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WWE Survivor Series Discussion Thread; November 20th, 2011
Topic Started: Nov 1 2011, 04:24 AM (999 Views)
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WWE Survivor Series

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John Cena & The Rock vs. The Miz & R-Truth

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World Heavyweight Champion Mark Henry vs. Big Show

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WWE Champion Alberto Del Rio vs. CM Punk

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Team Orton vs. Team Barrett (5-on-5 Traditional Survivor Series Tag Team Match)

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United States Champion Dolph Ziggler vs. John Morrison

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Lumberjill Match
Divas Champion Beth Phoenix vs. Eve



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Edited by _DL_, Nov 19 2011, 05:19 AM.
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This may very well be the biggest match of R-Truth's career (Miz headlined WM), but this match is going to do nothing for Miz and Truth. This is all about furthering the tension between Rock and Cena. They could have put anyone in the ring against them. And considering how weak WWE books Miz and Truth, they really are just putting anyone in the ring with them. :-/
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Looks like we have our traditional Survivor Series match, Team Orton vs. Team Barrett.
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WWE.com is reporting that Christian is out of Survivor Series after suffering a high ankle sprain while on the European tour. The story notes no replacement has been announced. You can read the story at http://www.wwe.com/shows/survivorseries/2011/christian-injured-out-of-survivior-series.


AJ just wrestled at Turning Point with a badly sprained ankle. I'm just saying.
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Card updated to reflect this week's Smackdown.
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I hope that Team Bring It & Team Rise Above Hate/Puberty will put over the awesome truths. Rock and Cena need to turn on each other so awesome truth can pick up the win and brag about it later. I really hope that the bookers will not be blind fools like they usually are.
Edited by Henry_Townshend, Nov 21 2011, 12:02 AM.
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Is the Rock broke?
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Why?
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Nov 20 2011, 07:50 PM
Is the Rock broke?
The man has a net value of $65 million. All his bones seem fine. I suppose he could be emotionally broke, but he seems fine enough.
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I'm not sure If I am going to sit here and watch this. I just don't give a crap about WWE at this point. There is no match I really want to see.
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I would just have never thought we'd see him wrestle ever again.
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Who?
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Ryder chants interrupting a match. Ryder, your peak has been reached!

I don't see why they had John L start the PPV just to say he's been with WWE for 10 years.
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Nov 21 2011, 01:10 AM
I don't see why they had John L start the PPV just to say he's been with WWE for 10 years.
Probably setting up some stupid storyline later on.
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Nov 21 2011, 01:08 AM
Who?
Dwayne.
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Has anyone else noticed that the name plate on the US Title is blank? Do they do that for all the images (so they can just copy/paste the title onto the current champion) or is this some kind of sign?

The nameplate is blank on the WWE Title as well. Must be what they do for the title images.
Edited by Cybrus, Nov 21 2011, 01:17 AM.
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Perfection.
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How much you want to bet Ryder comes out for an impromptu US Title match and wins the belt.
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Nov 20 2011, 04:14 PM
I hope that Team Bring It & Team Rise Above Hate/Puberty will put over the awesome truths. Rock and Cena need to turn on each other so awesome truth can pick up the win and brag about it later. I really hope that the bookers will not be blind fools like they usually are.
That's pretty dumb. You don't send the fans home pissed off that the good guys lost. AGAIN.

The heroes don't always have to get beat. The real world is shitty enough. Entertainment is supposed to a way to escape that, not have it rubbed in.
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The good guys lost again? When did they lose the first time? Cena has been dominating Miz and Truth on Raw all month. Rock and Cena beat down Miz and Truth on Raw before Survivor Series. The heels have zero heat going into this match.

The best outcome for this match is for Rock or Cena to turn on the other. That's the entire reason this match exists. One will turn on the other and keep the build to their WM match going. Hopefully, the turn happens at the end of the match so Miz and Truth can get a victory, but it could happen after the match as well. Either way, people are talking about Rock and Cena tomorrow, not Miz or Truth.
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Nov 21 2011, 01:24 AM
The good guys lost again? When did they lose the first time?
Not those particular two.

I'm talking about the CONSTANT clamor for heels winning. They don't always have to fucking win. Bad guys exist to lose, in fiction. Like I said, if I want evil fuckbags taking everything, I'll just look out a window, not pay 70 bucks to see it on tv.

And quite frankly, nobody would buy Awesme Truth. They're funny, but wake up. Neither of them is even within TEN ladder-rungs of either Cena or Rock, and never will be. You may as well have Leaping Lanny Poffo beating Andre the Giant. It's just stupid and unrealistic.
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I would like to do very naughty things to Eve. And by "naughty things", I mean sexual things.
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Nov 21 2011, 01:29 AM
Bad guys exist to lose, in fiction.
You are partially right. The correct way to say that is that bad guys exist to lose at the right time. You have to let your bad guys win and build them up so that when they finally do lose to the right good guy that it makes for a great moment. If the bad guy is always losing, then it means nothing to beat them.

Not that it matters. This match is all about Rock and Cena. Miz and Truth are just bodies in the ring to get to the big Cena/Rock moment at the end of the match. It could have been anybody.

GlamSlam off the top of the rope was as good of a finish as you'll ever get from a Diva match. It as cool.
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I would like to do very naughty things to Eve. And by "naughty things", I mean sexual things.


Pervert Marauder strikes again. :lol:
Edited by SRP76, Nov 21 2011, 01:32 AM.
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I'm already sick of Rock.

Another reason why MSG sucks.
Edited by Purple Marauder, Nov 21 2011, 01:34 AM.
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I just read that Beth Phoenix hit the Glam Slam on Eve from the top rope. How did it look? Sounds super dangerous.
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Nov 21 2011, 01:31 AM
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Nov 21 2011, 01:29 AM
Bad guys exist to lose, in fiction.
You are partially right. The correct way to say that is that bad guys exist to lose at the right time. You have to let your bad guys win and build them up so that when they finally do lose to the right good guy that it makes for a great moment. If the bad guy is always losing, then it means nothing to beat them.

How long has Truth and Miz been beating down people and running rampant? Since JULY! That's FOUR MONTHS! Killing Cena, Del Rio, C.M. Punk, others along the way. It's about time they get stopped, right?

If they beat the two biggest, greatest under-contract WWE Superstars of all time, you know what yu get? A shitty NWO situation. With two guys that quite frankly aren't worthy, no less. Who wants that?

We're sure to get "the turn" after the match, anyway. So no need for the fans to see the heroes get killed.

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Nov 21 2011, 01:40 AM
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Nov 21 2011, 01:31 AM
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Nov 21 2011, 01:29 AM
Bad guys exist to lose, in fiction.
You are partially right. The correct way to say that is that bad guys exist to lose at the right time. You have to let your bad guys win and build them up so that when they finally do lose to the right good guy that it makes for a great moment. If the bad guy is always losing, then it means nothing to beat them.

How long has Truth and Miz been beating down people and running rampant? Since JULY! That's FOUR MONTHS! Killing Cena, Del Rio, C.M. Punk, others along the way. It's about time they get stopped, right?
Have you been watching WWE for the last 4 months? Miz and Truth got maybe one or two good beat downs, but have been made to look like shit heels at every single turn. Even when they interfered in the HIAC match and got a good beat down, they immediately lost their heat when Triple H beat the shit out of them immediately afterward. Miz and Truth have been made to look irrelevant. They had a great start, but that was quickly botched. Pay a little attention before you go on such illogical rants.
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Nov 21 2011, 01:40 AM
I just read that Beth Phoenix hit the Glam Slam on Eve from the top rope. How did it look? Sounds super dangerous.
The top rope glamslam looked great. It was a pretty move all around. But it didn't look dangerous.

Sin Cara wearing white and Cody Rhodes wearing knee pads. Night of changes at Survivor Series, fellas. Oh, wait, Sin Cara botched another move and hurt himself. Guess not many changes afterall.
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Rhodes went from Dr. Doom to a White Lantern.
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