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| WWE Money In The Bank Discussion Thread; July 15th, 2012 | |
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| Topic Started: Jun 23 2012, 10:01 PM (1,108 Views) | |
| _DL_ | Jun 23 2012, 10:01 PM Post #1 |
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![]() ![]() WWE Money In The Bank ![]() WWE Champion CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan (AJ as special guest Referee) ![]() World Heavyweight Champion Sheamus vs. Alberto Del Rio ![]() WWE Championship Contract Money In The Bank Match ![]() World Heavyweight Championship Contract Money in the Bank Ladder Match ![]() WWE Tag Team Champions R-Truth & Kofi Kingston vs. Hunico & Camacho Card Subject To Change Edited by _DL_, Jul 10 2012, 09:43 PM.
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| _DL_ | Jun 26 2012, 08:10 PM Post #2 |
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The WWE Title MITB looks meh on paper. |
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| Purple Marauder | Jun 26 2012, 08:13 PM Post #3 |
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What's the point of having people that would normally get a title shot be in the match? It's going to become the new Royal Rumble where you can predict the winner 6 months out. |
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| L69 | Jun 26 2012, 09:10 PM Post #4 |
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I hope they actually have more "Superstars" in that WWE Title MITB match, because I don't fancy watching Superman, King Kong, Hell Boy and Chris Jericho slugging out with Ladders and it only be the four of them in the match. CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan should be a good match (even though its been given away on free TV at least 100 times already), I wouldn't expect anything else from two of the best guys on the roster! |
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| _DL_ | Jun 30 2012, 06:53 AM Post #5 |
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I wholly expect it to be revealed that D-Bry and AJ was working us the entire time. Though that would mean that D-Bry would be winning the title or else it was all for naught. |
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| Cableguy15 | Jul 1 2012, 01:44 AM Post #6 |
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I think wwe forgot the golden rule of mitb: Only one big guy per match, if any at all. This is the least likely match where they can display their skills. They're not as fast as say, Jericho. Hell, Cena in a pure ladder match also sounds like bad booking. He's more suited for a TLC, because it's far more brutal, and while he's not a "Big guy", he is a "Power guy". A ladder match should feature faster wrestlers or highly athletic ones, and maybe one big guy to slow the pace down a bit. But instead we have only one fast guy, and hell, he's aged too, so who knows how he'll perform? Also I agree with you DL. I expect AJ to turn on Punk and reveal she was planning this with Bryan all along. Happened a lot in the 90's and early 2000's, so that's probably why we're suspicious. Or they may go all the way with her character and just keep having her do crazy shit, because let's face it, she's more interesting than any of the other women wrestlers at the moment. The crowd actually cares about what she's doing, unlike most of the others (And I don't really blame them for it. It's wwe's fault for making the division a joke like tag teams etc.). Also, it occurs to me that around this time one year ago, CM Punk had the hottest storyline going into mitb. Is it not the same right now? Why are him and Daniel Bryan opening Raw every night instead of closing it out like they should be? I can't understand wwe's backwards logic. It used to be that the hottest storyline or championship related storyline would be the biggest deal, but now it's neither. It's just some clumsy storyline they randomly threw together with Jericho, Cena, and Big Show. Kane doesn't even have anything to do with it. I'm sure the wwe championship mitb will also close the ppv as well. Bah, the more I think about it, the angrier I become. Edited by Cableguy15, Jul 1 2012, 02:39 AM.
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| _DL_ | Jul 5 2012, 03:09 AM Post #7 |
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It's kind of a cop out that they have both the IC and US champion in a MITB match. Not saying that hasn't happened before, but at least make one of them defend their belts. Rhodes is my pick, but I wonder if they're going to pull the trigger on Ziggler, seeing how well he preformed in his title matches and the response he's getting. |
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| Cybrus | Jul 5 2012, 12:57 PM Post #8 |
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Looking at the line up, I agree that it looks like Cody and Ziggler are the top two candidates...which makes me worry that it won't be either. WWE usually doesn't go with the obvious pick. What, it'll be our luck they give the win to Christian and have both MITB winners be former WWE/World champions. |
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| Purple Marauder | Jul 6 2012, 12:20 PM Post #9 |
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If that is true, the WWE is in worse shape than I thought. Neither guy screams main event champion. |
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| Cybrus | Jul 6 2012, 12:52 PM Post #10 |
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Yeah, because Santino, Tensai, and Tyson Kidd are all much better suited for that role, huh? Christian is a former World Champion. And Sandow is too new for anyone to really judge. Although, his character fucking sucks. |
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| L69 | Jul 6 2012, 02:47 PM Post #11 |
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To be perfectly honest (and this is the point the lynch mob come), I'll not be suprised to see Tyson Kidd win the WHC ladder match. WWE have got a way of shocking the fans... It's just a few years ago since one Jack Swagger won the match and really did not look the likely winner, especially with MVP, Matt Hardy, Christian and Kane in that match (all main event level or just about knocking on the door), so that is the dark horse and someone that I would not be suprised if WWE put over. Unfortunately, the other MITB match is going to be poor in comparison, as we all know that it's going to end the show (it's got Cena in so obviously it is the main event!), its going to lead to a former WWE champion, who in the scale of things (other than Jericho by my reckoning) have had boring as hell reigns that actually make you want to tune OUT of WWE while they are champion. I hope to hell WWE get someone else in this match that was a former champion that has the future ahead of them (praying for the Miz) or someone actually exciting to watch (Rey Rey would do nicely). |
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| Purple Marauder | Jul 6 2012, 03:16 PM Post #12 |
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How on Earth did you read that as me saying those guys would be better? I'm saying if Cody and Ziggler are the top guys the WWE has to push into the main event of a world title match, the company is in terrible shape. No one in the match, with maybe the exception of Christian, has any kind of "it" factor. |
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| Cybrus | Jul 7 2012, 11:59 AM Post #13 |
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I disagree with you. Cody had one of the best IC runs in many years. I don't think he's a focal guy that they could build the company around, but I think he'd be a great transitional champion or even a heel champion that the face could chase. Plus, this is the World Title we are talking about so what does it even matter? |
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| Purple Marauder | Jul 7 2012, 01:13 PM Post #14 |
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Kind of my point. The World title might as well be what the IC title use to be. The IC title and the US title are both irrelevant. A world/WWE champion should be a true main event wrestler that you would pay money to see. I don't know anyone that would pay just because Cody or Dolph is on the card. Or anyone even in that match to be honest with you. They should end the brand split, unify the WWE and World titles and maybe even unify the IC and US titles to make the WWE have 2 belts and both would matter at that point. |
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| Cableguy15 | Jul 8 2012, 04:06 AM Post #15 |
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The brand split isn't even the problem. Cruiserweight, US Title, and Tag Titles were all popular and meant something when Smackdown was at its best, and there's only one reason that's not the case now. It's their refusal to build new talent. Every time they manage to do it, they do it begrudgingly over a 5 year period of time. Ending the brand split, in the end, wil account for the lack of high talent guys for a short while maybe, but it doesn't solve the real problem that will come up again soon enough. On the topic of Cody Rhodes and Dolph Ziggler... Cody surpassed any expectations I had for him. He's a credible mid-upper card heel now and he's worth watching. Ziggler on the other hand? He's got some good moves in the ring, but am I the only one who thinks a brick wall has more charisma than him? I just have no interest when he talks, because he spouts the same thing, much like Del Rio, and that same thing isn't even important. It's just a bunch of generic heel lines that I've heard a billion times. His "Thing" is supposed to be that he's arrogant and a bragart? That's like a staple for every heel character ever. He's been sticking around with Vickie for what feels like years now, and her heat still hasn't rubbed off on him that much (And off-topic, her character has become stale as all hell, but that's for another time). When him and Swagger appear, if it doesn't involve someone else I care about, I change the channel. They're just... not that interesting. Good in the ring, but that's only 1/2 of what makes someone a good wrestler in professional wrestling.
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| Lionheart | Jul 8 2012, 05:46 AM Post #16 |
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That's the thing though, with the "Super Raw Show" there essentially is no longer a brand split. The only difference now is Smackdown is the show where the Champ isn't here. Having two sets of titles is ridiculously redundant at this point. I'm with Purps honestly, the WHC is really just a Glorified Mid-card tier title. They really need to start phasing out both the WHC and either the IC or US title. |
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| Cybrus | Jul 8 2012, 10:24 AM Post #17 |
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I have been a fan of Cody since he first started the "Dashing" Cody Rhodes gimmick. It's been really fun watching him grow as a performer. It's just a shame WWE pretty much stopped with him after having him lose the IC Belt to Big Show at WM. I don't think Cody Rhodes is ready to be WWE Champion or even in the hunt, at least not yet, but I do think he is one of the best mid card guys WWE has and should be a focal mid carder.
The only good thing I ever read about Ziggler is that he can sell well. I never hear about any 5 star matches he has, that he can carry any opponent, or anything like that. Just that he can sell moves. So that's what WWE uses him for: a guy that goes out and sells for other people they want to push.
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| Lionheart | Jul 8 2012, 07:02 PM Post #18 |
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The IWC is super high on the guy don't, for reasons I really don't understand. Honestly, I think he can go in the ring pretty good, but he's honestly no different than Shelton Benjamin or John Morrison. |
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| MY85 | Jul 9 2012, 02:23 AM Post #19 |
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I think that the problem with the World and WWE Titles is that no matter who's holding them, WWE selects to end their PPVs with a Cena match regardless of Cena holding a title or not. They can build up a champion great or poorly, but Cena still closes the show. Amirite? ![]() I understand WWE wanting to still have Cena as their top guy, but I they can have more than just one guy on top. Edited by MY85, Jul 9 2012, 02:24 AM.
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| Cableguy15 | Jul 9 2012, 07:56 AM Post #20 |
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Yeah, that's something that has really annoyed me lately. CM Punk and Daniel Bryan OPENING the show. Are the guys who decide the card actually monkeys or something? I can't remember any time where the champion of the entire show opens it and is never seen the rest of the night... until recently. And for good reason; you want people to stick around for your main guys and the reason that they compete (The title). This stuff should be obvious... apparently not for wwe. And maybe that's forgiveable if Cena is involved in something interesting, but yeah, that hasn't been the case lately. They really dropped the ball with Brock Lesnar. Should've kept it going into the next ppv instead of having Cena finish off Johnny, which felt out of place, stupid, and pointless since he generates a ton of heat. Now they're short another heel character, and rehashing feuds with Cena. I'm sure Punk/Bryan will not be the main event of the mitb either, but it really should be. Edited by Cableguy15, Jul 9 2012, 07:57 AM.
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| _DL_ | Jul 12 2012, 01:29 AM Post #21 |
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http://www.wwe.com/f/doc/2012/07/2012_Money_in_the_Bank_keyart_CONTRACT.pdf |
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| MY85 | Jul 12 2012, 02:05 AM Post #22 |
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It might... as long as Cena wins the Raw MITB match and cashes in after the Punk-Bryan match. Speaking of both MITB matches, I think the Raw MITB winner has yet to cash the briefcase on the same night they won it. So maybe WWE could do this via Cena. ![]() As to give the internet fans the middle finger, WWE can have Bryan win the title and quickly lose it to Cena via submission. Edited by MY85, Jul 12 2012, 02:06 AM.
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| Cybrus | Jul 14 2012, 01:33 PM Post #23 |
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This might be the least excited I have ever been by MITB. I usually like this concept, but this year feels very lackluster. Also, where's my roundtable?!
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| Purple Marauder | Jul 14 2012, 02:40 PM Post #24 |
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Because both matches are terrible. The Smackdown one has one guy in it I even care about and the Raw one guy in it I even care about. This use to be a match to sort of set up the next up and coming star to groom them from a championship match and main event opportunity. Now, we have the same guys that always get a shot in one match and a group of midcarders that aren't that great in the other. Bad times for the WWE. |
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| _DL_ | Jul 14 2012, 05:47 PM Post #25 |
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Hold your horses! |
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| Cybrus | Jul 15 2012, 11:31 AM Post #26 |
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Cody Rhodes and Dolph Ziggler are the stand out favorites to win, which kind of makes me think they won't win. Doesn't WWE usually go with the least obvious suspect? Or am that just something I've made up in my head? Of the two, I think Rhodes needs it more. Ziggler is already getting World Title shots and is technically a former World Champion (all of 11 minute title reign). Cody is someone that has never had a World Title shot and hasn't been elevated to that point. |
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| Cybrus | Jul 15 2012, 01:34 PM Post #27 |
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I kind of expect someone being added to the WWE Title MITB match at the last minute, or running out to get the cheap win. It's open to former WWE Champions. I have been thinking they could throw Orton in the match if his suspension is over (when is it over?), but Miz could work as well. I don't expect Miz though, since I don't think he'll return until his movie stuff is completely over. I suppose they could just as easily have Rey Mysterio be a surprise entrant (they are advertising him for Tuesday's SD! taping), or even have Sheamus or Del Rio work double duty (very unlikely, I know). |
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| Purple Marauder | Jul 15 2012, 02:16 PM Post #28 |
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They should have Brock run down, win it, cash it in and leave.
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| Lionheart | Jul 15 2012, 03:52 PM Post #29 |
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Would be cool actually. |
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| _DL_ | Jul 15 2012, 07:23 PM Post #30 |
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Would mark my balls off. |
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He's been sticking around with Vickie for what feels like years now, and her heat still hasn't rubbed off on him that much (And off-topic, her character has become stale as all hell, but that's for another time). When him and Swagger appear, if it doesn't involve someone else I care about, I change the channel. They're just... not that interesting. Good in the ring, but that's only 1/2 of what makes someone a good wrestler in professional wrestling.


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