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| WWEFootos48 | Dec 22 2016, 03:33 PM Post #571 |
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I just saw it and thought it was hilarious. I can see why WWE can be mad at it (and I guess it was edited from hulu and YouTube as proof of it), but I've always liked when wrestlers poke fun at other stuff on the show that they're not involved in. Speaking of which, I saw a stat on Reddit that said if Ric Flair won his world titles at the same frequency Charlotte has won hers, he'd be a 209-time world champion.
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| 15 Shows | Dec 23 2016, 06:38 AM Post #572 |
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Ric Flair is a 2 time World Champion. Don't believe the myth. |
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| WWEFootos48 | Dec 23 2016, 12:46 PM Post #573 |
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I honestly couldn't care less about how many titles Flair has had. Maybe it was a big deal back in the day but I can't take title reigns seriously when Cena's won it 15 times even though there was a point between 2005 and 2011 where it seemed like he was never not champion, Reigns has won it 3 times, and even guys like Bryan and Punk were multiple time champions yet both are only remembered for one reign each. Orton is in the double digits and I think Edge has over 10 reigns as well which is like "wtf? Really?" The numbers have been inflated so much both due to the first brand split and the MITB contract that I think anyone mid-card or higher has been champion at some point. Edited by WWEFootos48, Dec 23 2016, 12:55 PM.
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| Sir Shorty | Dec 23 2016, 03:42 PM Post #574 |
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Yeah, I'd agree with Footos48, but it makes it a little more exciting now with things like the MITB...though I was bummed the contract got used so quickly. I like having that possibility of a title change at any given moment. |
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| WWEFootos48 | Dec 23 2016, 06:08 PM Post #575 |
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I absolutely agree, I think it was mostly those few years in like 2008-2011 when both brands had a winner so Punk, Bryan, Swagger, Kane, and even Miz won the title where the concept could have easily gone in the other direction and be cast in a more negative light. The funny part is that I like every single one of those guys barring Swagger and don't mind any one of them as champion barring Kane, yet their wins all felt like simply a moment and not a real thing that transitioned the company in any way. Bryan's moment came at WM 30 when he became the most over guy in a decade, Punk's came in 2011 that culminated with him beating Del Rio and holding the title for over a year, Miz did what he could (and his WM match had one of the best hype videos I've ever seen ) but has since become arguably the best heel in the company, and all of those were done without the contract, even though the idea itself was to give them the briefcase and the title to help elevate them. Edge, Orton (ESPECIALLY Orton in 2013), Rollins, and Ambrose all showed what cashing in can accomplish and their careers all benefited from cashing in and winning via contract. It also makes moments like Punk vs. Cena in 2011 that much better too because the shock was not only that Punk beat Cena on that show in Chicago, but that Del Rio didn't beat Punk after, because most people were expecting that at the time to get heat on Del Rio and get the belt off Punk without Cena winning it back. So it's a tremendous concept. But it also makes using numbers such as the amount of title reigns to see how good a wrestler was kind of arbitrary. Edited by WWEFootos48, Dec 23 2016, 06:14 PM.
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| 15 Shows | Dec 23 2016, 10:57 PM Post #576 |
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It's not just the brand split and money in the bank. Back in the day, 60s-80s the champions only defended their belts like once or twice a year. 80s and early/mid 90s only had like 4 ppvs a year. Come late 90s where they started a weekly TV show and monthly pay per views, it's only natural that titles would change hands more often. Stone Cold was a 6 time champion from 98-01, The Rock 7 times from 99-02. It's really no different now. Guys are having longer careers now, so Cena who won his first title in 2005 has had 11 years to add to his total, as opposed to 3 years, Stone Cold and The Rock did. I dunno, I wouldn't toss aside world title reigns like their nothing. |
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| WWEFootos48 | Dec 24 2016, 01:10 PM Post #577 |
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It's not that the reigns are nothing, you can be a 20 time champion as long as it produces great stories. I don't mind Orton Edge and Cena all having titles in the double digits because all three did have tremendous stories involved for the most part, and I think both Orton and Cena can really thank the other for having such high numbers. But it was the advent of those two things that really inflated the numbers. The World Heavyweight Championship was treated like a second-rate belt for a lot of its history almost like it was to SD what the IC championship would be to Raw. But the fact was, it is a world championship, so you look at who is considered a world champion in the same breath as the ones who won the WWE championship at the same time and it's filled with a group of guys who would never have gotten it otherwise or wouldn't have gotten as much time with it. It's not to say that's a bad thing, but I think that had a lot more to do with it than just the changing of the times though that absolutely happened too. Another argument is that having two world titles allowed something like CM Punk's 434 day reign to happen because you can have only one guy hold it for a full calendar year but at the same time still have excitement at the top of the show with championship changes and such. So it can go both ways. It doesn't matter that much to me, but it made me think about how important/not important Flair's reigns really are in the scheme of things comparing today's stars to him. |
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| 15 Shows | Dec 24 2016, 10:42 PM Post #578 |
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I also think people remember things a little wrong. MOST of its history? No the World Title was not a IC level championship for most of its history. Id say from about 2002-2009/2010, it was at the same level,or at least close to the WWE Championship. Whenever the RAW Supershow bullshit started it really ruined the World Title. I don't know when that was. But before that, I viewed it as a top level championship. When Triple H had that title, it wasn't just that, it was THE top belt in the company. Batista took it to Smackdown in 2005. And it was still a top level title for years. Sure Great Khali won it, but that disaster could have happened even with one title. But for the most part it was Batista, Undertaker and Edge battling for that belt. WrestleMania 24 was in 2008 and the World Title was the main event, Edge vs The Undertaker. Following that, the World title came to RAW and CM Punk cashed in Money In The Bank and beat Edge for the title, eventually losing it to Chris Jericho who battled Batista, Shawn Michaels and John Cena going into 2009. Still not at that IC Title level yet, lets keep going. Cena and Edge would battle for it, followed by Edge battling, CM Punk and Jeff Hardy. Undertaker would win it in late 2009 and lose it to Jericho in 2010, who would battle Edge at WrestleMania 26. Okay so I found where it happened. The moment Jack Swagger cashed in Money In The Bank and won the World Title. That's when it became a IC level title. So from 2001-2010, it was at the same level as the WWE Title. So it was only this midcard belt for like 4 years. Half way through typing this out I realised you said a lot of its history and not most, so I'm not too sure if their was much of a point to my post, but its still fun to go through the history. One thing I don't get is why people hate when belts swap back and forth? I mean I'd get it if it happened all the time, but it doesn't. The Womens title swapping back and forth made sense to me. It fit the rilvary and allowed them to do the things they wanted. And fits the rilvary. I don't mind if a title swaps back and forth for awhile, as long as eventually it leads to a 4-8 month title reign for someone. Which I hope Charlotte now gets because lets be honest, no one holds a candle to her in womens wrestling. No one. Not screaming Becky, not eyes closed Sasha and certainly not the highly overrated Bayley. |
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| WWEFootos48 | Dec 25 2016, 02:54 PM Post #579 |
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The exact same reason I've been keeping this going...I don't care that much but I enjoy thinking about this a lot. ![]() When it comes to title switches, I think a lot of it comes down to context and what the wrestlers get out of it. When Foley won his three titles, it was at a point when you knew The Rock was over the moon hot and was the biggest guy in the company besides Austin, so even when Foley won you knew The Rock was still the guy which made Foley's wins more surprising and satisfying because it was a way to stick it to Rock and in character embarrass him. That's why I never minded the Ellsworth stuff either because you knew he wasn't even close to AJ's league so any win he got over the massive heel embarrassed and humiliated him in a way losing to most others on the roster wouldn't. In terms of Sasha and Charlotte, the issue is that WWE tried to make them look too equal. We all know Charlotte is above Sasha in both in-ring work and mic skills and is more legitimate because of her size. The matches themselves I enjoyed (I actually can't think of a bad Sasha/Charlotte match aside from maybe their SummerSlam match), and I think the story made any Sasha win look realistic, but the reality is that at the end of the day these switches made Sasha look pretty bad in my opinion. She celebrated like she had just won the belt for the first time THREE different times, only to lose it during her next defense each time. Charlotte has had long reigns before, and Sasha squeaking out wins against her doesn't make Charlotte look bad, but it makes Sasha look weak. The issue with that is that WWE doesn't want Sasha to look weak which is why she does have three title wins over Charlotte, but it directly conflicts with them wanting Charlotte to have an incredible PPV winning streak, so she loses any highly advertised match she has. That doesn't make her look equal, not by a long shot. So at the end of the day, Charlotte is champ (which she should be), and Sasha, even in a STORYLINE context, looks weak because now she has to pick up the pieces and move on without being able to fight for the championship for a bit because she ruined each and every one of her shots. But even so, WWE still builds Sasha like she's the biggest face and still has her as the posterchild of the women's revolution and as Charlotte's equal. I think you could have cut at least 2-3 title swaps out of this feud and run it as Sasha being the underdog who dreamed of that moment but could never reach the top and still have her come out looking better by eventually losing to Charlotte at Hell in a Cell and letting her move on from there, but they kept making unnecessary changes which didn't help her one bit. Edited by WWEFootos48, Dec 25 2016, 03:03 PM.
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| Sir Shorty | Jan 5 2017, 10:49 PM Post #580 |
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This week of Raw...not too bad. Chris Jericho is so fucking amazing. "You want to put me in the Cage of Jericho. Lock me in, man!" God, what a real treat it is to witness his brilliance. It's a fucking treat I tell you! They're both NATIONAL TREASURES!! The Owens/Rollins match was good. I knew KO wasn't going to win but I was hoping he'd still make an appearance during Jericho's match, much like Y2J did during KO's match wearing the Sin Cara mask. How awesome would it have been if Owens did that. ![]() What was the point of Cesaro V Anderson? I knew Anderson was going to pick up the W, it seemed a bit obvious. But the match wasn't too bad. Cesaro needs to be boosted into the main event scene. Could you imagine him winning the Rumble?! Braun V Sami...I like how they used a lot of the arena, didn't just keep it in the ring. Braun catching Sami mid moonsault, impressive. Sami jumping into him off the top of the stage through the tables, good spot. This little rivalry between the two has been pretty decent, thanks to the amazing work of Sami. He could make shit on a stick look good. Can we please get Titus off the screen. I was thankful that New Day was like "Bruh gtfo, you suck". Woods is hilarious on the mic, totally burned Titus with the Milk Carton bit. I laughed. The finish was weak, a roll up pin that looked very easy to kick out of. Oh well though. The Cruiserweight stinker...was just that. A stinker. Next. Roman and Jericho...again. Okay, yayyyyy...The match was fine. Like I mentioned above, it would have been great to have KO come through the crowd wearing a Sin Cara mask and having the announcers play it off like "Whoa! Who is that guy? Who can that be?!" when we can clearly tell it's KO. I remember when The Hurricane was finally unmasked and the announcers were like "OH MY GOD! IT'S GREGORY HELMS!! IT'S BEEN GREGORY HELMS THIS ENTIRE TIME!!" when yes, we knew it was Helms all along. Missed opportunity by WWE. Another Cruiserweight stinker...Kendrick and Perkins again...I don't remember much of the match. Rusev and Jinder V Big Cass...why was this a 2:1 match? Stupid. Dumb match was dumb. Do they really not know what to do with Rusev and Enzo/Cass that they have to put them in this shitty storyline? Bayley V Nia Jax wasn't too bad. The Bayley to Belly off the rope was a cool spot, but I still can't get over how weak of a finishing move it actually is. It's like the Dirty Deeds, a fucking DDT. The segment before the match, with Steph calling Bayley ordinary and that she didn't even want her on Raw...nice heel heat. I had hoped for Bayley to go on Smackdown Live, so hopefully a trade maybe? The end segment, The Kevin Owens Show on The Kevin Owens Show. I loved it. I loved how they kept on bantering without even thinking about Goldberg. I like how they had a fucking lawnchair in the ring for Goldberg while they were in nice chairs behind a nice desk. I fucking LOVED how they legit had some dude standing holding a sign over his face. Brilliant. Goldberg just annoys me on the mic though. He just shouts spear and jackhammer at Jericho and Owens. But I loved how Owens was like "You want to throw shit, I'll throw shit too!" and just throws everything out of the ring. Roman coming out...eh, whatever. Fine. The big stare down that has Vince's mouth watering but everyone going "God no please no....nooooooooo". Then you throw in Braun Strowmen...the double spear was obvious but what can you do. Overall, not too bad of a show. It was fine. |
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| 15 Shows | Jan 7 2017, 08:54 AM Post #581 |
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Finally. Great post man. |
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| WWEFootos48 | Jan 7 2017, 06:54 PM Post #582 |
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Whoever thought of that deserves a raise. That was the best subtle joke they've done on WWE TV in a long time. Every other time they try to do something funny (WWE, not Jericho and Owens) it gets beaten to death about how funny this is, so I like how they barely called attention to it. It made it so much funnier. Okay, so I realized something...I'm in agreement about Bayley's Finisher. I get the whole hug thing, but it doesn't work. Women have always had extremely weak finishers, or sometimes not even finishers at all and would win matches with clotheslines or some shit. They aren't as big or as strong, so I do understand why that might be...Strowman using a belly to belly as a finisher would work, for example, but 90 percent of the roster, not just Bayley, wouldn't be able to make it work. But now, most of the newer women now use submissions as their finishers, which look strong and generally add a lot of drama to matches. Nikki also recently went to the STF as a finisher and arguably does it better than her bf. Even Charlotte has a non-submission finisher, but it looks weak and anti-climactic compared to her figure four variation so she ends most matches with the latter. So why doesn't Bayley try doing something like that? It couldn't hurt to try. I think she used one in NXT for a bit but I honestly don't remember her using it in WWE yet. Even something gimmicky like a sadistic bearhug to weaken her opponent before the slam would at least make it more believable. It's hard to take her seriously when all these women are killing their opponents and she's coming out and beating people with one slam. |
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| _DL_ | Jan 9 2017, 05:48 PM Post #583 |
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They are really building Strowman. Still feels like they'll feed him to Roman. |
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| 15 Shows | Jan 10 2017, 06:30 PM Post #584 |
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I fear both Roman and Cena will become champion at the Royal Rumble. |
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| MY85 | Jan 11 2017, 05:10 AM Post #585 |
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Roman being champion at the Rumble feels very likely. Cena, probably at WM. |
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| 15 Shows | Jan 11 2017, 05:22 AM Post #586 |
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There not gonna do AJ v Cena for a 4th time after AJ winning 3 times at WrestleMania...are they?? I feel like WWE is heading down the road of Cena and Roman winning at the Rumble. Undertaker winning the Rumble. Then Cena v Taker Roman v Braun Goldberg v Brock HHH v Seth KO v Y2J As the Mania matches....someone tell me I'm crazy |
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| _DL_ | Jan 11 2017, 06:01 AM Post #587 |
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Nope, prophet more like it. What would you suspect be the main event? Cena/Taker or Goldberg/Lesnar? |
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| MY85 | Jan 11 2017, 06:09 AM Post #588 |
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I think that WWE would prefer Cena to tie Flair's record at WM. If not, they could have Cena win at the Rumble, lose the title to Styles at the next SD PPV, and then get the 17th title reign at WM. He's going to get that 16th title win at some point. Not sure how long he'll be champion with outside commitments, though. Goldberg/Brock, Rollins/HHH and Owens/Jericho seems to be a given. Orton/Bray too (assuming it doesn't happen before WM). Cena/Taker and Roman/Braun seems possible too. There is even rumors of Shane vs Ambrose at WM. Who should face Styles at WM? Should we create a "possible WM matches" topic or similar? |
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| 15 Shows | Jan 11 2017, 08:27 AM Post #589 |
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Ive been trying to think of someone for AJ to face at Mania. For one of the best guys in the biz, there's no clear path for him is there? |
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| Cybrus | Jan 11 2017, 10:47 AM Post #590 |
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so Braun being shown watching Taker on Raw was just a red herring? that was a rumored match last year and i have seen the rumor again this year. it is at least worth considering that braun eliminates taker (possibly after taker eliminates braun) to set up a feud, even if taker winning the rumble does seem obvious. aj vs balor could be possible if wwe is willing to recognize the bullet club history. leader vs leader. it is doubtful though |
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| MY85 | Jan 11 2017, 03:22 PM Post #591 |
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Most of the rumors for a Taker match seem to involve either Cena or Styles (individually or in a triple threat match). I think WWE could go with Taker vs Styles at WM. That leaves Cena out of a major match. But that could also leave Cena for a match with Samoa Joe (or maybe Kenny Omega if WWE signs him). Joe vs Cena should be easy to pull off, storyline-wise. They used to be good friends early on, but split once Cena became famous and stuff. If Balor came back and won the Rumble, he could go for either Styles (as Cybrus said), Owens (the man Balor beat for his NXT title run) or Roman (Balor is one of the very few who pinned Roman clean). |
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| Sir Shorty | Jan 11 2017, 11:13 PM Post #592 |
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I hope Balor comes back for the Rumble...I also hope Styles doesn't drop the title to Cena at the RR either. |
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| 15 Shows | Jan 12 2017, 01:44 AM Post #593 |
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Balor returning would be awesome. If that were the case, Id love Owens v Balor as the main event. Would be amazing. They could always do Y2J v Owens post Mania. But I don't see it happening. Balor returning or Owen still champion heading to Mania. I hope I'm wrong. Yes, they are going to do Cena vs Kenny Omega at Wrestlemania....what are you talking about? Hahaha. If anything, AJ could face Samoa Joe at Wrestlemania. Both having similar career paths, and a previous rivalry. They could do Braun v Taker at Mania. Which would be alright by me. Id be happy with any alternative if it means Kevin Owens keeps the belt until Wrestlemania. I'm not a Roman Reigns hater. I think he's actually very good. But with his drug suspension and not being able to get over, he just doesn't deserve the main event of Wrestlemania. But that hasn't stopped them before. See Mania 27 Cena v Miz. |
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| Cybrus | Jan 12 2017, 06:14 AM Post #594 |
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Regardless of who wins the Rumble or which title he challenges for, i do hope we see the Eliminaton Chamber return to determine the challenger for the other title. I dont like when gimmick matches happens just because of the month (hiac, tlc) but i have always liked them using the EC to determine the second WM title challenger |
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| Cybrus | Jan 12 2017, 07:37 AM Post #595 |
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Granted, this is just a rumor. But curious all the same
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| WWEFootos48 | Jan 12 2017, 09:29 PM Post #596 |
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I don't see Styles vs. Joe happening only because Styles is considered the #1 guy in the WWE right now and Joe isn't even on the main roster yet. I don't see a turnaround where within 2 months Joe goes from NXT to being in one of the WrestleMania main events especially when it doesn't seem like WWE is fully behind him in the first place. But aside from that, it is very curious because unlike last year there ARE enough guys to have a solid card but almost nowhere to fit them. If the Elimination Chamber does decide who gets the title match at WM (obviously not confirmed, but as said above it is logical), then that would mean the winner of the RR match comes from the Raw brand since EC is a SmackDown show. So then, IF it comes from Raw, who would win the Royal Rumble? Balor was mentioned which could happen, but I'm very meh on a Balor title match considering that would mean he would main event and possibly win at three of the biggest PPVs of the year with a combined main roster time of like 4 months. They could always have Jericho win and eventually face Owens, but realistically Roman will probably be Universal champion anyway going into WM. And who honestly gives a flying fuck about Roman at this point because you know he's going over no matter what. Maybe 'Taker could win and that sets up a Raw title match since it was announced on Raw he was entering. I don't fully believe the rumors because you're basically crossing out options 1-3 on the list of opponents, with the only one left being Styles, so unless Styles beats Cena, jumps to Raw, and faces Undertaker, I don't necessarily see any of those other options not in the picture. And also, Cena going into WM as champ makes almost zero sense at all, so I see Styles winning and Cena beating him at WM once and for all, which would more than likely mean Undertaker/Strowman because it would leave both of them out of the picture and Strowman could pick a fight with Undertaker under the pretense that he's looking for REAL competition finally. The only other wild card in this story might actually be Lesnar and/or Goldberg. Those two are obviously setting up to fight, but what if you split those two up, or combine them into something else, almost like how Benoit won the RR match and Michaels kicked him to force a triple threat? Then one of them can win the Rumble (probably Goldberg to get that huge pop) and the other can interject themselves in a way to involve themselves in the match. So then, if (*coughs* when) Roman wins the title match, it'll be Goldberg vs. Lesnar vs. Reigns to main event, which covers the bases for all three men, covers what the main event would be, and takes the pressure off Goldberg and Lesnar possibly fighting in an absolute snoozefest since Roman has been pretty great in big matches lately. So my official prediction is: Owens/Jericho (US Championship) Cena/Styles (WWE Championship) Undertaker/Strowman Roman/Lesnar/Goldberg (Universal Championship) With that booking, all of the top guys are covered and it also leaves room for them to play around a bit for stories leading up to the show itself, especially with an Owens/Jericho feud, Undertaker haunting Braun, and the story as to how Lesnar or Goldberg can involve themselves in a match they shouldn't be in just to get at the other guy. But something that hasn't gotten brought up...why is tying Flair the major story? What if Cena ties Flair by being Styles at the RR, Styles wins the Elimination chamber match to get his championship back, and Cena beats him again at WM to get his 17th, thus breaking the record? I would feel that would technically hold more weight than simply tying it, and would give them a reason to have another match with one another...Styles wouldn't technically have to pin Cena at EC to win so he could get it back and Cena would be able to get another rematch. Edited by WWEFootos48, Jan 12 2017, 09:43 PM.
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| MY85 | Jan 12 2017, 11:51 PM Post #597 |
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It has yet to be mentioned that the RR winner can switch brands, right? Taker is apparently brandless, but if the winner can switch brands, I think we could get Bálor vs Styles or Roman... or Miz vs Roman. I'm morbidly interested in seeing if Miz can get heel heat against Roman and sustain it all the way to WM. If he succeeds in that, he should easily be considered as one of the all-time greatest heels. ![]() But nope. I guess Miz will have a tag team match with Maryse against Dean and Renee Young, assuming Ambrose's girlfriend is willing to participate inside the ring. It'd be another thing if WWE allows Bryan vs Miz for 1 more match, but they won't. Expecting for WM: Seth vs Trips Brock vs Goldberg Owens vs Jericho Orton vs Bray Roman vs Royal Rumble winner for the Universal Title I think the WWE World Championship match will involve Cena, Styles and/or Taker. If Styles only faces Taker at WM, I think Cena should go against Ambrose or Samoa Joe. If it's Styles vs Cena, Taker should go against Strowman. If it's Cena vs Taker for the title, it's pretty hard to think for a right opponent to face off against AJ. ![]() As for Strowman, if he doesn't face Taker or Roman, let him win the ATGMBR match and put him over by breaking the record of most eliminations in that match. |
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| 15 Shows | Jan 13 2017, 06:28 PM Post #598 |
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It's interesting because usually by this time we know what the main events are going to be. I mean for the most part we have a pretty good idea. Here's what we know: Rollins v Triple H for sure. Y2J v KO more than likely. Goldberg v Brock almost guaranteed. Sorry Whosey, the triple threat ain't happening. I'd love a 4 Way between Goldberg v Brock v Roman v Braun. But that's wishful thinking on my part. Bray v Orton/ Wyatt triple threat. That's what we know. That leaves us with AJ, Cena, Roman, Ambrose, Braun and The Undertaker as the remaining top stars. If Finn Balor returns it opens things up. But if not. Then I don't see how they could pass up on Cena vs Undertaker. I mean it's the match to make right? It makes the most sense. Cena vs AJ makes no sense to me. They have faced so many times. WrestleMania is the time for something new. I don't know, maybe AJ v Undertaker and Cena v Ambrose? That might work. We should make a thread on how we would book WrestleMania given the current roster and current WWE landscape |
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| WWEFootos48 | Jan 14 2017, 09:01 PM Post #599 |
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Cena/AJ only makes sense because of the "history" involved in Cena winning another championship. As we've discussed previously, I don't have much in terms of ties to that record, so I would prefer Cena/Undertaker. Especially with Cena's schedule and Undertaker and his age, who knows how many more opportunities they could have to do it. I know they've fought before, but one would assume the last time they wrestled one another was in 2003, right? But honestly I don't want the match and ultimately sacrifice AJ, who deserves a main event match. He wouldn't get one otherwise if that were to happen. As much as a triple threat between Goldberg, Lesnar, and Roman may not happen, nobody is going to be signed or be called up in time to build a story with AJ before 'Mania so the only person that makes sense would be Cena for him. Even if hypothetically Joe gets called up, AJ loses to Cena, and Joe and Styles feud towards WM, I feel like that would be bringing AJ down a notch or two because I think Joe needs to be built up on the main roster before they can have their matches. When Angle went to TNA a decade ago, they pushed Angle/Joe right out of the gate and blew threw the feud and in my opinion killed what could have possibly been an incredible feud because they didn't want to wait; that's what bringing Joe up and having him face the #1 guy without any build would be doing. Nobody else has a built-in story with him that isn't already tied up in a feud towards WM. So as much as they've fought already, it would still be a better option than throwing AJ with someone else who doesn't necessarily deserve a top spot on the card. I don't really see anyone winning the Rumble on the Raw side and jumping ship, again, like I said, unless it was Undertaker. Everyone else who would deserve/need to be in the main event area are already in feuds on Raw so I don't see some surprise switch happening beforehand. Edited by WWEFootos48, Jan 14 2017, 09:08 PM.
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AJ certainly deserves a main event match. That doesn't necessarily mean he should get it though. Taker vs Cena is the match to do. Shit if I had it my way, Owens would retain and Jericho would win the Royal Rumble. NOBODY is more deserving than Y2J. He's never won one. He's the best. Owens deserves a main event at Mania over Roman. But it's not about who deserves what. |
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