Granted, his mic skills isn't good enough to be a main eventer and he's not over at the main event level either. But for where he's positioned on the card, everything is as it should be. |
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| SRP76 | Oct 5 2011, 11:30 PM Post #30 |
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You know I'll call you on that one! Sure, there was some lesser talent involved. But you used some bad examples. 1. Mountie. Come on, this was your classic definition of transitional champion. He had the belt for two days, and got it solely to take it off Bret Hart (HOF) and put it on Roddy Piper (HOF). This is not the same situation. 2. Dean Douglas. Same as above. Held the belt for half an hour, at most, to get it off HBK and onto Razor Ramon. Didn't carry the title. 3. Diesel. WHAT?! Where were you in 1994? Diesel was a MONSTER, and people bought him as such. Remember the crowd going fucking nuts as he pitched guys out at the Royal Rumble? He was legitimately over huge. He was getting cheers at KOTR even against Bret freaking Hart! He was a legit champ that people bought into big-time. That's why he got the WWF title just a few months down the line. 4. Texas Tornado. Kerry Von Erich was a massively over superstar everywhere outside the WWF, and a former NWA World Champion. Definitely worthy of the IC title. And he lost it back to Mr. P in short order, anyway. Mero and Ahmed, I'll grant you. But I say Mero with Sable was a much better act than Cody Rhodes is. AHmed, maybe not, but they took the belt off him pretty quickly because of it. |
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