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Raw Discussion Thread; Best way to make something permanent is to make it temporary
Topic Started: Oct 5 2015, 11:06 PM (9,498 Views)
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with most crowds being so negative to Reigns, you have to wonder if/when it will turn into just plain x pac heat (go away heat)
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Jul 4 2016, 12:46 AM


My only problem with the brand split is the 3 hour RAW. It doesn't work with a full roster. Hows it supposed to work cut in half??
lots and lots of NXT call ups. i have read 15 to 20 people are expected to be called up after the draft
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Darren Young is a face? I thought not considering the Backlund segments. Now he gets a shot against Miz for the IC title.
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zack ryder is challenging for the us title.
darren young is challenging for the ic title.

yup, wwe is in idgaf mode :lol:
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Rollins vs Ambrose WWE title mach set for Raw next week. WWE is trying to get big ratings next week for draft week
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Vince arrived and said he is there to name the Commissioner of SmackDown Live. i have never been a fan of the phrase "commissioner" when used in wrestling. it just sounds silly to me.
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Does that mean we get to see a new Raw Anonymous GM?
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Vince arrived and said he is there to name the Commissioner of SmackDown Live. i have never been a fan of the phrase "commissioner" when used in wrestling. it just sounds silly to me.
I just assumed one would be Shane and one would be Stephanie. It'd be cool if that didn't happen and we got someone new and fresh.
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Daniel Bryan will be Smackdown! Commish, save this post.
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Daniel Bryan will be Smackdown! Commish, save this post.
That's a good call if he's going to stick around the WWE.
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Vince arrived and said he is there to name the Commissioner of SmackDown Live. i have never been a fan of the phrase "commissioner" when used in wrestling. it just sounds silly to me.
I just assumed one would be Shane and one would be Stephanie. It'd be cool if that didn't happen and we got someone new and fresh.
Steph - Raw
Shane - SmackDown

But wait, there is more!! Steph nd Shane are Commissioners of their brands, but they now have to name a GM of each brand next week on Raw. So this means Shane and Steph wont be weekly authority figures?
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also, how abstract was the wyatt/new day segment?
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Steph - Raw
Shane - SmackDown

But wait, there is more!! Steph and Shane are Commissioners of their brands, but they now have to name a GM of each brand next week on Raw. So this means Shane and Steph won't be weekly authority figures?
I'm going to assume that they will be the GM's bosses. That way they can have confrontations with them and threaten them if they start screwing up kind of thing.
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so they get a lacky? maybe.

or, they could be written off but still have a reason to show up whenever they wanted. i could have sworn reading Shane was just temporary anyway. i doubt he will be on tv after SummerSlam

or Triple h could be returning to run Raw with Steph

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the rollins report was great. and already funnier than both the new daily show with trevor noah and the nightly show combined :lol:
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possible GM spoiler

i dont know if this was a legit thing posted or if it is a photoshop, but it seems to be what the people want
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I just find it odd that it's mentioned that way in the title but then not in the body.
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Okay saw the Rollins Report. I've known of Rollins/Tyler Black for maybe 8 years now and he never screamed promo guy to me at all. But for some reason, ever since he came back he's been fire to me every damn week. I was at the Raw when he did his version of the Daily Show until Jon Stewart broke it up and cut an incredible promo on him, but it hasn't been until recently that I've realized how awesome Rollins is on the mic.
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i agree that it seems a little suspect :lol:

i think steph is more likely to stay on since she has been a regular authority figure for a year or so. i am thinking she will just bring Triple H back, but am not sure if he needs the GM role since he is COO...right? either way, Raw will be the "heel authority" show.

i think smackdown will be the "face authority" show. a lot of people seem to expect daniel bryan and even if it isnt him, i expect another face. i also think shane is temporary (as i said above) and will probably disappear as regular on screen character around SummerSlam
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you see that caption under Reigns, tho? so great :lol:
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One of the absolute funniest things ever. I think it was Angle who did something similar with Rock back in the day but that was just so good. I'm just so shocked in how far they're taking it considering he is/was one of the main guys yet they're letting Rollins basically run with it.

I also agree with the managers thing. One thing that's starting to strike me is that WWE knows what fans think of them, and it's obvious with the Regins stuff, obvious with the guys that are being pushed now, obvious with Shane and how he brought up ratings and injuries in his promo when he first came back. So they are definitely setting SD up to be the show smart fans will want to watch and leaving Raw as the more highly produced and somewhat annoying brand.
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read a rumor that Vince has soured on Reigns and is kicking himself for not signing AJ Styles 10 years sooner. it is only a rumor, but it would be great if reigns got a little less of a push and AJ got even more. i mean, i have no problems with Reigns being a main eventer or a champion. WWE works best when there are multiple guys the fans see as champions all fighting for the belt. i just dont think Reigns should be pushed as the biggest name of the group...because the fans do not accept that
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I've said it before but I think Reigns has been tremendous in his main event PPV matches recently. I know I'm a bit more picky than most on here when it comes to what I think is a "good" main event, but Reigns has done the job very well against Styles. Styles had a lot to do with it, but I've always been of the opinion that literally one person can't make the match; the opponent has to provide too. I think that's even more credit than what Stone Cold has given him, so I don't want to make it seem like I'm hating on him.

However, I can't listen to one of his promos. I can't watch him live on a week to week basis. I just can't. He's just so bad and what WWE gives him is so bad. He absolutely shouldn't be cutting the types of promos he does. At least with Cena when he was being hated on it's not that the promos were terrible, they were just bland and boring; Reigns is given stuff that under no circumstances he should be saying and it ruins his character so much for me. If he was taken away from the top spot and was able to kind of redefine himself a bit I would probably enjoy him but until then he's just someone I flat out can't stand. I just remember that time he flubbed one of his lines and looked so uncomfortable and so confused it took me out of the moment. When you're in that position you can mess up, but also should know how to handle it and handling it well adds a bit to the character to me. But he just went out there and seemed like he was auditioning for a b-level high school play. I just don't take him seriously at all.
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i agree with that mostly. Reigns is usually dependable to carry himself well in a match, but needs a better opponent than himself to have a great match. i dont think Reigns is good enough pull a great match out of an inferior performer.

but his promos and character in general are just dreadful. he isnt funny. he cannot be serious or come across intimidating. he does have the cool, calm demenor working for him. his best work was when Ambrose and Rollins talked and he just had to stand there looking cool and say a quick line at the end. so unless they can find a way to script him to always have short-to-the-point promos, then they need to give him a manager :lol:
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It just makes no sense to me because WWE can probably find a way around it but they seriously give him everything he shouldn't be doing and trying to get him over that way. He isn't a good talker. Okay, fine. So find a way around it. Don't make it obvious to the entire audience how weak he is at it when you know you'll get hated on for trying to make this guy the top guy when he isn't ready.
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rumor also has it that Vince is also very high on Seth Rollins and thinks he will be one of the biggest heels in the company for years to come. and i agree with that. seth is incredibly talented. but how cool would it be that if instead of trying to push reigns as the top guy, what if they instead went the hbk/deisel route and had reigns be rollin's bodyguard. it would make reigns heel at first, but he would slowly turn face as he was continuously shown as cool, calm, and dominate. plus, it would give reigns another year or 18 months to work with and learn from seth. i mean, it will probably never happen, but how cool would that be?
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I think in hindsight it's a cool idea but I honestly don't think they can pull that off now. They've already went to the well too many times with Reigns as a main eventer so if they scaled him back to the point where he was second fiddle to anyone it would just seem wrong. I'm trying to think in my head of any scenario where it would work but I just don't see any.

The only thing is maybe turn on Ambrose but Ambrose has done a good job not putting Reigns' name through the mud so it wouldn't make sense to turn on Ambrose and side with Rollins in any capacity.
Edited by WWEFootos48, Jul 12 2016, 04:53 PM.
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consider the following

1. Seth Rollins defeats Dean Ambrose on Raw to regain the WWE World Title.

2. Seth successfully retains at BattleGround, thus both Roman and Dean's rematches are complete

3. Triple H returns saying he has a rematch clause from WM

4. Seth Rollins vs Triple H set for SummerSlam

is it possible?
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I find it interesting because people are also postulating that Triple H will be announced as the GM of Raw so the authority would be reformed. Honestly, if that were the case, I think that would be a pretty good idea to insert himself into the title match at Summerslam to show his power. I also think he and Rollins can put on an amazing match and it would be a match I'd love to see.

I honestly feel like they're going to play it off like they did the original split where Raw has the egos and drama while SD is that wrestling show we all love. I was also explaining to one of my friends about this current situation because from what he's heard from me and has seen he thought WWE was on an upswing, which they are, but USA is stuck in a TV deal where they aren't getting what they had hoped so they're pushing for better quality TV. The WWE with their network, branding, online stuff is doing very well, but it's just the TV that's lacking. I even said I follow and know absolutely everything that happens on Raw but I don't watch it or DVR it so in the world of their TV deal which is a bunch of their profit, I don't contribute anything. I just wait for the clips to come online which they always are by the time I get out of work. It's such a weird time when the company can put on such compelling stuff yet the ratings are literally just about the worst in history. :lol:
Edited by WWEFootos48, Jul 13 2016, 09:54 AM.
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but arent tv ratings a dying way of judging progress or popularity? youtube, streaming, social meadia..all of that seems like a more accurate reflection. the problem is that wwe is bound by their tv contract and ratings are most likely only going to continue to drop as more people turn to streaming on demand....especially if they ever put instant streaming for Raw and Smackdown on the Network. i know i would stop dvr-ing the shows and would just live off the network :lol:

i still am not a fan of the brand split and still hate the idea of splitting the belts, but have decided to give this a fair chance. i am not going to complain just because i dont like it. i am actually excited for monday and tuesday and look forward to seeing what they do. :tu:
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