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Harry Potter Marathon
Topic Started: Feb 17 2012, 11:22 AM (3,672 Views)
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You should share that profile. :yes:
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I should.

In fact, maybe I already have? :shifty:
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Don't you guys just hate it when people speak in riddles like that? Voldemort hated Riddles. That's why he killed his dad and changed his name!

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Speaking of Riddles, I keep meaning to get the picture of the tombstone with "RIDDLE" on it while I still have my brother's camera.

I was going to snap a picture the other day since I was passing by it during daylight, but it's right next to the road (but not close enough to get a good picture) and traffic in the area picked up like crazy out of nowhere right as I got near the gate. They probably wouldn't have cared, but I would have felt so damn dumb and geeky taking a picture of it. :lol:
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I'm thinking it's fake dialog, but it'd be funny if it were true. Pointless, which is what makes it funny :lol:
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I bet they did so many times that people still aren't exactly sure which one they were talking to. :lol:

I've never seen any interviews with them, but I wonder how different their personalities are? I've known a few pairs of twins and the easiest way to tell them apart was the personalities. Like with these two guys I knew, one was super serious while the other was a class clown (much like how the Weasley twins act in the movies). Or these two cute girls I grew up with, one was really hippy-like and laid back while the other was very determined and much more serious (something about her was much more attractive too).
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This officially is no longer a marathon, I suppose, since it's been quite some time since I saw the last film. I've lost a lot of momentum with the series. Regardless, I'm going to try and finish this up now.

There are two films left, both parts of The Deathly Hallows. Instead of spacing them apart and risking never seeing the final movie, I'm going to take a break from my non-stop wrestling over the last two weeks and attempt to watch both back to back right now. I might have forgotten some things about the series, so if I wind up asking questions about things that have already been covered, you'll know why.

Hey, hey! It's Selene's adoptive vampire father! :lol:

Is the entire newspaper outside of the headlines written in the Harry Potter font? Oh man, that paper would be brutal to try and read.

I guess this opening is their way of showing what it is exactly that they have to lose. Is the "obliviate" spell Hermione just used reversible? I'm assuming so...

There are more under Voldemort's wing than I had realized, although it makes sense. So is that the snake the one from the first film?

Bellatrix is still sexy. Wormtail reminds me of Kevin Dunn. Wow... Lucious looks absolutely run ragged. Why is everybody so hesitant to hand over their wand? Just not wanting to lose their access to their magic?

R.A.B. again. It seems like one of those subtle things for people that read the books to pop for since they don't seem to be making a big deal out of the initials. I already forgot that his miserable family moved out. Why did they?

Whoa whoa whoa... it's the one hot girl I marked out for earlier (whose name I can't remember). She's married to Remus? I never saw that coming. :lol: She looks damn fine.

Oh god! Hermione looks like Drew McIntyre! :lol: I'll grab a screen shot.

Here it is


:lol: This is probably the funniest scene in the series so far. :lol:

Shouldn't it be obvious to anybody looking for Potter that he would most likely be with Hagrid? Or is his close friendship with him supposed to be unknown to most? Do the muggles see all of this or are they just getting into accidents and not knowing what from?

R.I.P. owl whose name I don't know.

I'm really not sure what just happened with Voldemort and Harry there but it was cool.

Ginny! Betrayed, hmm? By one of the people in that group? I'm guessing it's that one short guy that said he's an admirer of Potter. But I could be wrong.

Wait, who is dead? The only one I see that's missing is... the "admirer" I just mentioned. :grin:

Non-movie related note, I'm craving ice cream so much right now. Both because I was eating a lot of Ben & Jerry's during the other movies and because the only time I usually sit down and watch a movie without doing anything else is when I'm eating but alas... nothing to eat and I literally only have a dollar or two in coins until monday morning. :(

Oh god, that newspaper is near impossible to read. A close-up and I can't make out shit.

I love the Weasley twins. :lol:

I keep expecting the snitch to take off and I guess so does the Minister. :lol:

Jesus. Does everybody have somebody? It figures her dad(?) is a total hippie. :lol:

I just completely zoned out during that old lady's story about Dumbledore, but I'm too lazy to go back and listen again.

Watch out! Hermione is going to turn into Agent Smith! You know... the lady in red scene from The Matrix? Hrm. :shifty:

Ron isn't familiar with this world either? It had never even occurred to me. Good luck explaining that to your boss tomorrow, store lady.

There it is again. Now I'm guessing "obliviate" isn't reversible? I guess that would make Hermione's future life with Ron a bit easier.

These names, man. Half the time I don't even know who they're talking about. If it's somebody new or somebody I've already heard of before.

Umbridge?! Ffffffffffffffff

Hey, it's the short guy again. The "admirer".

"Fur Elise". I used to play that all the time. Taught myself by ear, I did. Forgotten how to play it almost entirely, I did also. :(

Ugh... it's the pathetic Smeagol again.

Really? Nobody noticed that? It must be an interesting world where nobody's eyes wander anywhere except directly straight ahead. :rolleyes:

You know, the Ministry of Magic is awfully easy to take over it seems.

God damn, this screams Hitler and the Nazis. A charismatic and powerful leader born from "impure" genetics, grows in power behind the scenes before taking over the government and beginning their social and political war against the "impure", meaning the leader is a hypocrite and even easier to root against.

Harry should have used avra kedavra on Umbridge. :hmmp:

Harry looks like I.R.S. after taking off his suit jacket. :lol:

Ooh... shit. His arm was coming off, wasn't it? What happened to the other guy who was after them? Where is he? That was a weird cut. Asking where to find a tent, looking at Hermione's purse to nudge that a tent is in there, then a shot of a tent at night then it fades right to them trying to destroy the Horcrux. Very odd edit.

Half way through the film, I'm beginning to wonder if my long period of interruption will affect my ability to rate these last two films. I'm not in the same mind set I was in while watching the first six.

Is that a radio playing? I didn't think they'd have radios...

I'm really not sure if they're in the muggle world or magic world right now during all of this camping journey thing.

The bearer of the horcrux is acting like the possessor of the one true ring, kind of.

Weird moment of tension with Harry and Hermione leading into this dance. Is this a song made for the movie, or a legit hit song from the UK? It's kind of catchy. I thought they were going to kiss for a second. :lol:

Harry just said "you know who" again when talking to Hermione alone on the cliff. Why? Would Voldemort have some way to hear him if he said his name?

Christmas again? A re-occuring theme. Gotta love how they use the snow to shield the years of birth and death for Harry's parents. A great way to keep the films timeless while not deviating from the time line from the books (I've seen enough to know all of this was supposed to have happened a few decades earlier than it happened in the movies).

Again, I have no idea if they're in the muggle world or magic world. I honestly don't know but I'm inclined to believe it's the muggle world.

And this part with the snake is when most kids get their nightmare fuel. :lol: The old lady's face was almost on the level of the truck driver's face from Pee-Wee Big Adventure. :lol:

Is that the same snake? I'm just going to assume that every big python I see is the same snake from the first film. :lol:

Where did Ron go, anyway?

So now Harry doesn't have his wand and Voldemort has Lucius' in addition to his own? Will some kind of scenario like the following play out: Harry and Voldemort battle using the borrowed wands, now able to harm each other, until Harry gets the upper hand and Voldemort pulls out his usual wand and gains the upper hand. When it seems all hope is lost, Harry regains his old wand and... I really don't know where I'm going with this. :lol:

That's either the sword he's after or Excalibur. :lol: I would have thought you'd try to get rid of most of the ice rather than just a small hole but maybe that's just me. Or cast some kind of spell to bring the sword to him rather than be forced to swim down to it. See now? If you had gotten rid of all the ice, you wouldn't be in this situation now. Is it gonna be Ron? AHA! It is! As soon as I saw that his face wasn't coming into focus, I figured he was the most likely candidate.

Way to hesitate, Ron. Oh my, naked and kissing. This series has definitely grown up since the first film. Three more to go? This is going to be a long adventure. So where the hell did Ron spend all of his time all of these weeks? Oh... just kind of wandering around I guess trying to find them.

I guess that changes the wand thing around a bit. Still wonder if his old one will end up coming back in some form, though. It was pretty special after all.

Off-topic note, it is so much harder for me to keep still and pay attention without something to eat or do while watching this. I can't just sit and watch movies. It drives me fucking crazy! :lol:

Or maybe they're not in the muggle world after all. Fuck, I don't even know anymore.

Where's Luna? Ha! Hermione asked it right as I was typing it. I'm glad they're animating this story. It would have been so much less interesting if they had just sat with the camera in that room.

Isn't that Voldemort's wand? It looks like it from what I remember. Second gift applies to Potter's parents... but I bet will be used to save two others, maybe Ron and Hermione? Third gift is the invisible cloak.

Hmm. Maybe it isn't Voldemort's wand, but the wand Harry will use to defeat him? Or maybe both with Harry's broken wand combining with Voldemort's to become that wand of legend, perhaps?

I'm guessing he's going to barter Harry for Luna's safe return? Ah, yep. Say his name and they appear. And Mr. Lovegood is attempting to make the trade.

There's just something about these guys that really screams generic British thugs to me. The hoodies and all of that. It must be the UK's version of our bikers and gangstas. :lol:

Gah! Of course, Dumbledore's wand! I knew I recognized the knotted wand look but I was mistakenly remembering it as Voldemort's. I remember it as Dumbledore's now. I remember thinking about how odd it looked.

What the hell has happened to Lucius? He's been all frazzled all movie long. Is he regretting his service to Voldemort or something?

I'm confused about why Wormtail looks the way he does. Is it because he was a rat for so long? More Dobby... Yep. Mrs. Malfoy is kind of hot in a way. She doesn't have anything on the bizarre sexiness of Bellatrix, though. Even with her god awful mouth.

Why do people always push their captives away? Why wouldn't you just fall back with them? Lucius has got to learn how to counter that stupefy. :lol:

And so another character we're supposed to care about but are given little reason to over any other random secondary character dies. If you're a fan of the books, this probably means a lot but as a strictly movie fan? Meh. He was a little more likeable than Sirius, who could have seriously been left out of the movies altogether and nothing would be missed really (even though book fans would be crazy pissed), but still a rather minor character.

And so, going into Part II, Voldemort holds the mightiest of wands.

And so Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part II ends.

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I don't really have all that much to say, to be honest. It definitely requires you to have seen the previous ones to have any chance of knowing what the hell is going on. :lol:

I enjoyed the movie a lot, but nothing about it really stood out to me as something really amazing. It definitely felt like a Part I all the way through. The only thing I'm left wondering, other than how will Harry and pals defeat Voldemort, is what happened to the others at the wedding. But I suppose I'll find out in the next and final film.

Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part I
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I have to split this post into two because I reached my emoticons limit. :lol: Even though it's glitching like it always does and says "Your post contains 1 emoticons. The maximum allowed in a post is 50."
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Now it's time for a first as I go right into the next and final film with only the time used to type up that quick review taken off in-between the two. To be honest, I wasn't sure if I wanted to do this while watching the last since I'm not feeling as into these movies I was a couple weeks ago and, as I said, I have a hard time sitting still when watching movies.

Anyway, I can't believe it's finally coming to an end. Knowing somewhat what happens after this adventure ends definitely has affected my experience but now instead of wondering where they're ending up it's me wondering exactly how they're going to get there. It's like they say, though, it's the journey not the destination that counts.

I've actually got kind of a rare perspective on these films, I'd say. I'm not already informed of what happens from reading the books but I'm also not ignorant as to where the journey ends. It's kind of cool, to be honest.

And away... we... go!

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Ah, so he's the same goblin from the bank way back when. Cool.

With Griffindor and Slytherin being so important, where does that leave the other houses? Do they just not matter, or are their artifacts and related mysteries just oriented towards other adventures and mysteries than this one (perhaps adventures that have already come and gone or have yet to come)?

How easy it to replace your wand, anyway? Up until recently, I had thought that it was really difficult and wands were more or less attached to the individual but now I'm seeing people use wands that aren't their own and I'm left slightly confused. Is it similar to lightsabers in Star Wars? Each lightsaber is typically created just for it's owner and designed specifically for their needs but, in theory, anybody who can wield a lightsaber can wield any of them. It just might take some time to get used to the new balance.

Anyway, so Malfoy's allegiance might have changed? Does this mean he's turning face but just waiting for his opportunity to step away from Voldemort?

You know, with the ability to change form into another person so easily, that seems like it could be quite a dangerous world to live in. And a fun one. :naughty:

Something I've wondered about since the first movie, though: do they still have their voices, or do their voices match the person they look like and they just have the voices of their true identities so we don't forget who is the real one and who isn't?

This...rail scene gives off major Temple of Doom vibes, minus the combat.

Dang... Hermione in Bellatrix's clothes is... nice. :lol:

This seem kind of reminds me of the Cave of Wonders from Aladdin. Good thing they don't have Abu with them to screw it up somehow. :lol:

Oh, well then... I guess they have Hermione and Ron for that. :lol:

Never trust a goblin, I suppose. So I'm guessing they'll escape via that dragon or something, right? I was thinking they might when I saw it as they entered the room. Ha! The death of that goblin was a nice way to show that the dragon means business. :lol:

Yep, gonna take the dragon. Figured as much. Although you'd have to wonder how well it can fly if it hasn't done it for awhile. Is it gonna just burst...haha, as I was typing that he jumps into the lobby. Well at least he struggled a bit to take flight, so they probably thought of the same thing.

So many times in these movies that I would be screwed so badly since I can't swim. I can't even float on my back. I would be long dead by now even with magic on my side. :lol:

That's Dumbledore's brother? I thought it was the dying old man at the house with Luna. :lol: I probably missed it because I keep bouncing over to 6SW when the movie slows.

God, the practical worship of Harry is just... disturbing. He's basically the "good" version of Voldemort in that he's super charismatic and has status as a chosen one that his peers are in awe of. Yin and yang, Harry and Voldemort. Yin and yang.

Speaking of disturbing, there is a disturbingly low amount of Snape in these movies so far. I hope he becomes a bigger player in this film from here on out. I miss Hagrid, too, but seeing that Snape is an important figure, I would expect to have seen more of him.

I don't know what to think of him now. Other than him being Harry's protector, I don't know where he stands.

What the fuck? Why is Slytherin as a whole automatically bad? That's a little lazy writing wise isn't it? :angry:

Ha! Sheamus' explosive past turns into a blessing. :lol:

Okay, I give up on trying to understand how many of them there are on Voldemort's side. :lol:

Wait... oh. I was about to ask how Ron could speak snake tongue, but right after I typed "wait" he revealed how. Kind of lazy writing again, imo, but whatever.

You know, water is a very common theme in these movies I've noticed. Oh shit... Ron and Hermione making with the kissing. I had forgotten that they hadn't yet. Speaking of romance, I really like the way they've handled the Ginny/Harry relationship. It's felt very natural. Unlike what they did with Sirius, they've been able to use only a few appearances outside of one movie to craft a relationship that seems genuine and, if something was to happen to Ginny, it would be much more understandable to think he'd be devastated by it.

I'm surprised Malfoy isn't teaming with the two boys he used to team with all the time, the ones Ron and Harry took the form of. Unless... I remember one of the actors that played one of the minor characters was killed a few years back. Was he one of them?

I'm very confused about Malfoy now, though. Very confused.

I don't understand why they hesitated to destroy that horcrux. I would have stabbed that damn thing within the first second or two that I got it. There was plenty of time to do so before the fire came.

Again, Cave of Wonders vibe this time during this escape scene.

Only one horcrux left, right? This will be interesting. Makes me wonder if destroying that last one will be the method behind Voldemort's death. I had thought that it would just weaken him, not that it would finish him off.

Holy crap, Lucius. He looks like he's been through hell.

Hey, wait a tick, was that Ron's crazy ex-girlfriend that the werewolf was feeding on? It looked kind of like her.

I think Alan Rickman maybe got some work done on his face. He looks more Hollywood now. Maybe it's the make-up and hair. It looks like they tried to make him prettier for these last two films. :lol:

Oh...wow. I... really did not think Snape would go out like this. There's a remark about his mother's eyes again. And so Snape dies. Damn. I'm really unsure what was going on in his head and what his motivations were now.

Wait what.... one of the twins are dead?! Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff That is easily the worst death so far. That really fucking sucks. :(

The picture from before is true, Harry does not have his mother's eyes like they keep saying. :lol: And holy god, Harry's aunt was an awful person right from the beginning.

So Harry must die to kill Voldemort. But Harry doesn't die for good then so... will that be when the second gift from the story of the three brothers will come in handy? To resurrect Harry Potter? And there it is. The resurrection stone... Where's Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda? :lol:

So does Voldemort know that Harry contains part of Voldemort inside? I would assume so but I'm unsure...

You know, now that I think about it, I've heard people refer to Harry's scar as the "horcrux" for years now and never realized what they were talking about. I've been wondering why that word has sounded so familiar to me throughout this entire film series.

Why does Dumbledore have to talk in riddles? Just tell Harry what to do. :lol:

Ooh... saving Malfoy helped big time.

And... and... aaaaaand... I expected a Malfoy face turn. :-/

Fuck yeah, Neville. Still one of my favorites. Glad to see he's having his moment of glory.

More glory for Neville? Could it be?

"Not my daughter, you bitch!" I totally popped for that! :lol:

Harry has some awesome glasses, by the way. He goes through hell yet they rarely ever fall off or even slide down a bit. :lol:

You know, if someone would put the song from when Vader and Luke were fighting on the Death Star II over this battle... it could be pretty cool.

Go Neville, go Neville, go!

Not really sure what's happening. Wait a minute... the wand. If you use the wand and it's not yours, it curses you. That's what the curse was that was being contained on Dumbledore's hand for the time being was all about. Voldemort wasn't able to contain it so it spread rapidly. Whose wand is it, though?

I would have thought people would be a bit more enthusiastic with Voldemort's death. This is a bit... lackluster. They'd be more excited if they heard they were getting mashed potatoes for lunch. :-/

Draco's then turned into Harry's? So... what was with the curse Dumbledore suffered from then? Wasn't he using that before Draco disarmed him and took it over?

And that's how it ends? No applause? No celebration? Voldemort died and everybody just quietly goes about their day?

19 Year Later...

Wow they did a good job at making them look older. :lol: Who is that gorgeous girl Draco is with, though? :naughty:

Oh my god, Ron is starting to look like his dad! :lol: And Harry looking like his. Wow. That's nice to learn a bit how the sorting hat works. It makes sense now that people got what they wanted so easily before.

And so it ends.

Time for the final quick review.

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I can't believe I've finally made it all the way through the series. I never thought I would, not before I started this and I was beginning to believe I might not after the half way point. :lol:

It was a very good movie from a really great film series. Again, I don't have a lot to say in particular other than that I did enjoy the experience and it was definitely a nice way to end it all.

I think the only complain that comes to mind about this last film is that it ended on kind of a flat note. The look at two decades later is very awesome and I had been looking forward to it since starting my run through of these films, but it lacks a certain kind of oomph for such an epic series. It might have been more forgivable if my true complaint about the ending had been different - the lack of exclamation point to Voldemort's death. It's almost like he, the greatest threat any of these people have ever known, died and nobody cared. Everybody just went about their day. That was both disappointing and unrealistic. When tyrants and extreme threats like that are killed in real life, the people who suffered under their shadow tend to show a lot of joy - joy that can even mask the pain of terrible loss, at least for a few moments. With Voldemort's death, I didn't get that. It came off more like they just kind of shrugged it off. Even Harry, Ron, and Hermione seemed to just instantly move on.

So, while it is an overall great movie, it went out with a very flat ending.

Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part II
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I've been wanting to use this image for a while now, but could never find a place to use it. Since Dobby dies in this movie and since I'm sure you'll be completely apathetic towards his death, I'll go ahead and post it now...before I start calling you utterly heartless:

Not that sock, Dobby!


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Ok, replying as I'm reading....here we go:

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Hey, hey! It's Selene's adoptive vampire father! :lol:

I have no idea who Selene is, so that joke is lost on me.

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I guess this opening is their way of showing what it is exactly that they have to lose. Is the "obliviate" spell Hermione just used reversible? I'm assuming so...

In a way, yes. But it is also a way of protecting their families and themselves. When Harry turns of age, the protective spell that was put on him by Dumbledore will vanish and Voldemort could come straight to the Dursley's front door if he wanted to. The trio know they are the most hunted people on the planet since Voldemort will be putting all his efforts into finding them (Ron and Hermione just to get to Harry). So each protect themselves. Hermione's is the only one shown. She erased her memory from her parent's minds and had them think they were someone else completely. She basically went MIB on them and gave them completely new memories and new identities. I believe she even had them relocate to a different country (I want to say Australia, but I'd have to double check). So there is absolutely no way Voldemort can get to her parents to try to get to her. Ron's family is already in Voldemort's line of fire, so he really doesn't have as much to do. He just needs to explain why he isn't attending Hogwarts this term. He dresses up a ghoul in pajamas, transfigures its appearance, and starts a rumor that he has a very contagious disease. If anyone ever goes to Ron's house, they'll see the ghoul but wouldn't examine it too much since the disease is so contagious. Harry doesn't give a damn about the Dursley's but they are still given protection by the Order of the Phoenix. They basically go into witness relocation guarded by the Order. Voldemort would have tortured any of their family members to get information about the trio, so they all protected everyone. All of this is reversible and everything could be put back to normal after Voldemort is defeated.

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So is that the snake the one from the first film?

Yup. When Harry released the snake by accident, the snake went back to it's home country (different in the books than in the movies, but still). Voldemort's...um, spirit or whatever you call him before he got a body, was in that country. Voldemort found the snake and basically lived off the snake until he got his body back.

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Why is everybody so hesitant to hand over their wand? Just not wanting to lose their access to their magic?

Wants are kind of the symbol of a witch/wizard in this series. A very skilled wizard can do some magic without a wand, but it comes out fuzzy. The wand is what focuses the magic. And like you saw in the first movie, the wand chooses the wizard. You can always get a new wand (Remember Ron got a new one after breaking his in Chamber of Secrets), but it's still seen as a slap in the face to loose your wand.

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Whoa whoa whoa... it's the one hot girl I marked out for earlier (whose name I can't remember). She's married to Remus? I never saw that coming. :lol:

Nymphadora Tonks

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Oh god! Hermione looks like Drew McIntyre! :lol:

To be fair, that is Harry in drag! :lol:

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Shouldn't it be obvious to anybody looking for Potter that he would most likely be with Hagrid?

They would assume that Harry is being protected by the most skilled Auror. Moody is suppose to be the most skilled (even though he isn't presented as one, when you think about it) so Voldemort would expect Moody to be protecting Harry. Hagrid, while a loveable character and a true friend to Harry, is someone that was expelled from Hogwarts, never finished his magical education, and is seen as something of an oaf. Who would expect him to be protecting the most wanted boy in the world, especially when there are so many trained Aurors present? To compare this, it'd be like having a room full of FBI agents willing to protect you, but instead being protected by a mall cop.

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R.I.P. owl whose name I don't know.

Hedwig. It was never explained, but I think the author killed Hedwig just to avoid explaining her presence in the rest of the story. I mean, she's a very identifiable and noticeable owl. How would Harry have her without giving his presence away? So Hedwig dies.

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Wait, who is dead? The only one I see that's missing is... the "admirer" I just mentioned. :grin:

Mad Eye Moody

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Ron isn't familiar with this world either? It had never even occurred to me.

His dad is a wizard, works at the Ministry of Magic. His mom is a witch and is a stay-home mom. There entire family is magical. He has no exposure to the muggle world until he befriends Harry. So the muggle world is as strange to him as the magic world was to Harry.
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Good luck explaining that to your boss tomorrow, store lady.

They actually do that clean up spell that Dumbledore and Slughorn did in HBP and they MIB her memory. So no one would notice anything.

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Really? Nobody noticed that? It must be an interesting world where nobody's eyes wander anywhere except directly straight ahead. :rolleyes:

What are you talking about?

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You know, the Ministry of Magic is awfully easy to take over it seems.

Nah, it's just the movie half-assing it again.

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God damn, this screams Hitler and the Nazis. A charismatic and powerful leader born from "impure" genetics, grows in power behind the scenes before taking over the government and beginning their social and political war against the "impure", meaning the leader is a hypocrite and even easier to root against.

That's the exact same analogy I have you like 5 movies ago! :lol:

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Ooh... shit. His arm was coming off, wasn't it?

Yeah, Ron got splinched. This is why that form of travel is the coolest, but the most dangerous. If you do it wrong, you can lose a body part or even die.

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What happened to the other guy who was after them? Where is he?

The trio was going back to Sirius's house. Hermione noticed that guy was hanging onto them when they got to Sirius's house. Since he now knows where the place is, he can tell everyone. So Hermione quickly grabs Harry and Ron and apparates them away. The guy is left back at the house.

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Is that a radio playing? I didn't think they'd have radios

They have the Wizard Wireless Network. We just don't get exposed to it much while they are Hogwarts. Remember back in Goblet of Fire when they had that big dance? Remember the band that played during that dance? That was one of the bands that play on the WWN.

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I'm really not sure if they're in the muggle world or magic world right now during all of this camping journey thing.

Muggle.

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The bearer of the horcrux is acting like the possessor of the one true ring, kind of.

There is a part of Voldemort's soul in that horcrux. That soul can possess a human if the human grows close to it.

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Harry just said "you know who" again when talking to Hermione alone on the cliff. Why? Would Voldemort have some way to hear him if he said his name?

They agree to stop saying Voldemort's name because it bothered Ron. But Voldemort did put a curse on his name so that anyone that said his name could immediately be found by his army. This is how the trio is caught later in the movie. Harry says Voldemort's name and Snatchers instantly pop up.

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Again, I have no idea if they're in the muggle world or magic world. I honestly don't know but I'm inclined to believe it's the muggle world.

When they are at the gravesite, they are in a magic town made up completely by witches/wizards.

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Is that the same snake? I'm just going to assume that every big python I see is the same snake from the first film. :lol:

Yes. Always yes. There is only 1 snake in this entire series.

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Where did Ron go, anyway?

You dont' find out until the end of the movie, but he actually went to one of his brothers. He was too embarrassed to go home because he knew his mom would kill him for abandoning Harry (who she thinks of as an adopted son). So he goes to Bill and Fleur.

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I would have thought you'd try to get rid of most of the ice rather than just a small hole but maybe that's just me. Or cast some kind of spell to bring the sword to him rather than be forced to swim down to it. See now? If you had gotten rid of all the ice, you wouldn't be in this situation now.

Unexplained in the movies, but there were spells on the sword. He couldn't just magic it to him. This was like a test to prove he was worthy of the sword.

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Way to hesitate, Ron. Oh my, naked and kissing.

That entire scene that came out of the horcrux was one of my favorite two scenes in the movie. My absolute favorite was the animation for the tale of the three brothers (when Hermione explains the Deathly Hallows). But this black ooze scene come in a close second.

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What the hell has happened to Lucius? He's been all frazzled all movie long. Is he regretting his service to Voldemort or something?

He's become Voldemort's whipping boy. Voldemort blames him for the disaster that happened in Order of the Phoenix. He blames Lucious for not getting the prophecy and for the Death Eaters being caught. Voldemort broke him out of Azkaban, but has been treating him like shit since.

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And so another character we're supposed to care about but are given little reason to over any other random secondary character dies. If you're a fan of the books, this probably means a lot but as a strictly movie fan? Meh. He was a little more likeable than Sirius, who could have seriously been left out of the movies altogether and nothing would be missed really (even though book fans would be crazy pissed), but still a rather minor character.

We both knew you were going to say that and we both knew I was going to say this: Fuck you, you heartless bastard. When you die, I hope no one cares or even notices! Now that that's out of our system...

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And so Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows Part II ends.

Um, no. Part I ended. Part II follows. Math isn't your friend, is it? :weirdo:

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It definitely requires you to have seen the previous ones to have any chance of knowing what the hell is going on. :lol:

Well, obviously. The first 2 movies are really stand alone, but the plot intertwines and builds on itself from 3 up to the end. I doubt very many people are picking this up as their first Harry Potter movie. Well, they might have since there was A LOT of hype for it. But it is clearly for people that have followed the series. It's the finale, after all! :lol:

Ok, I'll do another reply for DH2
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I have no idea who Selene is, so that joke is lost on me.


Selene is the lead character from the main Underworld movies. The guy who was playing the Minister played her adoptive father, the man who turned her into a vampire.

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She erased her memory from her parent's minds and had them think they were someone else completely. She basically went MIB on them and gave them completely new memories and new identities. I believe she even had them relocate to a different country (I want to say Australia, but I'd have to double check).


So what happens when family members start wondering what happened to Hermione, or what happened to the parents (if they don't remember who they are)? We've got three missing people now as far as the people that knew that family in the muggle world are concerned. :lol:

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Until I read your post, I completely forgot that character even existed. :lol: As soon as the first scenes ended, I forgot he was ever even a thing. :lol:

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What are you talking about?


When they were capturing the three adults to take their forms, they basically knock out and kidnap the woman in the middle of day light right on a bright and wide open street basically to the immediate left of a very busy crosswalk. Ron acts all sneaky, but all the people that are outside (and there are a LOT of people) are just looking straight ahead. Nobody is looking to the side or anything. It's so un-natural. :lol:

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We both knew you were going to say that and we both knew I was going to say this: Fuck you, you heartless bastard. When you die, I hope no one cares or even notices! Now that that's out of our system...


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Um, no. Part I ended. Part II follows. Math isn't your friend, is it?


It very much isn't, but I think I was going to type something about Part II beginning and the thoughts merged/got distracted. :lol:
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How easy it to replace your wand, anyway? Up until recently, I had thought that it was really difficult and wands were more or less attached to the individual but now I'm seeing people use wands that aren't their own and I'm left slightly confused. Is it similar to lightsabers in Star Wars? Each lightsaber is typically created just for it's owner and designed specifically for their needs but, in theory, anybody who can wield a lightsaber can wield any of them. It just might take some time to get used to the new balance.

Yeah, basically. The wand and wizard bond, so there is a very intimate relationship between the two. But you can still do magic with other wands. It's just not as...natural feeling. It'd be like wearing someone else's shoes. Even if they are the same size, and even if they do actually protect your feet, you'd know that they weren't yours and that something was a little off.

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Something I've wondered about since the first movie, though: do they still have their voices, or do their voices match the person they look like and they just have the voices of their true identities so we don't forget who is the real one and who isn't?

I believe they only adopt the physical appearance. I remember Harry and Ron taking turns trying to talk like Crabbe and Goyle in Chamber of Secrets. So if you are bad with imitating other people's voices, then you'd be a dead give away.

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Dang... Hermione in Bellatrix's clothes is... nice. :lol:

If you think about it, that had to be very difficult scene to act. That's Bellatrix acting like Hermione acting like Bellatrix. So Hermione had to watch Bellatrix and do her impersonation. Then Bellatrix had to watch Hermione acting like herself and then try to act like that. I'm not even sure if I'm explaining that right. :lol:

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Speaking of disturbing, there is a disturbingly low amount of Snape in these movies so far. I hope he becomes a bigger player in this film from here on out. I miss Hagrid, too, but seeing that Snape is an important figure, I would expect to have seen more of him.

Snape is the new Headmaster of Hogwarts. Since the trio are not at Hogwarts, it's understandable that we dont' see much of Snape. But as I'm sure you've seen by now, we do get a great explanation of Snape at the end. That scene was my favorite of this movie.

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Why is Slytherin as a whole automatically bad? That's a little lazy writing wise isn't it? :angry:

If it's lazy writing, it's on the movie writer's part. I'm sure you're tired of me saying this so many times, but things are slightly different in the books. All Slytherins are not considered bad in the books. Just the ones that vocally side against Hogwarts/Harry.

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I'm surprised Malfoy isn't teaming with the two boys he used to team with all the time, the ones Ron and Harry took the form of. Unless... I remember one of the actors that played one of the minor characters was killed a few years back. Was he one of them?

Malfoy is still with Crabbe and Goyle. They just changed actors, so it's understandable to think he's with new people. But it's the same two characters the entire series.

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Only one horcrux left, right? This will be interesting. Makes me wonder if destroying that last one will be the method behind Voldemort's death. I had thought that it would just weaken him, not that it would finish him off.

Two left. The Snake, you know about. And Harry accidentally became a Horcrux when Voldemort attacked him all those years ago. And you are right about the Horcruxes just weaking Voldemort...kind of. By destroying all the Horcruxes, they made Voldemort mortal. But they still have to defeat Voldemort. He's still Voldemort. He's still as powerful as he's always been. He's just not immortal this time so he can die.

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So Harry must die to kill Voldemort. But Harry doesn't die for good then so... will that be when the second gift from the story of the three brothers will come in handy? To resurrect Harry Potter? And there it is. The resurrection stone...

The resurrection stone cannot actually bring someone back to life. You cannot bring back the dead, not even in the magic world. It just brings back smoke versions of them. It's like a copy of them or something. They are there, but only seen by the person with the resurrection stone. And the versions that are brought back are said to be very unhappy about being in this world.

And I still forget if it is explained in the movie, but Harry is a Horcrux. The only way for the Horcrux in Harry to be destroyed is for Voldemort himself to destroy it. So Harry must sacrifice himself. But by doing so, only the Horcrux is destroyed. Harry doesn't die.

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So does Voldemort know that Harry contains part of Voldemort inside? I would assume so but I'm unsure...

No. This is something Voldemort never knew. If he knew, I don't think he's have wanted Harry dead! Or, at the very least, he'd have tried to get his soul out of Harry first.

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Why does Dumbledore have to talk in riddles? Just tell Harry what to do. :lol:

Then he wouldn't be Dumbledore! :lol:

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"Not my daughter, you bitch!" I totally popped for that! :lol:

The actress that plays Molly Weasly said in an interview that that is her all time favorite line that she's ever said in her career.

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Wait a minute... the wand. If you use the wand and it's not yours, it curses you. That's what the curse was that was being contained on Dumbledore's hand for the time being was all about. Voldemort wasn't able to contain it so it spread rapidly. Whose wand is it, though?

What the fuck? I don't even know what you are talking about. You can use a wand that isn't yours. It doesn't curse you. Ron's wand cursed Lockhart in COS because it was broken. Dumbledore's hand was cursed because he put on the ring that had the Resurrection Stone and the curse attacked him. He would have died if Snape didn't contain the curse to his one hand.

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I would have thought people would be a bit more enthusiastic with Voldemort's death. This is a bit... lackluster. They'd be more excited if they heard they were getting mashed potatoes for lunch. :-/

Again, different in the book. Also, Voldemort's death was different as well...which now that I think about it, you might have been talking about Voldemort's death in the above quote. They did that weird evaporating thing for a dramatic affect in the movie. It looked cool that Voldemort died in such a cool way. But in the book, he just died. His dead body just fell to the ground.


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When they were capturing the three adults to take their forms, they basically knock out and kidnap the woman in the middle of day light right on a bright and wide open street basically to the immediate left of a very busy crosswalk. Ron acts all sneaky, but all the people that are outside (and there are a LOT of people) are just looking straight ahead. Nobody is looking to the side or anything. It's so un-natural. :lol:

Oh, right, yeah. I remember thinking the same thing when watching the movie. But in the book, they made sure they got to her when she was all alone, no people around.

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If it's lazy writing, it's on the movie writer's part. I'm sure you're tired of me saying this so many times, but things are slightly different in the books. All Slytherins are not considered bad in the books. Just the ones that vocally side against Hogwarts/Harry.


They make it seem like all Slytherins are automatically the "bad kids". When Voldemort is speaking to everybody at Hogwarts telepathically, one girl from Slytherin house speaks out in a panic wondering why nobody is grabbing Potter. As a result, the new headmaster (the older woman whose name I never remember) sends the entire Slytherin house to the dungeon. It's crazy paranoid.

It actually could be tied to another WWII reference in that it's how the U.S. - the "good guys" - treated American citizens of Japanese descent. We had a conflict with Japan, so we automatically assume that any of them could be bad so let's just put all of them in a safe place for the time being. So paranoid.

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And you are right about the Horcruxes just weaking Voldemort...kind of. By destroying all the Horcruxes, they made Voldemort mortal. But they still have to defeat Voldemort. He's still Voldemort. He's still as powerful as he's always been. He's just not immortal this time so he can die.


That was one thing that I was having a hard time understanding through the last two films. At times, it seemed they implied destroying them all would destroy Voldemort. At other times, it seemed destroying them would just weaken him. I was never sure.

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And I still forget if it is explained in the movie, but Harry is a Horcrux. The only way for the Horcrux in Harry to be destroyed is for Voldemort himself to destroy it. So Harry must sacrifice himself. But by doing so, only the Horcrux is destroyed. Harry doesn't die.


I don't think they ever explained that it wouldn't kill Harry. They kept driving home the point that Harry must die, and so it seems he does, then he immediately reveals that he isn't when Mrs. Malfoy comes over to check and asks if Draco is still alive. From then on, he pretends to be dead until he jumps out of Hagrid's arms during the showdown at the ruins of Hogwarts and gets right to fighting. I wasn't really sure how he came back and I don't think they ever clearly said how he survived the shot that should have killed him. :-/

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What the fuck? I don't even know what you are talking about. You can use a wand that isn't yours. It doesn't curse you. Ron's wand cursed Lockhart in COS because it was broken. Dumbledore's hand was cursed because he put on the ring that had the Resurrection Stone and the curse attacked him. He would have died if Snape didn't contain the curse to his one hand.


Not wands in general, just the wand that is all knotted and the strongest wand ever is what I was talking about. Only the rightful owner of it can use it as they keep mentioning. At the time, it seemed that Voldemort died from something that looked like an advanced version of what was slowly consuming Dumbledore (Snape seemed to imply the control was only temporary). In the same way Dumbledore's hand was turning black and gangrene looking, Voldemort's body was quickly consumed with the same look before he crumbled apart and his ashes drifted away.

It was definitely more dramatic than just falling down, though. A really good way to show that Voldemort is dead and gone rather than having to wonder since his body is still there.
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They make it seem like all Slytherins are automatically the "bad kids". When Voldemort is speaking to everybody at Hogwarts telepathically, one girl from Slytherin house speaks out in a panic wondering why nobody is grabbing Potter. As a result, the new headmaster (the older woman whose name I never remember) sends the entire Slytherin house to the dungeon. It's crazy paranoid.

This was really just for the movie. In the book, people that spoke out against Harry and wanted to see Harry handed over to Voldemort were locked away, but the rest of Slytherin House were as free to fight or hide as the rest of the school. It' only "All slytherins are all bad" in the movies.

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I don't think they ever explained that it wouldn't kill Harry. They kept driving home the point that Harry must die, and so it seems he does, then he immediately reveals that he isn't when Mrs. Malfoy comes over to check and asks if Draco is still alive. From then on, he pretends to be dead until he jumps out of Hagrid's arms during the showdown at the ruins of Hogwarts and gets right to fighting. I wasn't really sure how he came back and I don't think they ever clearly said how he survived the shot that should have killed him. :-/

It's not really explained in the book as well. It's just something you have to figure out for yourself. Harry became a Horcrux. Horcruxes can only be destroyed by very powerful magic. So when Voldemort tries to kill Harry, he actually just destroys the Horcrux. I forget if it's in the movie, but Voldemort is actually knocked down and unconscious as well when he attacked Harry. When Harry starts coming to after his dream with Dumbledore (or was it real? Cant' really tell) we hear Voldemort telling Bellatrix that he is ok and doesn't need help getting up.

Also, they cut out a very powerful scene from the book. When Hagrid is holding Harry and everyone thinks he is dead as they come out Hogwarts, McGonnagall screams "NOOOO!" like bloody murder when she sees Harry. It's very moving in the book. But I'm not sure how it would have come across in the movies since I didn't pay attention to how well they built her up in the movies. For all I know, she could have come across as bland to you as Sirius or Dobby.

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Not wands in general, just the wand that is all knotted and the strongest wand ever is what I was talking about. Only the rightful owner of it can use it as they keep mentioning.

I think you misunderstood. Any wizard can use any wand. But a wand does bond with a specific wizard and works best wit that wand. If someone else picked up a random wand, they could use it but it wouldn't work as well as their own. But you can win the allegiance of a wand by defeating its owner. Dumbledore had the allegiance of the Elder's Wand. Malfoy disarmed him in HBP so Malfoy had the allegiance of the wand. Thus, the wand wouldn't work exactly right for Voldemort. It still worked, just not exactly right. Voldemort thought Snape had the allegiance since Snape killed Dumbledore, but he did not know that the allegiance had already traded when Malfoy disarmed Dumbledore. Does that clear things up for you?

What did you think of Snape's memories? I saw you comment on some of them individually, but what did you think of them collectively? Did they change your opinion of Snape? Did they make you like him more? Less? Did it not change your opinion at all?

Also, now that you've seen the entire series, who would you list as your favorite five and least favorite five characters?
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I forget if it's in the movie, but Voldemort is actually knocked down and unconscious as well when he attacked Harry. When Harry starts coming to after his dream with Dumbledore (or was it real? Cant' really tell) we hear Voldemort telling Bellatrix that he is ok and doesn't need help getting up.


It's in the movie but I had assumed it just rocked him a bit and knocked him off his feet, not straight up knocked him out, too.

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Also, they cut out a very powerful scene from the book. When Hagrid is holding Harry and everyone thinks he is dead as they come out Hogwarts, McGonnagall screams "NOOOO!" like bloody murder when she sees Harry. It's very moving in the book. But I'm not sure how it would have come across in the movies since I didn't pay attention to how well they built her up in the movies. For all I know, she could have come across as bland to you as Sirius or Dobby.


I don't know if she does in the book, but in the movie Ginny screams out in devastation at finding out Harry is "dead". That worked very well for me since I think they built up that relationship incredibly well.

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I think you misunderstood. Any wizard can use any wand. But a wand does bond with a specific wizard and works best wit that wand. If someone else picked up a random wand, they could use it but it wouldn't work as well as their own. But you can win the allegiance of a wand by defeating its owner. Dumbledore had the allegiance of the Elder's Wand. Malfoy disarmed him in HBP so Malfoy had the allegiance of the wand. Thus, the wand wouldn't work exactly right for Voldemort. It still worked, just not exactly right. Voldemort thought Snape had the allegiance since Snape killed Dumbledore, but he did not know that the allegiance had already traded when Malfoy disarmed Dumbledore. Does that clear things up for you?


They certainly didn't make it seem like that in the movie, I thought. They just kept implying that a wizard couldn't use that specific wand unless it was "their's".

I'm re-watching the scene right now. Neville kills the snake, Voldemort and Harry realize it means Voldemort can be killed now. As Voldemort and Harry do their little green vs orange duel thing, Voldemort starts losing his composure as he stares at his wand hand as Harry's beam grows closer. As he looks, his wand hand begins to... go bad. I'm not sure how else to describe it. Immediately after, it spreads up his arm, the wand flies to Harry, and Voldemort turns to ash. Harry never connects with any kind of attack in this scene.

So, I can only be left with one of three ideas of what happened:

1. The wand, being Harry's, gave out for Voldemort after he used it for too long.
2. The wand, being Harry's, gave out for Voldemort because it was being used against it's master.
3. The magic Voldemort was trying to control backfired because the wand isn't his.

No matter how it's cut, Voldemort dies in the scene because of the wand. :-/ They never even further explain it to lead you away from thinking it since the only time the wand is touched upon after this is when Hermione asks why it didn't work for him, and Harry reveals that it was really his. Then they wonder what he'll do with it, he breaks it, and that's that.

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What did you think of Snape's memories? I saw you comment on some of them individually, but what did you think of them collectively? Did they change your opinion of Snape? Did they make you like him more? Less? Did it not change your opinion at all?


They didn't really impact my opinion at all. All they did is inform me about how he loved Lily more than anyone.

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Also, now that you've seen the entire series, who would you list as your favorite five and least favorite five characters?


I was going to do a favorites list but I had forgotten.

Favorites:
1. Hagrid
I can't say a bad word about him. He's a lovable character through and through.

2. Snape
My original favorite, and still a strong contender. He's probably the most complex character in the series and, in some ways, the most personally relatable.

3. Fred & George Weasley
Every time they appear it's gold.

4. Ginny Weasley
The best reason I can think of is that she's both very likable and something about her is very comforting. She's the type of person I would very much love to have in my life so I kind of latched onto her easily.

5. Hermione Granger
Out of the main three, she was the most likable. No, not because she's pretty (although it doesn't hurt) but she seemed a little more likable than Ron but much more relatable than Harry. I genuinely wanted to see good things happen to her and cared about her fate most out of the three.

Honorable mentions:
Arthur Weasley - He was very amusing, loving, and kind. He was one of the best adults in the films by far.
Dumbledore - Off the top five because something about him rubbed me the wrong way at the end.
Ron Weasley - He had his moments of being a bit frustrating and annoying, but he was overall pretty likable.
Neville Longbottom - The lovable loser. If he had gotten more screen time towards the second half of the series, he might be able to bump Hermione off the list.

Least Favorites:
1. Dolores Umbridge
I hated even seeing her on my screen. I wanted terrible things done to her... but off-camera so I didn't have to see her.

2. Sirius Black
Maybe in the books he's worthwhile, but in the films he was a waste of time. The emphasis they put on him was pointless and misguided. His death, which was supposed to be some big heartfelt dramatic scene, fell flat and his character never really became anything other than some guy who occasionally shows up to talk to Harry and smile. All potential interest goes out the window as soon as it's revealed that he's actually a good character, rather than evil. It's not even that he's a boring waste of a character that puts him at number two, but that we're supposed to think so highly of him without ever being given any real reason to do so other than "oh, but Harry likes him a lot!".

3. The entire Dursley clan
I hate them and their cartoonish awfulness so much. They were a comedic version of Umbridge but with a lot less of a bad taste left in your mouth afterwards.

Honorable mentions - since I honestly can't think of any other characters I strongly disliked:
Draco Malfoy - He was still a sniveling coward right up until the end, although I hoped he would turn around
Dobby - I'm not putting him here to egg you on, but because I found him utterly annoying.
James Potter - A weird choice, but from what I saw from Snape's memories, I see no reason to care about him. James was a prick who happened to win the heart of a really amazing woman. He was great to Harry and Lily, but still a prick in Snape's memories - which I'll trust more as an honest opinion of someone.

I think that's it but I might be forgetting someone or something.

If you'll notice, Voldemort isn't on either list. He used to be my number two favorite character when I only knew a little about the films. As I learned more about him, though, I both lost interest and realized that after childhood, he just went downhill character wise. He's interesting as a kid - Tom Riddle - hoping to be the most powerful dark wizard, but as the grown Voldemort? He's just kind of boring really. Most of the other characters were so much more interesting. Voldemort is no longer one of my favorite movie villains. He looks cool... but that's about it.

Also, Harry has never been on my favorite characters list. I don't know what that says when after seeing the complete series I feel nothing for it's main hero and lost almost all of my interest in the main villain. I find almost all of the minor characters more interesting than either one of the two most important characters. :lol:
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I don't have a copy of DH2 (shock factor!), so I cannot rewatch that scene to see what you mean. Hopefully, I'll remember this thread when I do get another copy of DH2.

And I completely disagree with you on Voldemort becoming boring. I think he was a great villian with a very interesting background. I think that they cut so much of his backstory out of HBP may have hurt his character in the movies, though. In the book, Dumbledore showed us a lot of memories that explain so much about Voldemort. Voldemort himself is not in HBP, but we learn so much about him that you don't even notice until after you stop and think about it.
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He's a fascinating character when he's younger, but after taking on the identity of Voldemort he just becomes dull. His distant past as Tom Riddle is interesting but the everything we see in the present is just... blah.

I also always had a feeling that he was a hair away from losing, which doesn't make a villain seem like a threat at all to me. He wasn't written as manipulative very strongly but rather came off somebody who only had lackeys because they feared his power, rather than being manipulated into serving him in addition to fearing his power. A great example of a great manipulator that rarely has to demonstrate his power or hang it over people's heads in a film series is Emperor Palpatine/Darth Sidious in the Star Wars movies. He's pulling the strings and controlling so many "bad guys" with all sorts of lies and half-truths, only occasionally needing to control them by fear of his power (usually when the situation calls for it).

Voldemort however seemed like somebody who was interesting, then grew up to be some schmuck who was really strong with dark magic and so people wanted to be with him rather than against him for it. :shrug:
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Perhaps he's presented that way in the movies. I remember not liking how he's presented in the movies as well. But in the book, Voldemort is an excellent villain. He's the world's most accomplished mind reader, perhaps second to Dumbledore. You have to be extremely skilled to lie to Voldemort. The only one to ever do so is Snape. He is also very vengeful. If you are loyal to him, he rewards you plentiful. If you cross him, he punishes you to no ends. We saw scenes of him torturing his own Death Eaters (with the torture curse) because they failed him at various tasks. Voldemort is absolutely fearless as he is only known to fear 1 person (Dumbledore). Voldemort is also more accomplished at Dark Magic than anyone (again, perhaps second to Dumbledore since he knows the magic, but chooses not to use it). Voldemort is also extremely manipulative (notice how he took over the Ministry of Magic without anyone knowing?). Voldemort is also very much isolated from everyone. He has no friends. He has no love. Even his Death Eaters know very little. He'll create little circles within his own Death Eater organization. Very few know what is going on, but he knows all. He is written to be a very strong villain and I would rank him up with any other major villain.

But, as was the case with many other excellent characters, Voldemort was neutered in the movies. He still came across as powerful and fearful, but he lost a lot that was written about him.
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How Harry Potter should have ended?

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Final Minutes Of Last Harry Potter Movie To Be Split Into Seven Separate Films
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British actor Richard Griffiths, best known for playing muggle Uncle Vernon Dursley in the "Harry Potter" movies, has died.

Griffiths died Thursday at University Hospital in Coventry, England, from complications following heart surgery, his agent, Simon Beresford, told the Associated Press. He was 65.

Large in body and presence, Griffiths appeared in character roles in dozens of films and TV shows, but made his biggest mark as the boy wizard's grumpy uncle.

"Harry Potter" star Daniel Radcliffe said Griffiths' true demeanor was far kinder.

"Richard was by my side during two of the most important moments of my career," Radcliffe said in a statement. "In August 2000, before official production had even begun on 'Potter,' we filmed a shot outside the Dursleys', which was my first ever shot as Harry. I was nervous and he made me feel at ease. Seven years later, we embarked on 'Equus' together. It was my first time doing a play but, terrified as I was, his encouragement, tutelage and humor made it a joy. In fact, any room he walked into was made twice as funny and twice as clever just by his presence. I am proud to say I knew him."

Griffiths won a Tony Award for his role as a charismatic teacher in "The History Boys," and reprised the part in the 2006 film adaptation of the school drama.

Born in northeast England's Thormaby-on-Tees in 1947 to parents who were deaf and mute, Griffith had a knack for nonverbal expression.

He spent a decade with the Royal Shakespeare Co., and had parts in movies including "Withnail and I," "Gandhi," "The Naked Gun 2 1/2" and "Hugo."

Griffiths' last major stage role was in a West End production of Neil Simon's comedy "The Sunshine Boys" last year opposite Danny DeVito. The pair had been due to reprise their roles in Los Angeles later this year.

What a bummer. :(
Edited by Kame, Mar 29 2013, 07:35 PM.
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I don't know how to react.

Because I really hated that character. :lol:
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Rest in Peace, my good man.
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Damn, he died? RIP.
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I don't know how to react.

Because I really hated that character. :lol:
Well, he was really good at being really bad. He really brought the character to life. Probably one of the best over all portrayals in the series. :(

Not to sound insensitive, but I'm not really surprised to hear he's passed from heart issues. I mean, the guy was really overweight. Obesity claims another life. :(
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This is something I have been wondering since Deathly Hallows ended the series, and I forget if I've asked it before. How long do you think it'll be before they reboot the series and put them all back in the theaters? I don't know why I think they'll do it, but I expect in 20 years or so we'll be able to "re-live the magic of Harry Potter as told through the eyes of director.." whomever.
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I hope not. It kind of shoots down the goodness of the originals when that happens. I'm sure Rowling will instead write a new book, about.. say, pirates.

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I think Harry Potter is a lot like The Lord of the Rings in that while the movies might be expanded upon if at all possible, I don't think they'll see a remake of them until at least another generation or two has had time to grow up. So, like... twenty-thirty years.

Unless they end up getting extremely desperate.
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