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| Raw Discussion Thread; Best way to make something permanent is to make it temporary | |
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| 15 Shows | Apr 27 2016, 09:20 PM Post #181 |
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Aint cheatin aint tryin
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I see Cybrus has Nebs password. Good try tho.DBag |
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| Kame | May 3 2016, 01:19 AM Post #182 |
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I don't know if I'm alone in thinking this, but I found watching Big Cass cut a promo without Enzo to be incredibly awkward. Still, I'll be rooting for that guy for as long as Enzo's on the shelf. |
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| WWEFootos48 | May 3 2016, 01:24 AM Post #183 |
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I don't know, he was the one that started the Hey Arnold joke last night so he can show that he is good... But in all seriousness, I think that line of thought makes sense just because he teams up with arguably the best mouthpiece on the current roster so anything he says will come up as pretty much flat no matter what. Edited by WWEFootos48, May 3 2016, 01:25 AM.
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| NCR | May 3 2016, 02:03 AM Post #184 |
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What?
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Chris Jericho trolling it up. Love it. |
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| Cybrus | May 3 2016, 04:08 AM Post #185 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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did you watch his solo run in nxt while enzo was hurt? it was very awkward |
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| Cybrus | May 3 2016, 04:14 AM Post #186 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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aj refusing to attack roman with a chair when anderson/gallows had roman held down and roman responds by attacking an unprepared aj and putting him through a table. please, tell me again how this man isnt heel? |
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| MY85 | May 3 2016, 08:35 AM Post #187 |
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It's a fabulous new day, yes it is!
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Until either the announcers react to him as if he was a heel or if he straight-up tells the fans that they suck? ![]() He's a tweener the way it is at the moment. |
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| WWEFootos48 | May 3 2016, 09:47 AM Post #188 |
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Asks the person who continuously said "just wait for Payback when Reigns sides with them" because it was supposed to be a massive swerve... |
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| Cybrus | May 3 2016, 09:54 AM Post #189 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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yes, i was wrong about the payback swerve, but i am not wrong about Roman's character. he is definitely playing a heel character. his facial expressions, body language, mannerisms, promo work, interactions with other characters...everything about him is a heel. if the only reason people are saying he is a face is because the announcers wont tell them he isnt, then, well..... also, anderson/gallows are definitely turning on aj. idk when it will happen, but it will happen. |
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| Kame | May 3 2016, 03:14 PM Post #190 |
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I didn't. I thought Enzo managed Cass during that time, though, or was he completely on his own at one point? Only a matter of time now before Finn Bálor debuts by leading Anderson and Gallows in beating down AJ. The stars are beginning to align. |
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| Cybrus | May 3 2016, 03:16 PM Post #191 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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it was just big cass. i remember hearing lots of hype before seeing him and thinking "this guy sucks. he is just tall and has bland mic skills. what is with the hype??" and then enzo returned and it clicked: he is the billy gunn of this duo! |
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| NCR | May 3 2016, 05:28 PM Post #192 |
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What?
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We are still in this whole Cybrus thinking Roman is a heel thing? Cybrus thinks Roman is a heel, nobody else agrees. Boom. Over. Cool. |
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| Cybrus | May 4 2016, 12:42 AM Post #193 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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i know, right? heaven forbid we actually have an ongoing conversation around here that gets people participating and returning each week as new pregression is made in the storylines. nah, we dont need such silly discussions on a discussion forum! what a silly thing to even suggest: discussing a wrestler on a wrestling forum. pfft! guys, lets just go "lol no" or random insults and continue looking at an inactive board while simutaneously complaining how no one posts anything!
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| _DL_ | May 4 2016, 12:44 AM Post #194 |
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BURN IT DOOOWWNNNNNNNN!
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LOL NO |
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| Cybrus | May 4 2016, 12:49 AM Post #195 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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[jericho] STUPID IDIOT [/jericho] |
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| Sir Shorty | May 4 2016, 06:02 AM Post #196 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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^^ +1 |
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| NCR | May 6 2016, 01:21 AM Post #197 |
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What?
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Whoa Cybrus. Got salty pretty quick there. I'm sorry that 6star lacks members, I'm still around though pal so it's alright. |
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| Sir Shorty | May 6 2016, 01:55 AM Post #198 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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I really wanted Zack Ryder to win that Battle Royal. I knew the WWE was going to fuck with the emotions of the crowd and the fans though. Who wants to see Rusev against Kalisto though? Damn you WWE! |
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| Cybrus | May 6 2016, 05:28 AM Post #199 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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I was being sarcastic to prove a point, not salty
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| 15 Shows | May 6 2016, 02:28 PM Post #200 |
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Aint cheatin aint tryin
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Yes, the guy who at payback despite tons of interference still beat AJ clean is a heel. The guy who gets attacked by a heel tag team every week is a heel. The guy who continues to take on all comers and whoop them by himself for the most part is a heel. Do you see my sarcasm. Like are we not watching the same thing? He comes off confident not cocky. Just because he's not pandering to the crowd anymore and he calls himself the guy doesn't mean he's heel. Maybe someday, but as of now Roman Reigns is not a heel. He's a tweener. But let's talk about Chris Jericho. I love this guy. The stupid idiot thing is gold and I laugh everytime he yells it. He's not as good as he used to be as far as in ring and being in shape goes but the guy still gots it. And I think he deserves one more short title run before he retires for good. Also besides Chris Jericho, Kevin Owens is the best wrestler on the current roster. But we all knew that Edited by 15 Shows, May 6 2016, 02:32 PM.
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| Cybrus | May 6 2016, 02:43 PM Post #201 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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i wonder if we are watching the same show as well, because roman reigns is clearly a heel character that is only a face because the announcers say he is. absolutely everything about roman from his facial expressions, to his body language, to his actual actions are all heel. the only thing making him face in this feud is that his face opponent is currently being set up by a heel tag team. they arent attacking roman because roman is a face, they are attacking roman to help aj. by your logic, does that make aj heel? because a heel team is helping him? absolutely not. and by the same reasoning, it doesnt automatically make roman a face because a heel team is attacking him. the storyline with gallows and anderson is that they are going to be turning on aj. |
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| Sir Shorty | May 6 2016, 02:45 PM Post #202 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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Jericho is one of my all time favorite wrestlers. So I enjoy watching him even if he isn't at what he used to be. And he's always amazing on the mic too. The whole stupid idiot thing, is gold. I love Chris Jericho. I just wish he'd put the knee in the back when he does the Walls of Jericho instead of a shit Boston Crab. |
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| 15 Shows | May 6 2016, 02:47 PM Post #203 |
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Aint cheatin aint tryin
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Name one thing Roman has done that has been the actions of a bad guy. You like to say he is "CLEARLY" heel. |
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| Cybrus | May 6 2016, 02:56 PM Post #204 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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well, as i pointed out above after Raw, attacking AJ as his back was turned and putting him through a table. anderson and gallows attacked roman and held him down, aj refused to attack roman with a chair. after the ring was clear, it was just aj and roman in the ring, with aj looking away. as aj turned around, roman catches him off guard and proceeds to completely obliterate aj. i understand these two are feuding, but aj played the face role by refusing to attack under the circumstances and roman played the heel role by attacking from behind and going to unessessary extremes on a guy that just refused to attack him with a chair. that is an example of a heel character. winning matches, being dominate, standing up for himself...all of what you mentioned above are all traits of dominate heels. and i will cite rusev as a recent example as absolutely everything you said to defend roman as face is true of rusev during his undefeated us title reign. the only difference is that aj has a heel tag team attacking his opponents prior to turning on him -- which is an aj storyline and not influenced by reigns. reigns just happens to be the guy in the ring with aj as this storyline is happening |
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| Sir Shorty | May 6 2016, 04:17 PM Post #205 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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He attacked AJ the way he did because all Roman saw was AJ beating the piss outta the Usos, his keyfabe family. He got upset and defended his cousins. He didn't see that the Usos attacked AJ first. I think him beating the snot out of AJ wasn't a heel thing, just him defending his cousins when he saw them get attacked. |
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| Sir Shorty | May 6 2016, 04:22 PM Post #206 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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What I'm saying is, that segment won't be seen by many as a heel thing that Roman did. If anything, the Usos did one of the biggest heel things during that portion. |
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| Cybrus | May 6 2016, 05:01 PM Post #207 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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as mick foley so eloquetly wrote in his first book: a heel doesnt have to be right, he just has to believe he was right. there is a difference between saving family and obliterating a man. when roman put aj through an announce table, he was 100% heel mode. wwe is pushing him as a face, i am not blind to that. what i am saying is roman is playing a heel character. he is exactly the character everyone wanted this time last year. |
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| Kame | May 10 2016, 01:37 AM Post #208 |
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[twitter=WWEUniverse/status/729847350265405442]
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| NCR | May 10 2016, 03:34 PM Post #209 |
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What?
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Okay since we're still on this. What really tells me that Reigns isn't a heel, is the commentators. Every time he does a heelish thing, the announcer justify it with a "He did what he thought was necessary!" Or some crap like that. This shows to me that WWE still want to portray him as a "good" guy. Granted he's surely the villian in his feud with AJ, but I think generally your giving the creative team and Vince too much credit if you think they turned Reigns subtly enough to spark this kind of argument. My opinion. |
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| Cybrus | May 10 2016, 04:02 PM Post #210 |
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STAY HYPED!!!
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youre misunderstanding the discussion. wwe is pushing reigns as a face, no one is not saying that. so, yes, commentators are going to support him. the discussion at hand is that roman reigns is playing a heel character, and he is. he is doing all the cool and badass things people were wanting him to do as little as a few months ago. he is essentially his shield character only without ambrose or rollins. he isnt a face. he isnt a tweener as so many people incorrectly label him. he is a heel character being pushed as a face. and the fact that people wont admit that "because the announcers say otherwise" is kinda strange for a wrestling forum |
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