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| Raw Discussion Thread; Best way to make something permanent is to make it temporary | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 5 2015, 11:06 PM (9,499 Views) | |
| WWEFootos48 | May 10 2016, 04:37 PM Post #211 |
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I still think there's too odd of a dynamic going on right now to make that call though. Right now, the feud between AJ and Roman has Roman working with two guys who have constantly come in and attacked Roman. I feel like just because of that, anything Roman does to AJ or Gallows or Anderson would be seen as justified from a face perspective. He might be acting tougher and angrier, but we can clearly see even in a case like this he can easily be booked closer to the underdog than the smaller AJ, just because he has the two major muscles behind him. Now going forward, if he attacks the Usos, or if a double switch occurs, then that can be made, but I think the sample size is way too small right now to even say from a non-production standpoint that he's a heel. Then you add announcers, other wrestlers and stories onto that, he is definitely not a heel yet. |
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| Cybrus | May 10 2016, 04:43 PM Post #212 |
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it is more than just that though, it is his entire attitude. he doesnt smile. he isnt friendly. you suddenly never see him and superface ambrose together. basically... this
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| Cybrus | May 11 2016, 01:05 AM Post #213 |
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question: was ambrose destroying jericho's jacket the end of the light jacket gimmick or was it just a 1 week attack on jericho? |
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| MY85 | May 11 2016, 01:28 AM Post #214 |
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Were the jacket lights still working while the jacket was being torn apart? |
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| Cybrus | May 11 2016, 02:03 AM Post #215 |
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i cannot remember if the lights were on or off during time of destruction. they were on while jericho did his entrance, then when dean stole it, amd when he was in the ring. but when the lights are on and people are moving, it is easy to not notice jacket lights |
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| Sir Shorty | May 11 2016, 03:29 AM Post #216 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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When I went to the Seattle mall, I saw this... Face
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| Cybrus | May 11 2016, 03:46 AM Post #217 |
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that was a promotion from a year or 2 ago. there was even a commercial ![]() |
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| Sir Shorty | May 11 2016, 04:24 AM Post #218 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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I saw this at the mall this year, when he was champ. During his "heel" run. |
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| Cybrus | May 11 2016, 04:31 AM Post #219 |
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it was a pretty big promotion. wwe partnered with others to run it. it would make sense that thet are still using the material. it doesnt change the fact that it is outdated . we still have a soda machine with star wars: episode 1 on the front. old promotional material isnt a sign of recent storyline advances. ![]() and, again, because i believe you are still not understanding what i am saying even though i have said it multiple times at this point. i fully understand wwe is pushing him as a face. i am not saying otherwise. i am saying roman reigns is playing a selfish heel character that just happens to be pushed as a face. he is the character everyone was asking for as little as 2 months ago as we were heading into WM. he is now that heel character. |
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| Cybrus | May 24 2016, 12:11 AM Post #220 |
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seth rollins just walked into as a returning hero getting a standing ovation to just tuning on the crowd and getting booed out of the place! good stuff
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| Cybrus | May 30 2016, 03:20 PM Post #221 |
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john cena is returning tonight. and since they announced it on their website, wwe will most likely comment on the brand split tonight. i am not a happy wwe fan right now |
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| Purple Marauder | May 30 2016, 09:32 PM Post #222 |
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Stand Back! There's a Hurricane Coming Through
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As opposed to the other nights when you were a happy WWE fan? |
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| _DL_ | May 31 2016, 12:14 AM Post #223 |
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BURN IT DOOOWWNNNNNNNN!
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Damn, they confirmed the split.
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| Cybrus | May 31 2016, 12:53 AM Post #224 |
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yes |
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| Cybrus | May 31 2016, 01:35 AM Post #225 |
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Hordor reference on Raw
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| Kame | May 31 2016, 01:51 AM Post #226 |
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Enzo might be my favorite guy on the main roster to watch right now. No one oozes charisma quite like him. |
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| Cybrus | May 31 2016, 02:29 AM Post #227 |
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is "how you doin" the new "what" chant? |
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| Cybrus | May 31 2016, 02:59 AM Post #228 |
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and the turn no one commented on: styles turned on cena and fully joined anderson and gallows |
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| Sir Shorty | May 31 2016, 06:49 AM Post #229 |
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2012 ROYAL RUMBLE WINNER MOTHERFUCKERS!!!
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So I just finished watching Raw, it ended about an hour ago. I was surprised by the heel turn of AJ Styles. It seems Cybrus was wrong about Anderson/Gallows turning on AJ. I sort of was leaning towards what Cybrus was predicting with the Anderson/Gallows turn but when AJ split ties with them, I thought, huh...okay. Hopefully it'll be a good heel turn for AJ...but just how heel will he be? He's still going to be a fan favorite no matter what...is he going to be like the Rock when he turned heel but people still loved him? Austin? CM Punk? |
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| WWEFootos48 | May 31 2016, 09:13 AM Post #230 |
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Did they ever reveal what was in the hatch? |
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| Kame | May 31 2016, 12:37 PM Post #231 |
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Yes. Prepare to be disappointed. #Hatch
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| WWEFootos48 | May 31 2016, 03:26 PM Post #232 |
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What the actual hell. Something this tells me this will be a precursor to a HOF nomination next year too. |
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| Cybrus | May 31 2016, 05:49 PM Post #233 |
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worked for Sting. First, he needs to lose to Triple H again to prove that wwe is still superior to wcw even some 15 years after wcw went out of business even though most current fans think wcw means "women crush wednesday" and not a wrestling promotion. then rollins needs to break his neck. and then he can go into the hall
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| WWEFootos48 | Jun 1 2016, 01:57 AM Post #234 |
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But wouldn't it have to go the other way around meaning Goldberg has to give someone a career-ending concussion? Or maybe he can grandfather himself in for taking out one of Vince's biggest enemies ever in Bret Hart since it could almost be looked at as revenge for Hart not putting Michaels over? |
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| WWEFootos48 | Jun 28 2016, 09:21 AM Post #235 |
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So this was the conversation at work tonight, my supervisor's quote first, then mine, etc., in that order: "So did you watch any of Raw tonight?" "Nah, I didn't see anything. Was it good?" "Yeah, it was great. I caught the opening promo then the last hour."***** "I think I saw on facebook there was something between Seth and Dean?" "Yep, it was pretty great actually." "Wait, does Roman get kicked out of the match??" "Um...I don't know, you're going to have to see for yourself." "So he does?" "Maybe, maybe not. I'm not going to spoil it." "You know me. If I leave work and check and it turns out he's still in the match you know I'll be pissed at you." "I know." This started after Money in the Bank when I caught the ending of the title match and he didn't, and he didn't want me spoiling it for him yet I was so excited about what happened that it got to the point where he flat out asked me what happened since it started to bother him. So every show since then, it's started to happen this way. *****My supervisor comes in at 10 p.m. He told me he usually regularly watches the first segment and third hour out of habit so he can tune in to see what the main focus of the show will be, then the third hour for the resolutions. But the third hour happens when he starts work. It made me realize...HE FUCKING WATCHES THE THIRD HOUR OF RAW AT WORK! He's usually in one of the offices before I get there (I start 10:45), and they do have a TV so it's obvious he steals the remote to put Raw on for the last hour. Holy crap. ![]() But also...it did happen and I'm extremely happy to hear that. Not just because it's Roman, but I feel like this is one of the first times in awhile that WWE actually didn't shy away from what was going on and used it to their advantage. Edited by WWEFootos48, Jun 28 2016, 09:25 AM.
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| Cybrus | Jun 28 2016, 03:39 PM Post #236 |
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curious they are calling dean ambrose the wwe champion and not the wwe world heavyweight champion. is this the precursor to the world title returning to smackdown? |
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| WWEFootos48 | Jun 28 2016, 06:04 PM Post #237 |
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I heard others mentioning it. I'm assuming it started this week? I think the logical thing is that it will mean the WHC part splits (ughhhhh) but it seems like a slightly random time to do so. Also, I figured it out...I figured this would happen, but to me the issue is that the WHC seems like such a stale title now. Back when the first split happened, it was easy for the WWE to use their revisionist history to say how great the WHC was, but you can't say the same about its most recent. It was BY FAR the more inferior title and it showed when you would have a bunch of B-guys holding it just to say they were "world champions." Edited by WWEFootos48, Jun 28 2016, 06:05 PM.
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| 15 Shows | Jul 4 2016, 12:46 AM Post #238 |
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I have no problems with 2 World Champions. As long as the brands are actually split, then it works. If the World Title is used how the I-C title should be used like it was from about 2010-whenever it ended. But if its presented as an actual main event title like how it was from about 2002-2008, then it works just fine and only stupid idiots would have a problem with it. My only problem with the brand split is the 3 hour RAW. It doesn't work with a full roster. Hows it supposed to work cut in half?? |
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| Cybrus | Jul 4 2016, 03:51 AM Post #239 |
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2 titles is terrible because it leads to over-inflated title reign numbers and undeserving Champions. There is no way Cena would be a 15 time Champion and Dolph Ziggler wouldnt be a former Champion if there were 1 Champion |
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| MY85 | Jul 5 2016, 01:29 AM Post #240 |
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Ambrose's attempt at talking Spanish sounded Italian-like. ![]() Glad Rusev retained against Titus. And fans are cheering at the mention of Roman being removed from the match (which won't happen, but it should). Marcelo Rodriguez (Spanish commentarist) is shown reading his script after Ambrose Dirty Deeds' Rollins through the table. Fuck's sake... Edited by MY85, Jul 5 2016, 01:30 AM.
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