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SmackDown Discussion Thread; Everything Smacked Down into one convenient thread
Topic Started: Sep 11 2015, 12:36 AM (6,786 Views)
Sir Shorty
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Glad to hear Ryder getting a small push...and Lesnar v Orton should be awesome.
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Following the controversial finish on Raw, Shane has announced Rollins vs Ambrose for the WWE Title on SmackDown Live tonight
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I'm DVRing it. What the fuck WWE seriously. How the hell is this possible.
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Cybrus
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similar to Raw, SD has to do a storyline reset and is tasked with finding a new #1 contender. the solution is a 6 person match. 5 participants were announced, the 6th won it via battle royal. it came down to kane vs apollo and i was ready to groan if sd started their "new" with another kane victory. fortunately, apollo won it. i dont think he should win the #1 contenders match later, but this was a good win.

shelton benjamin is coming back to smackdown

Backlash was announced as the first SmackDown exclusive PPV set for september 11
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Cybrus
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why the hell did they draft carmella to smackdown? they should have put her back with Enzo and he would have gotten her very over. she is going to flounder on her own

eva marie's introduction tho :lol:
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rhyno just returned to gore a complaining heath slater. heath slater was actually entertaining. rhyno just felt like a step backwards
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Cybrus
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dolph ziggler wins? it is dolph vs ambrose for the title at SummerSlam? idk about this. i mean, dolph is a poplular guy and would be a fine challenger at any B show, but SummerSlam? dolph has lost way too much to be a big challenger at SummerSlam

over all, SD immediately felt less than Raw. as usual
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What the fuck is up with Rhyno coming back? I'd much rather have Heath Slater than a washed up Rhyno.
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Jesus Christ, Raw pushes a guy who literally just debuted onto the main roster the day he wins a #1 contenders match for the title. Everyone loves it. Then Ziggler, on a show where it was guaranteed they were going to try to give people who deserve it the chance, wins to get a match at SS. The guy that was once so over his name was chanted all through an episode of Raw until he cashed in his MITB contract. The one guy on the roster where most fans openly say "THAT is the guy who should have gotten a chance" now that Barrett and Rhodes are gone. The guy who would have been a main eventer easy if he didn't go out with a massive concussion when he was about to get his break. The guy who then got stuck in the midcard and started doing midcard things because they literally didn't have anything for him even though he had the motivation to be the best. The guy who was compared to Daniel Bryan for his size and fan adoration (and head injuries!) and now Bryan is in power on a show he's on. People are shitting all over it.

How does that not make perfect sense that the shot goes to him from a story perspective? People don't have to like him, of course, but it makes PERFECT sense that it would be him in the context of the show, and even in the context of the match where he wasn't overly dominating so it's not like he suddenly gained super powers. Come on, would people rather want Rusev or Cena vs. Ambrose for the title?
Edited by WWEFootos48, Jul 27 2016, 02:36 PM.
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well, i mean, rusev is on Raw. my issue is exactly what you said. Ziggler WAS...all that is past tense. Ziggler has been booked terribly for the past 3 years. i am not anti ziggler. i happen to like ziggler a lot and screamed "hell yeah!" when he cashed in on Del Rio. i just think he needs time to rebuild himself and gain momentum. as is, it is a foregone conclusion that ambrose will retain, and that is not how you want to go into your second biggest show of the year
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But I think it works because he needs a higher spotlight. You throw AJ or Cena in the match and it's like "okay well they're already main eventers and this could have been saved down the line anyway" but then when you have Ziggler, there isn't much other way you can build him back up unless you throw him right in the middle of it and have him show off the charisma and skills he used to have. All of that is in past tense, but it also shows he can do it if given the chance, and now he's being given the chance.

To me, it isn't like he isn't battle tested, so he can foreseeably tear the house down and possibly even out-perform Ambrose in this situation and that would be very interesting to see. And on the meta side, he is an internet darling and WWE can always play it like "see this guy is loved by the universe for his hard work and dedication so fans will love this" and then just have him go all heel and shit on them for not seeing it until now. :lol:
Edited by WWEFootos48, Jul 27 2016, 02:41 PM.
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Also the Rhyno thing. I can care less about him, but I appreciate that he can come in, hit one move, and still get a huge pop. He's at that point of his career where he can be used that way almost like Ron Simmons. I mean, if he's having full-length matches then fuck him and WWE, but... :lol:

Also his re-debut was perfect. Slater was always known for being squashed by former high profile guys so him coming out and getting TV time complaining just for him to get attacked by Rhyno fits his narrative well.
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Cybrus
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this isnt exactly rhyno's return to the wwe, btw. he has been on nxt for a while now, helping talent
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Jul 27 2016, 02:38 PM
but then when you have Ziggler, there isn't much other way you can build him back up unless you throw him right in the middle
so if you domt properly build him back up and throw him in the middle of it and he loses on the second biggest ppv of the year....where does ziggler go then? again, i am a ziggler fan and have no problem with him being in the title picture. i just think taking a guy that has been poorly booked for 3 years and randomly putting him in a wwe title match at SummerSlam isnt very compelling. there is no doubt in my mind that ziggler will out perform ambrose, since ziggler is the better worker. but there is also no doubt that ambrose is winning either.

i know i am a bray mark, but i would have preferred bray winning and going to summerslam. he is coming off a strong return, a ppv win, and has been booked to be intimidating again. ambrose and bray have a storied history. it would have been easy to slide back into that feud. my guess is they are saving this for later, after more bray build?
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Jul 27 2016, 03:34 PM
there is no doubt in my mind that ziggler will out perform ambrose, since ziggler is the better worker. but there is also no doubt that ambrose is winning either.
And you are 100 percent right but I don't think a loss here will hurt Ziggler either considering how badly he's been treated the last few years. I almost feel like in this era he can work his ass off, lose, and have it acknowledged as a moral victory. That's why I think something like him going from nobody to somebody this fast can do nothing but help him.

And Bray I think would have been a better choice if not for the fact that Ambrose will probably be winning this match no matter what. Bray would hurt way more from a loss right now than anyone just because of how strong his promos and lead-ins are yet how unsuccessful he's been in terms of big matches. I would love to see a Bray/Ambrose thing going and it could easily be the main event title picture for a few months.
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Who's excited for Shelton Benjamin coming to SD!?
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WWE can get away with Dolph as a challenger to Ambrose's title. Neither title match will close the show because WWE will most likely put Lesnar/Orton as the final match of the PPV.
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I actually how that's not the main event. Most likely it'll be the Universal title since it's new and the Raw brand title.
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i am having a hard time adjusting to SD being on Tuesdays. here it is thursday and i am still mentally expecting to come home from work and watch. it has always been on thurs or fri. with all wwe on sun, mon, and tues....it makes a long stretch for the rest of the week.
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Yeah, I was thinking about that too...on PPV weeks, you'll get 3+ hours on Sunday, 3 hours on Monday, and 2 hours on Tuesday...you can easily get burnt out, hah hah.
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You know it's not even burning out, it's that the best weeks of wrestling we will get it three straight nights...there's no breaks. I LOVE that, but then wtf am I supposed to do the rest of the week? I'm not doing the impact thing so how the hell am I supposed to ride the wave of amazing shows through the end of the week? On a PPV week, we get three amazing nights of wrestling, then four nights of nothing unless we count NXT, which idk if we can yet.
Edited by WWEFootos48, Jul 28 2016, 08:29 PM.
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this is one of the reasons i am looking forward to 2 ppvs a month. ik i complain about some wwe things, but it is out of love. extra ppvs is a good thing to me, especially with the wwe network being so cheap and accessable. i understood when ppvs cost so much, but now it is the best thing. i do wonder how much more successful the original brand split and even the network itself would be if we had it during the start of the first draft. there were a lot more people watching then, so i think the numbers would have been higher. and there was even a point (when paul heyman was booking) that SD even had higher ratings than Raw, so it wasnt always the lesser brand.
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The funny thing is during the first split there were SO MANY variables to say what the best show was. a 3.1 for SD and a 3.4 for Raw meant a tie in ratings because of the difference between broadcast and cable, but Raw's production costs were higher because as a live show you have the satellite feed. But then also naturally you expect more from advertising. But then SD expected more because it was on a then-broadcast network that had some pretty good shows that it wanted to advertise during it.

Today it's Raw and SD on the same channel, both live, just different nights. One can argue that Raw being 3 hours will change how it looks advertising-wise, but besides that USA wants BOTH to succeed just as equally when at the time of the first split it actually was a split and Spike and UPN were expecting different things.

That's the most interesting part of it to me. WWE announced their highest earnings quarter EVER, and it's coming at a time when people are arguing the WWE is the best it's been in over a decade. This is looking really good and I am fucking excited to see what will happen next.
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I jumped in joy when Dolph Ziggler won the 6 man match. Part of me is thinking the same thing as Cybrus. Too little too late. I mean the guy just spent time losing pre show matches. Now fighting for the WWE Championship at Summerslam. Its obvious this is just to give Ambrose a win and a title defence. But what I'm hoping for is Dolph Ziggler to come out of this better than he was going into it. I'm hoping with the brand split Dolph Ziggler becomes a main eventer once again.

Also I was super excited when I saw Shelton Benjamin is coming back. Gotta bring back Carlito too!

The shitty parts of Smackdown was the camera angles. Have they been doing this on edited Smackdowns before? Some of them were so bad, looked ameture and missed stuff. The other thing was Zack Ryder. This guy is god awful. What the fuck was that? How is he popular?
Edited by 15 Shows, Jul 30 2016, 11:24 PM.
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I see Shelton vs Ziggler coming pretty soon. They should put on some great matches for TV and could probably get away with a series.
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i see shelton benjamin being the guy that takes the IC title off the miz
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Okay only my opinion but how good would a series work? The last good one was Benoit and Booker but even that one was like "oh shit it actually makes me wanna watch."
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Neither one has the mic skills to carry a traditional feud, that why I suggest a series.
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Jul 31 2016, 11:58 PM
Neither one has the mic skills to carry a traditional feud, that why I suggest a series.
I wouldn't compare Ziggler and Benjamins mic skills. I mean I like Shelton but he mic skills were bad. Dolphs are pretty good.
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