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Topic Started: Jan 30 2013, 08:44 AM (7,350 Views)
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According to a report on AdAge.com, YouTube will be introducing paid subscriptions for specific channels this spring.
The article states that the cost for the subscriptions would be in the $1 - $5 range, and that the company has already reached out to a small group of channel producers. The article also states that YouTube is looking at possibly charging for content libraries and live events, like pay-per-view.

WWE recently ended several of their weekly YouTube series. While WWE isn't specifically mentioned in the article, it is possible that WWE could be one of the producers that YouTube reached out to, and use their channel as the launch for the WWE Network.


First I want to say that if the whole paid subscription thing ends up resulting in several or even many currently free channels requiring a specific subscription, then I'll be using YouTube a lot less.

As for WWE, this sounds like a possible major downgrade if they do become a simple subscription service on YouTube. It's just a theory and little more than an idea by one guy, but if it turns out to be right then I've gotta wonder how long WWE will proceed to care about it since they've already shown that their YouTube channel is kind of low priority by rebooting it several times, with this last time cancelling what I would assume was fairly popular shows - at least as popular as WWE could possibly hope their YouTube shows can get.
Edited by Kraul, May 6 2013, 10:43 AM.
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I don't Youtube that much besides episode previews and a vlogger, but it was would suck if a lot of the channels switched to the subscription model.
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No way would I pay a monthly subscription to view a youtube channel. If I've read right, this is only in the testing phase and only about 25 accounts are even eligible to do this. But how much will it suck if your average every day youtube uploader tried to make their accounts paid subscriptions. It'd kill Youtube.

As for WWE, I never watch any of their youtube channels. I've watched the one or two that was posted on the forums, but that's it. Wouldn't bother me if they did or didn't require paid subscriptions since I don't watch either way.
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:lol: @ nobody commenting on the possible downgrading of WWE Network from a television channel to a YouTube channel.
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I forgot WWE network was even still a thing. I thought they abandoned that idea and are now pretending it never existed. I mean, didn't they play a video hyping the network like 2 years ago? :lol:
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Jan 31 2013, 02:08 AM
:lol: @ nobody commenting on the possible downgrading of WWE Network from a television channel to a YouTube channel.
Probably because the writer of the article you quoted just speculated that it might be a possibility that YouTube reached out to them and even said the WWE wasn't ever mentioned except by him.

I think that ABC will soon move to YouTube and shut down their network and try to become the first major YouTube network online. Let's spread that rumor!!
Edited by Purple Marauder, Jan 31 2013, 02:40 AM.
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Every time they tried to get it going or set a date for it's debut (specific or vague), plans seem to have fell through.

A quick glimpse at the Wikipedia page seems to imply that it's been even rougher than I thought.

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On November 27, 2011, WWE launched a website encouraging fans to notify their television service provider of the WWE Network. The website first featured a countdown clock that would have expired on April 1, 2012, the same day as WrestleMania XXVIII. It was reported that WWE had launched iwantwwenetwork.com, a website encouraging fans to notify their television service provider of the WWE Network. After a short time all the contents were deleted. There have been reports that the WWE Network will make its launch in fall 2012.

On March 1, 2012, the New York Post reported WWE had yet to strike a deal with any TV providers to carry the channel.

On September 6, 2012, WrestleZone reported that the plans for the WWE Network have been put on hold indefinitely.

On November 1st in a conference call, Vince McMahon announced that WWE Network would be a premium subscription channel.


So basically...

WWE set a date for the debut of the WWE Network at April 1st, 2012 along with a website asking - but more liking begging - fans to bring attention to WWE Network by bugging their satellite/cable providers. Then they erased everything from the site a short time later, with reports saying coming out that were saying WWE Network was now being aimed to launch sometime around fall 2012.

As the original launch date approached, it was revealed by the New York Post that no satellite or cable providers seemed to be interested in the WWE Network. Then when the second more vague launch date arrived, plans for the WWE Network were put on indefinite hold - which pretty much shows that nobody is biting, still, while Vince makes it clear that the channel is going to be a premium subscription channel - like HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, etc. Perhaps stubbornly refusing to accept that the interest in WWE just isn't strong enough to warrant that vision of his.

We're now mid-Q1 of 2013 and it seems WWE Network might end up becoming a YouTube Channel instead, which is a major downgrade from the major subscription television channel vision WWE seems to have had. Not only that but they're ditching all of their already semi-popular long running YouTube shows seemingly in preparation for it, which would seem to indicate that WWE Network coming to YouTube would replace their current YouTube channel. Which right away makes me wonder what they're doing if they're cancelling off some already successful "original" programming to make room for more instead of just bringing them over and making the transition easier. :-/

TL;DR

Nobody with the money to matter is really interested in a WWE Network and hasn't been since day one, so now they may be forced to downgrade to a channel on YouTube - in the process getting rid of all the reasons anybody watched their YouTube channel in the first place.

It's almost as if WWE seems to still think it's 2000 and people are absolutely fucking crazy about them still. Pro wrestling is a dying medium of entertainment and the WWE is the bloated body floating on top of the little pond that's left. The world doesn't need more of WWE or wrestling as it is, we need less but with a higher quality.
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Jan 31 2013, 02:38 AM
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Jan 31 2013, 02:08 AM
:lol: @ nobody commenting on the possible downgrading of WWE Network from a television channel to a YouTube channel.
Probably because the writer of the article you quoted just speculated that it might be a possibility that YouTube reached out to them and even said the WWE wasn't ever mentioned except by him.
It's called a theory. :wink:

- WWE Network keeps being brought up by WWE occasionally as still some day being a thing.

- WWE cancels off all of their semi-popular shows on their YouTube channel without any obvious reason.

- YouTube plans on making several channels subscription based.

Somebody put it all together and wondered "what if?". Nobody was talking about it being set in stone or a fact or anything like that. Almost all of the shit we talk about on this site is just us theorizing or commenting on theories of other people.

Well, that and posting news articles about TV shows being cancelled. It's the blood of 6SW.
Edited by Kraul, Jan 31 2013, 02:59 AM.
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I question what kind of content WWE could possibly release to make people want to pay on Youtube. The best stuff is going to be put on Raw and PPVs. And they won't be giving up the DVD market anytime soon. These little youtube shows that they had wasn't even enough to keep me watching for free. No way would I pay for the same or similar. It would take them releasing DVD content that couldn't be bought on DVD.
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They'd probably be putting on similar shows as they used to have on their OnDemand series.

One show was Legends Roundtable where they'd get four "legends" (not even just guys who have been in WWE either) and a host, which was J.R. in most of the ones I remember seeing, and they discuss a particular topic over the course of an hour or so. So... something like the early 90s in wrestling or comparing the plus and minuses of the territory days compared to today might be subjects. And they mostly speak honestly, too, not that obviously edited, sometimes vague, pro-WWE position kind of stance you usually see in DVDs that touch on the subjects.

They could also put up entire shows from the past, so like old episodes of Nitro, or ECW on TNN, or WWF Raw is War, etc. This includes old PPVs in their entirety. And they have access to such a huge library that they could always put stuff on their that will never be seen on DVDs anyway.

It could be really cool...

...but I don't know if it's cool enough to actually pay for a subscription. If they put out old shows like that on a regular basis, then I could consider it so I could watch wrestling from the days when I lived to watch it. But if it ends up mostly being pro-WWE propaganda or mostly stuff from today, then I'll avoid that shit like that a plague.
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Yeah, they do have a huge video library. The largest video library in wrestling history (since they buy everyone elses). the problem is that they never really use it properly. If they would just show full episodes of old shows, I'd buy. But they either wouldn't or they'd just show edited clips that made WWE look good.
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Well I think with their OnDemand service or something of their's they were playing the entire Nitro library from start to finish or something like that. Like each episode as they were and in order. I never looked too deeply into it but I remember hearing something about that from time to time.
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Jan 31 2013, 02:08 AM
:lol: @ nobody commenting on the possible downgrading of WWE Network from a television channel to a YouTube channel.
Can't say I'm surprised. If this was during the 90's when the Attitude Era was at it's peak it might have worked, but an all wrestling channel in an age where wrestling is just no longer mainstream? It would've went the way of G4.
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Nah, cause at least G4 lasted a lot of years before falling to the way side. I think a WWE Network on television as a subscription channel would go as well as the XFL did, and would probably be a failure attached to Vince McMahon forever - just like the XFL has been.
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Not really an update but kind of an update:

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DirecTV issued a survey to its subscribers to gauge interest in the WWE Network. "DirecTV is considering offering its customers a new premium TV network and would like your input," reads the survey.

The WWE Network description states that there would be a separate monthly fee for the network, and 11 of the 12 current pay-per-view events would be shown on the network. WrestleMania would be the only pay-per-view event not offered as part of the WWE Network package. It also states that pay-per-per view events will still be available for purchase for those who don't subscribe.

Powell's POV: Other teased options are new and classic programming, repeats of Raw and Smackdown. The Monday Night War is the only show mentioned by name. Obviously, this is a big sign that WWE is moving forward with the network plans. It should be a big topic of conversation when Vince McMahon hosts a conference call to discuss the quarterly financial report on February 28.
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Hmm. Sounds interesting. It'd probably be the only way I would ever watch the non-WrestleMania pay-per-views... legally... since they tend to feel like little more than slightly bigger Raws whenever I do see them.
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I think it would depend on how much the channel cost per month. For some reason, I am seeing a ridiculous price like $50 a month. No way would I pay that.
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HBO only cost $16. If WWE charged more than $15-20 they can suck it.
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From the financial results from WWE's fourth quarter of 2012:

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"In the fourth quarter, we continued to make important progress on our key strategic initiatives, expanding the production and licensing of new programs and enhancing our brands," stated Vince McMahon, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. "Although we did not announce the launch of a domestic television network during the year, we believe, now more than ever, that we can realize the full value of our intellectual property using a variety of approaches in our global markets. Our confidence is based on the rising value of content and the tremendous global appeal of our brands."


So... is a WWE Network still a go or...?

It almost seems like it's being mentioned in a "didn't happen, but oh well because" kind of way to me. So maybe the WWE Network is dead?
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WWE had a conference call a few days ago, and WWE Network-related topics came up several times:

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The WWE Network was brought up and they were asked if there was a potential timeline. Barrios repeated they are not going to prognosticate publicly. They are working on negotiating with distributors domestically and noted they have spoken to a few potential international distributors. They have been working on creating content and feel the Network will be a potential driver for the company by 2015.

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They were asked about the Yahoo.com deal and how similar the deal was with Youtube. Barrios declined to comment saying they don't like to comment on commercial terms since they are different partners. The Yahoo deal will be figured into the third quarter.

They were asked about the new TV shows. Vince McMahon said the Divas series on The E! Network is being designed to appeal to the female demographic. The more shows they have and the more flexible that programming is on different networks, it all helps their footprint as they try to launch their own Network. The shows would be a way to promote the Network through all the different outlets.

On Legends House being potentially launched this summer on a cable network, Barrios seemed surprised that was brought up and said it was still designed as a "Network program at this time" for the company. They seemed to avoid the idea that it may launch elsewhere, which is something that we've heard discussed of late from sources, since the content is almost a year old already.
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WWE CFO George Barrios talked company business at JP Morgan's 41st annual Global Technology, Media and Telecom conference on Thursday.

There wasn't much new about the WWE Network but he noted that they are now looking to price it between $9.99 and $14.99 per month, a bit lower than previous estimates.
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Earlier today, WWE's CFO George Barrios gave a presentation at the Citi Global Consumer Conference in New York City. Here's what he said about the WWE Network, courtesy of PWInsider.com:

"The program grid for the network will center around our monthly Pay-Per-Views [except WrestleMania], so those will become the culminating events of storylines and so on. We are also going to create retrospective content from our library. So that's not just running library footage. That's creating kind of compelling stories around past areas of WWE.

So for example one of the series that we've created is called the Monday Night War, so it's takes a look back at both what's happened inside the ring and outside the ring when Vince McMahon and Ted Turner were battling in the late 90s, so that will be a 15 episode series thereabouts and it's tested really well. So that's an example of content of mining our library.

What we are also going to do in the original content, I mean for example we announced a reality series with E! recently called Total Divas, it's a reality series anchored around our Diva superstars, so we know we can create reality series. I think you would see things like that on the network.

So it will be a different flavour than RAW and SmackDown, which will be our anchored program and broadcast lively. The network will be for those hard core casual may be some less fans to get that little bit extra at a price front that we think is just a lot more interesting than that $45 or $55 monthly [PPV price], which we think is just tougher for big player to consume."


I thought Triple H was the CFO??
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Triple H is the CEO: Chief Executive Officer. :tu:
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I thought it was COO? Or did he get promoted since then?
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Bumping an old thread, but it looks like WWE is at it again:

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WWE EVP Stephanie McMahon revealed at New York City Television Week that WWE is targeting a 2014 first quarter launch of the WWE Network. You can read more at http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/496334-_NYCTVWK_WWE_Looks_To_Build_Through_Second_Screen.php.


Wasn't this suppose to launch like 2 years ago? I thought WWE had silently given up on the idea, actually. At this point, after all the delays and silence, this is something I'll have to see to believe. Not to sound cynical, but I fully expect another delay as this new working deadline approaches.
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It would be a great channel for background noise.
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It will end up as a YouTube channel.
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- We noted before that people within WWE are under the impression that the WWE Network will finally launch before WrestleMania XXX. Very few people internally are aware of any details past the point that WWE is shooting a lot of footage for the Network but nobody has been told when it would be airing.

One source notes that WrestleMania XXX is strongly being talked about as a way to lure people to sign up for the Network, with the idea that they can get a huge amount of sign-ups immediately if people realize they can get WrestleMania in HD for "free" by signing up for a $9.95 per month program that comes with a lot more WWE content.

The hope is if fans sign up, most won’t cancel, will like what content is offered including the monthly PPV "for free," and it won’t be a slow growth but an instant hit.
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