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Raw Discussion 11/21/11; Survivor Series Fallout
Topic Started: Nov 21 2011, 08:06 PM (339 Views)
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Cena Gets Rocked

Not only did The Rock score the pin over R-Truth in his tag bout against The "Awesome Truth," but he nailed his WrestleMania opponent, John Cena, with a resounding Rock Bottom after the match.
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I'm hoping they let CM Punk have a meaningful WWE Title run this time. I would love to see him hang onto the belt until WM. They are building towards the next TLC PPV. Henry vs Show will be the Chairs match. Del Rio vs Punk will either be the Ladder match or the actual TLC match.
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Great Raw with a crap ending.
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I wonder if they are having Del Rio vs Punk on Raw next week to quickly move Del Rio out of the title picture or if it is just a set up for their TLC match.

R-Truth is face again, I'm assuming. Truth and Miz feuding with each other should be entertaining to watch, but i'm not sure how it'll help either. I mean, both need a win after being made to look utterly irrelevant against Cena and Rock.

Cena had probably the worst response to Rock hitting the Rock-Bottom on him that WWE could think of. So, basically, they aren't going to respond to it at all and are going to go back into stall mode until Rock returns next year. That's the problem with announcing the main event a year in advance. People said WWE had a year to build this match. No, they had 10 months to stall and 2 months to build at the very end.

The return video for Kane was awesome. I'd love if he returned with a mask. Doubt it, but would love it.

The "It Begins" video, I missed. But I watched the one Old Pride posted.

Looks like Cody Rhodes and Booker T are going to start their feud, finally. The rumor has been that Booker would be returning to the ring in December. Looks like this is true.
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Booker will be returning. It seems he will feud with Rhodes to put him over.

Why the hell did they split up Awesome Truth? Why couldn't they wait until slammy awards are done with? They would win a few of them.

Now we are once again at the stage where it makes absolute zero sense. I have seen this exact same scenario before where Cena just comes out there says some magic words and teams split up.

This is total Bullshit. WWE "creative" doing the usual I guess.

It's even boring to talk about it at this stage.

Why make Truth Face(If he's turning face)? I mean what the hell? The guy has just recently seriously started to roll and got me over by his side and now this "creative" BS happens?

Raw writing sucks as usual.

I wonder if The Rock will make RR to continue the feud or is he only going to show up during EC or direct after that.

Raw was a meh, meh fest. Nothing special really. But it was alright. Cm Punk addressing the audience really felt genuine and not scripted at all.

Punk and Ziggler I would believe had the match of the night. They really brought it back there. I enjoyed the match.
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James_Sunderland
Nov 22 2011, 04:39 PM
Why the hell did they split up Awesome Truth? Why couldn't they wait until slammy awards are done with? They would win a few of them.
Haven't watched Raw yesterday, but WWE just announced on their website that R-Truth has been suspended. I guess that's why they split them.
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I'm guessing when Truth comes back, he'll end up teaming with Johnny Curtis (they do have a tag team title shot after all.)

As for my Raw review, frankly I loved everything except the last segment. It was weird, there was actually more wrestling than promos. I'm also loving this resurgence of the midcarders. I was already a big fan of Cody, but now I'm starting to like Dolph Ziggler as well. Now if only they could give guys like Jack Swagger and Kofi Kingston actual pushes.
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I don't think the issue itself is in that they announced the main event a year early, it's that The Rock has such a shaky schedule that you can't do anything with it. WWE has done an amazing job in the past building up matches you know will be in the main event FAR in advance, but that's when both wrestlers have been able to appear and do something about it at least on a semi-weekly basis. Clearly, The Rock can't.

Rock vs. Hogan was the perfect example of what they should have done. Hogan didn't return until February of that year, and WrestleMania was in March (I THINK). They had a month, and did what they could, but honestly, the match built itself. If The Rock comes back on a completely permanent basis starting January they COULD do something about it, but the problem is that they have such a small history together that they'll more than likely be repeating what they've been doing all year, and that's the major issue. There's only so many times and so many ways you can say "I don't like you, Cena, because you pander to 12-year olds."

If The Rock could have permanently returned last year, have him wrestle, and build some sort of history with Cena (tag matches against one another, wrestling for a title, getting more into the current WWE scene), then there would be more to work off of, but there just isn't enough to go with right now for them to keep going weekly with this.
Edited by WWEFootos48, Nov 22 2011, 05:24 PM.
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Nov 22 2011, 04:43 PM
James_Sunderland
Nov 22 2011, 04:39 PM
Why the hell did they split up Awesome Truth? Why couldn't they wait until slammy awards are done with? They would win a few of them.
Haven't watched Raw yesterday, but WWE just announced on their website that R-Truth has been suspended. I guess that's why they split them.
Truth screwed Truth.
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So this has to do with the whole smoking spice with Evan Bourne controversy right?

So Truth will get suspended since he smoked spice with Evan? Or was it Miz or was it both? Why both of them are suspended if only one other person smoked spice with Bourne?

We really need more info on this issue.
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James_Sunderland
Nov 22 2011, 09:06 PM
So this has to do with the whole smoking spice with Evan Bourne controversy right?

So Truth will get suspended since he smoked spice with Evan? Or was it Miz or was it both? Why both of them are suspended if only one other person smoked spice with Bourne?

We really need more info on this issue.
Only Truth got suspended.
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This was definitly the best RAW since Ive started watching again. As someone mentioned(i forget who) the rise of the midcarders. And I agree. Starting with Sheamus, whos been a main eventer but is right now on the midcard, hes looking good each week. Dolph Ziggler has stepped up his mic skills and Cody Rhodes is okaaaaay, nothing special but alright.

The end was great. The Cena part was terrible but when Miz and Truth came out I personally thought it was good. I laughed when they mentioned the "dont tag Cena" chant at SS. Greatest chant ever. Of course Miz was top notch last night. Hes at his best when he just tells the truth about Cena. Other then that hes lame. R-Truth however is great. "Dont what me" beats out "really" any day of the week. And of course the fans sided with Truth when they got in each others face. A "little jimmy" chant. Now that, thats cool.

Too bad Truth is suspened though. Owell expect a shitty Miz promo next week bragging about taking him out blah blah at least we wont have to see him wrestle.
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Nov 22 2011, 10:12 PM
This was definitly the best RAW since Ive started watching again. As someone mentioned(i forget who) the rise of the midcarders. And I agree. Starting with Sheamus, whos been a main eventer but is right now on the midcard, hes looking good each week. Dolph Ziggler has stepped up his mic skills and Cody Rhodes is okaaaaay, nothing special but alright.

The end was great. The Cena part was terrible but when Miz and Truth came out I personally thought it was good. I laughed when they mentioned the "dont tag Cena" chant at SS. Greatest chant ever. Of course Miz was top notch last night. Hes at his best when he just tells the truth about Cena. Other then that hes lame. R-Truth however is great. "Dont what me" beats out "really" any day of the week. And of course the fans sided with Truth when they got in each others face. A "little jimmy" chant. Now that, thats cool.

Too bad Truth is suspened though. Owell expect a shitty Miz promo next week bragging about taking him out blah blah at least we wont have to see him wrestle.
Yes, yes "The Weed has set him free". We know, we know. Free for 30 days that is. :cool:

As far as your comment on Miz being lame.... tssst says the guy who has that cute pink cheeked rebal in his avatar :lol: .
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Nov 22 2011, 10:12 PM
This was definitly the best RAW since Ive started watching again.
That's like being the tallest midget.
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Nov 23 2011, 10:02 PM
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This was definitly the best RAW since Ive started watching again.
That's like being the tallest midget.
True that.
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Damn truth. I hear he completely ruined his push now. McMahon is going to make him face when he comes back. Even if only a rumor that sounds beyond bad.
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