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WWE Vengeance; October 23rd, 2011
Topic Started: Oct 11 2011, 02:46 AM (1,238 Views)
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WWE Vengeance

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Last Man Standing Match
John Cena vs. WWE Champion Alberto Del Rio

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World Heavyweight Champion Mark Henry vs. Big Show

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CM Punk & Triple H vs. The Miz & R-Truth

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United States Champion Dolph Ziggler vs. Zack Ryder

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Randy Orton vs. Intercontinental Champion Cody Rhodes

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WWE Tag Team Championship Match

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Divas Champion Beth Phoenix vs. Eve

Card Subject To Change
Edited by _DL_, Oct 22 2011, 04:06 AM.
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Purple Marauder
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I can already tell this card is going to be terrible. Although I find it somewhat nice to see that it appears as if Randy Orton will be fighting Cody. It had better be for the IC title too!
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If they make the match and it's not for the IC Title then you know Orton is going to win, without question.

John Cena vs Alberto Del Rio for the WWE Title
and
Triple H/CM Punk vs Miz/Truth

were both added to the card by John L tonight on Raw.
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MY85
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Cybrus
Oct 11 2011, 06:53 AM
If they make the match and it's not for the IC Title then you know Orton is going to win, without question.
He could win by DQ or countout and stll not win the IC Title.
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Yes, but what I'm saying is that if they make the match Cody vs Orton and not have the title on the line, then it's a clear message that they aren't going to let Cody go over in a big way. It'll be Orton's match to make up for losing to Henry 2 PPVs in a row. But if they make the IC Title look important by having Orton work a IC Title match, then both Cody and the title are elevated.
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Or maybe before the PPV, Cody loses the title to someone like Sin Cara or Daniel Bryan and the Orton-Rhodes match ends up being a non-title match. Eventually, WWE might push Cody to the World Title scene.
Edited by MY85, Oct 11 2011, 07:03 AM.
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Why would WWE put the IC Title on the human botch machine or the guy they regret putting the MITB on? The best thing would be for them to keep Cody as the IC Champion for another 6-8 months, have him get credible wins over big names like Orton, and slowly build him up. That way, when they do elevate Cody to the main event (if they ever do), then the fans will have time to accept him at that level.
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Was not aware that the Tag team match was made official for the PPV.
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Why would you people want to see Orton win the Intercontinental Title????!!!
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Why would you people want to see Orton win the World Title????!!!
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Oct 11 2011, 07:00 AM
But if they make the IC Title look important by having Orton work a IC Title match, then both Cody and the title are elevated.
This.
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Is the Orton/Rhodes match for the IC title?
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Orton and Rhodes will not be for the IC belt. What would a 8 time World Champ need a IC title shot for?

Shitty PPV except for the fact that Trips is wrestling. Therfore spend your money monkeys.
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Oct 21 2011, 12:29 AM
Orton and Rhodes will not be for the IC belt. What would a 8 time World Champ need a IC title shot for?

Losing in a title match to Rhodes would make Cody look legit. Which he isn't, no matter what Cybrus wants. Cody sucks.

And even if it were a title defense, and even if Rhodes won, he'd STILL be a charismaless, monotone-speaking, tighty-whities (black or not) -wearing chump that sucks. I hope Orton kills him. As in, takes him off tv forever, so that title can't be tarnished by this joke's reign any longer.
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Yes we all know Cody Rhodes sucks. He was given a good character, and he sucks at it. However hes just as good as all the other guys in I-C division. Itll be a non title squash match for Orton until he gets back in the title hunt next month or the month after. Depending on wether or not they wanna keep dragging on this last hurah of Mark Henry.
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Well, if MiZark gets by Big Show, I'd guess "Revenge of Kane" will be next for him. So without an IC title on the line to feud with the loser Cody, what's there for Orton to do for the next few months?

I guess he might jump to Raw to join the Triple H-evil GM war.
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I'm sure Orton will be part of that big tag team match with Rock and Cena for Survivor Series along with Punk and Trips.
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Oct 21 2011, 01:10 AM
Which he isn't, no matter what Cybrus wants. Cody sucks.
Cody Rhodes is the best mid carder WWE currently has. I've already proven this and proven you wrong otherwise. Just accept it and move on already. :tu:

As far as why would a former World Champion go after the IC Title, I've already explained it a little but I'll go into more detail. We've seen former World Champions go after and win the IC Championship in the past. As a recent example, we saw Triple H win the IC Title when he was paired with World Champion Stone Cold. By having a former World Champion hold the IC Title, it elevates the title...and the IC title desperately needs to be elevated after the way WWE has treated it for the past decade. A former World Champion holding the IC Title makes it look important and prestigious, and it also helps elevate whomever beats him for the IC Title and makes it look like that person is just a few key matches away from going for the World Championship. It's a win all the way around. As for why a World Champion would want the IC Title in the first place, well, that's usually due to personal reasons. Orton and Cody have a rivalry. Orton wants to humiliate Cody, so he takes what Cody values the most: The IC Title. It's very simple logic.
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Updated to reflect this week's Smackdown.
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This is without a doubt the most uninteresting card in the recent string of PPVs. I just don't see any match that has any kind of must-see outcome. WWE is just coasting until Rock returns in a few weeks.

Is anyone planning on watching tonight? If I'm online I'll watch, but it won't bother me a bit if I miss it. I am going to try to be online though. Everyone should join me. We can all watch it together. :grin:
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MY85
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I think I might see it.
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I suppose I'll watch it. But this is honestly the most lackluster card since Capitol Punishment. The only match I'm truly interested in is Cody Rhodes vs Randy Orton.
Edited by Lionheart, Oct 23 2011, 06:11 PM.
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MY85
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Tag team match starts the show.
Bourne pins Ziggler via SSP.

Ryder-Ziggler takes place now.
Ziggler retains via Superkick.
Edited by MY85, Oct 24 2011, 12:29 AM.
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Just got online. Only missed the two Ziggler matches? I so I've missed nothing then! :)
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Eve and Beth had a surprisingly good match. Eve's been holding out on us.
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Oct 24 2011, 12:40 AM
Just got online. Only missed the two Ziggler matches? I so I've missed nothing then! :)
Huh?

Well, Beth defeated Eve.

Christian vs. Sheamus is next.
Edited by MY85, Oct 24 2011, 12:46 AM.
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Tuned in just to see Eve miss the moonsault and Beth to capitalize and get the win.

Big Show as a challenger for the World Title does not interest me. Big Show does not interest me. And Mark Henry isn't good enough to make Big Show interesting like Orton made him interesting. If this is the path WWE is going to go with the World Title, then I'd rather they just put it back on Orton. Yeah, it's repetitive but at least Orton is interesting and can make others interesting.

The HBK/Hart DVD looks good. I'm tired of the Montreal Screwjob stuff, but if this is the final thing they ever do then it could be good. The fact that the DVD is called "The Greatest Rivalries" makes me wonder if this is the first DVD of a series focusing on great rivalries.

Sheamus vs Christan. A match so bland, unforgettable, and unimportant that it didn't even make it on our KIA. :lol:
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Oct 24 2011, 12:46 AM
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Oct 24 2011, 12:40 AM
Just got online. Only missed the two Ziggler matches? I so I've missed nothing then! :)
Huh?
Where did i lose you at? I think Ziggler is an over pushed waste of time. They have been trying so hard for so long to get this guy over and it isn't working. Without Vickie, this guy gets no heat. Also, I don't care about Air Boom or Ryder so neither of those matches interested me any.
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Have you read the bolded parts Cybrus. A guy whose second language is English is schooling you in English man. :lol:
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Ah, I missed that part. Bolding doesn't really show up too well on this them. :-/

Simple typo. I went to type "I haven't really missed anything" and changed to "So I haven't really missed anything" and just didn't delete the "I" that I started with. :lol:
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