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I loved the Heyman one just because it was the first time I heard the story of how he got his start in the business. I had zero idea about any of his career up until WCW, but in hindsight the story is so Heyman.
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Q FROM IMPRACTICAL JOKERS IS GOING TO BE ON THE EDGE AND CHRISTIAN SHOW NEXT WEEK!!!!! YES!!!!!!

AND XAVIER WOODS WAS WEARING A FALLOUT SHIRT DURING THE CLIP FOR NEXT WEEK!!!

Oh...and...um...VINCE MCMAHON'S CHARACTER ON CAMP WWE MADE A FOO FIGHTERS REFERENCE THIS WEEK!!!

This is like the greatest shit ever.
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i am rewatching summerslam 1994. this owen/bret cage match is one of the best cage matches i have ever seen. owen is so believable in his attempts to get out of the cage. he is is running, dashing, damn near leaping over the cage. so many people, especially currently, get to the cage and slowly try to get out, so slw that you can tell they are waiting to be caught. not owen!! bret is having to stay alert to catch up with him. at one point, owen was already over the cage before bret even got up. good stuff!!!

and i know i harp on title designs a lot, but the titles on this show are gorgeous! the tag titles look prestegious. the ic title just looks better. idk if the metal is thicker or if it just looks better on a black stap, but it is great. the wwf title is the winged eagle, so you know that is great. the only ugly title is the women's title

undertaker vs undertaker is the final match. over owen vs bret? dafuq!
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I rewatched Bash at the Beach 2000 where Jarrett laid down for Hogan to pin him, and having the whole re-do thing come back with Jarrett vs Booker. I was only wanting to watch that happen but decided to just watch the entire PPV (well, I was on my comp browsing the net) but it was a decent PPV. Hearing the announcers trying to commentate after that whole thing went down between Hogan/JJ/Russo was awkward...they did their best to keep it going but were also swerved by what had happened.
Edited by Sir Shorty, May 12 2016, 01:41 AM.
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I might watch BatB '96, where Hogan turns heel.
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The best thing about Bash at the Beach 2000 is that you can almost hear the moment when everyone watching including the announcers start thinking "oh fuck we are screwed, aren't we?" It made a small amount of sense from a storyline perspective to build the newer and younger guys and throw away the older ones, but it backfired so massively since it made WCW look amateurish and unable to control their own product. Even with authority angles where wrestlers start to revolt, there is usually some semblance of controlled chaos. The fact that they actually scripted this shit to take place on a PPV is the complete opposite of that. It became a war between Hogan and Russo, and ignored building the actual talent it was supposedly trying to help.
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I'm watching some Table for 3 episodes and one of the recent ones has Michelle McCool, Molly Holly, and Candice Michelle on it. It's seriously the most random pairing for anything ever. I actually liked Candice a lot because unlike most of the other ones (Maria may be another exception) it seemed like she was always trying to get better.
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Has anyone bothered watching Holy Foley? Just got through all five episodes and it's quite terrible. Couldn't come off as being more scripted. Also, the entire Foley family annoys me greatly.
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I cannot agree more. I watched thinking MAYBE it will be good. But it isn't. At alll.
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The trailers for that Foley show makes me want to choke a cat.
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is the entire point of Holy Foley to turn Noelle into a sex symbol? feels that way. everyone else wearing average baggy clothes and she is all dressed up in every shot, even showing a photoshoot. i mean, they arent pimping her out, dont get me wrong. but they have clearly set her apart visually from her family

also, i cannot really get into this show.
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Think of it as Hogan's reality show trying to do the same for Brooke. It's literally the same concept, it just isn't as funny.
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From what I have read, it seems to me that basically, she wanted to become a WWE Diva and told her dad. Mick basically took over from there and got the show to make her famous. They can sell it with Mick involved so that's what he did, but it's just a vehicle to push her like you said.
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I still don't fucking understand how his son is a WWE writer though. They'll hire any person off the streets to write the shows apparently.
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nevermind, i found it

one of the sites i go to will often have viewing parties where they pick a random show on the network and view it as "live". it is good fun, especially since there is a good chance you have either forgotten the results or never watched that show anyway.

the show they most recently watched was the final Nitro. i watched as well. it was good fun. but then i decided to watch all of Nitro, the entire series. but this is a show that ran for 7 years and some 50 shows a year. it is going to take time. and i often watch multiple shows in a row. i am starting in 1995 and the shows are only 1 hour long at this time and i do skip matches sometimes.

anyway, on to the point of this post. on a service like netflix, it keeps track of where yoy are at in a series. you can immediately go to the next episode even of youve gone a week between viewings. does wwe network have this feature? because i am going into the vault, going to wcw nitro, selecting a year, and then looking at the thumbs going "did i watch this one....i am not sure??"

i know there is a "continue watching" option for the last thing you were watching, but if i get to a ppv and wanna check that out or if i watch anything else on the network then this feature doesnt really work as well
Edited by Cybrus, Oct 5 2016, 11:25 AM.
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Obviously you found it, but I have that problem with Total Divas. I don't watch TD religiously, but I keep it on as background noise until the backstage segments happen because I find them extremely interesting seeing some behind the scenes stuff (even if it's part/mostly scripted). But when I do that and go back, a lot of times it'll post the show as only being half watched or say episode 9 will come up as a viewed but not 7 and 8, and because I'm not paying attention to the entire show, I'm not exactly sure if I saw it or not even when going back to watch it. :lol:

I don't understand how hard it is to come up with a good layout for on demand programming. WWE's is somewhat confusing especially when you want to watch one of the old DVD documentaries (because there's one that says originals and one that says beyond the mat or something and they both have documentaries) and some new episodes that are available on demand aren't even tabbed. I ran into that with E&C where I had to favorite the show just so it showed up in a folder where I can watch it because it only had one preview episode listed when in reality three were already available.

Netflix has a GREAT layout. WWE not good. Hulu not really but it's okay. Amazon's is absolutely terrible. If you watch a TV series, finish an episode and go back, the show doesn't even appear in the continue watching or recently viewed boxes and you have to search for it all over again. It's ridiculous.
Edited by WWEFootos48, Oct 5 2016, 12:08 PM.
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i never used amazon nor hulu. my only experience is with netflix, hbo go, and my satellite. netflix is extremely user friendly. it is very easy to get exactly where you stopped, even if you stop in the middle of streaming. hbo go was needlessly complicated, at least on my firestick. it wouldnt mark what was viewed, i had to search for my show every time i opened the program, and rewinding was such a pain that it was almost easier to just start over from the beginning. wwe network is somewhere in between those services. for all the awards they boast, they sure could upgrade their layout and make it more user friendly. but at the same time, it isnt the absolute worst i have used either
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I agree with you on that Cy. Not the best but not the worst. I have Hulu and sometimes, it doesn't tell me which episode I've watched (I'm watching all of the Pokemon episodes, they are very short and pretty much pointless, so it's hard to remember which episode I stopped on).

When I was using WWE Network on my 360, it didn't have the option to forward through shows with the bench marked spots, or whatever. Unless it's an option you have to enable?
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i use the network on an amazon firestick. i can either fast forward or use the bullet point jump points. i used it on my laptop before it broke and same thing. :shrug:
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I haven't watched an old show since getting an XBOX One...I've been itching to watch the final Nitro lately.
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i am off monday and tuesday and have been marathoning Nitro. i am just finishing episode 13, which sounds like a lot but each episode is only about 45 minutes long (Nitro was only an hour long with commercials at this time) plus, i have been skipping some matches...because who the hell wants to watch Craig Pitbull Pitman wrestle?

i have made it through the build of and aftermath of 2 PPVs (halloween havoc, world war 3). wcw does this annoying thing after a ppv where they promise to show footage from the ppv, but give absurd reasons why it is airing at the end of the show. for example, one excuse was the footage was on the way and they would air it as soon as it got there. did we really fall for this tactic back then? now, we would call it out as a ploy to keep us watching until the end and point out they drive with the footage in there trucks anyway :lol:

i remember them doing this same thing to hype Thunder when it debuted. from what i remember, they claimed a judge had the footage and wouldnt release it until thursday so tune in for Thunder. or was Thunder on wednesdays? whichever day it was. i remember hating this back then, but completely forgot it was a tactic they apparently did a lot
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Oct 5 2016, 03:51 PM
i remember them doing this same thing to hype Thunder when it debuted. from what i remember, they claimed a judge had the footage and wouldnt release it until thursday so tune in for Thunder.
What!! Why would a judge have the PPV footage!?! :lol: :lol: When I watch them back I'm going to have to listen out for this kind of thing!

I'm currently nearing the end of the 1998 raws/ppvs, I never noticed before just how many run ins and dq/unclean finishes there were with matches on Raw, I guess that was just the norm back then so you got used to it :lol:
Edited by SpaceOdyssey, Oct 5 2016, 09:58 PM.
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My favorite (though this was Nitro not Thunder) was when they aired a Giant/Big Show vs. Hulk Hogan match during the commercials of the show that came on after Nitro. I think they claimed the show ran long so they had to cut in that way, but in reality it was because TNT wanted the lead-out show (not even sure what show it was) to get high ratings so they used wrestling to do that. I'm pretty sure they showed the match during every commercial break, too. :lol:

Yeah, Raw in the late 90's was bad with that. They would advertise like 12 matches in the first segment but each match would be 2 minutes then a weird DQ finish. I still remember watching one show where Shawn Michaels appeared in 6 different segments for no reason, half the time being with Vince and the other half helping/talking to DX and from a storyline standpoint zero of it made sense.

I'm definitely starting to feel that the whole appeal of the Attitude era of how much of a fast-paced train wreck it was. It wasn't like WCW's train wreck where they would have 20 minute "on a pole" matches each show, but one of those train wrecks where somehow from week to week you have crazy shit going on then by the PPV they actually somehow found a way to make it make sense. It took serious talent back then to pull that off.
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i remember them doing this same thing to hype Thunder when it debuted. from what i remember, they claimed a judge had the footage and wouldnt release it until thursday so tune in for Thunder.
What!! Why would a judge have the PPV footage!?! :lol: :lol:
i cannot remember why a judge haf the footage. it was a controversial finish from the night before at the ppv, but i dont remember the details. it is going to be months until i get to that point as well. i think that happened in like 1997 or 1998 and i am just now going into december of 1995. :lol:

also, this is probably one of those "no one else cares but me" moments, but i am having a lot of fun reliving wcw like this. some of the storylines at this time are pretty bad, but a lot of it is really good. i wish they had the wcw saturday night archives online as well, because they keep hyping stuff during nitro for their saturday show (which i used to watch) and i'd like to watch.
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My favorite (though this was Nitro not Thunder) was when they aired a Giant/Big Show vs. Hulk Hogan match during the commercials of the show that came on after Nitro. I think they claimed the show ran long so they had to cut in that way, but in reality it was because TNT wanted the lead-out show (not even sure what show it was) to get high ratings so they used wrestling to do that. I'm pretty sure they showed the match during every commercial break, too. :lol:

Yeah, Raw in the late 90's was bad with that. They would advertise like 12 matches in the first segment but each match would be 2 minutes then a weird DQ finish. I still remember watching one show where Shawn Michaels appeared in 6 different segments for no reason, half the time being with Vince and the other half helping/talking to DX and from a storyline standpoint zero of it made sense.

I'm definitely starting to feel that the whole appeal of the Attitude era of how much of a fast-paced train wreck it was. It wasn't like WCW's train wreck where they would have 20 minute "on a pole" matches each show, but one of those train wrecks where somehow from week to week you have crazy shit going on then by the PPV they actually somehow found a way to make it make sense. It took serious talent back then to pull that off.
I always remember watching the Mortal Kombat show after Nitro was over, so maybe that was it because I'm pretty sure the show sucked (was awesome to me as a kid though!)
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I was doing something similar with WWE. I wanted to watch every single ppv in order. I got from WM1 to Survivor Series 95 before I got bored and stopped. Then I moved to my girlfriends and the cable service they have here don't carry the network. Fucking Canada eh.

But seriously, 95 was rough. Bret Hart was the best thing going and he was midcarding for some reason while Nash and Shawn were main eventing. I love Shawn Michaels but I think this is why I always veiwed Bret Hart as being better than Shawn. Because as soon as Shawn got to the top, WWE was shit
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95 wasnt completely terrible. i am just now starting 96, and Nitro has been pretty good. things like Macho Man being a 2 time World Champion, the reformation of the 4 horsemen and arn anderson being unable to control brian pillman. Flair being awesome. the introduction of chris benoit and eddie gurerro along with the cruiserweights to come (rey soon, i think). and my favorite storyline right now is the sting/luger friendship. luger is definitely a heel, aligned with heel groups and feuding with Macho Man. but he is also friends with Sting and protects Sting even from other heels. this causes a lot of stress for sting as macho and hogan continuously question sting's alliance.

that isnt to say it is ALL good right now, because it isnt. anything with the dungeon of doom is cringe worthy. hulk hogan dressing in black (a full year before the nwo happened) and being "evil hogan" was horrible. youtube that one "evil hogan" promo where he wore a mask to see how bad it was. hogan throwing giant off the roof of a building and then the giant wrestling moments later was stupid. and hogan constantly stealing Macho Man's spotlight is annoying as fuck

so, basically, if you skip through the hogan/dungeon of doom stuff, wcw is a really fun product at this time. biscoff opens every broadcast bragging about Nitro being #1 every week, and i can see why. the product is mostly good




https://youtu.be/kU-3yDeIdrw

that is the promo. i saw a thumbnail of another with hogan and macho man. i think that happens really soon as macho/hogan face like 8 people in that terrible 3 tier cage match at Uncensored, but i am just now going into SuperBrawl 96 so it is a bit longer

nwo forms in the summer of 96, right? i am not gonna look it up, but i think this is the year it starts
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I always remember watching the Mortal Kombat show after Nitro was over, so maybe that was it because I'm pretty sure the show sucked (was awesome to me as a kid though!)
I had to look this one up because I remember a couple of lead-outs and this one was for The New Adventures of Robin Hood. WCW pulled some sleezy shit back in the day but I think this is the worst one of all...making fans sit through a crappy TV show so the ratings for it will be high and impressive Turner execs which in turn makes WCW's drawing power look good. :lol:

And I agree with Shows, I watched the shows head to head in '95 and '96 when they would have that feature on the WWE 24/7 service when that was a thing. Raw was okay sometimes, but even though WCW wasn't a bad show, I just found it kind of boring for awhile. I don't know what it is, but I feel like watching WCW and seeing Arn and Mongo and Mean Gene it's like I'm watching a bunch of old guys before they were even considered "old" and it began bugging me.
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interesting...

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WWE is doing market research regarding a tier-based system for the WWE Network. It’s not a definite but WWE is very strongly looking at a four-tiered system where there would be free access to the network. The free tier would include video clips (5 minutes or less per clip), the video archive, and you can only watch up to 5 hours per month. It would also include commercials and would be available on all devices. The free tier also includes the live stream but they would black out the pay-per-views, NXT and the Cruiserweight Classic.

The first paid tier would be $4.99/month and it would include the “Big Four” events (Royal Rumble, WrestleMania, SummerSlam and Survivor Series). NXT would not be available on the live stream but you would have access to NXT on-demand. This tier would also include limited commercials and would only be available on phones and tablets.

The $9.99 tier would be the same content that they have now with a couple of upgrades added with limited commercials and it would be available on all devices. It would also include new weekly episodes of the Cruiserweight Classic so it looks like the CWC will be returning as a regular show instead of just a yearly tournament.

The $14.99 tier would include footage of non-WWE promotions and there would be no commercials. Fans would also get perks like early ticket access to events, offline content downloads, small group online chats, 2nd screen content and invites to in-person VIP meet-ups. I should note that WWE specifically mentions TNA and ROH as possible promotions that you’d be able to see in the $14.99 tier. Basically, this price tier includes everything from the other tiers plus the perks and content from independent promotions.

It’s no secret that they are in talks with TNA about getting ownership of their library. It’s not known if these talks are just for their old footage or if new content is included. Dave Meltzer is reporting that there are also some rumblings about talks with Ring Of Honor but it’s unknown if that’s just for their library or if that also includes live events. This sounds similar to UFC’s Fight Pass service. UFC airs live events from other promotions on their streaming service and if that’s what WWE is attempting to do then I think it’s a great idea.

Another cool thing that is being considered for the $14.99 tier is allowing fans to vote for the WWE Hall Of Fame.


of course, they would have to work out a deal with tna and roh before this could happen.
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I probably wouldn't get the top-tier one if the only library they get is TNA because it won't be something I'll constantly be watching the network for, but if they got something like PWG or CHIKARA footage? I would go crazy. The idea definitely has interest from me.
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