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| What Enneagram Type are You?; IOW, What basic personality type are you | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 11 2006, 04:05 PM (1,198 Views) | |
| DigitalCrash27 | Jun 11 2006, 04:05 PM Post #1 |
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AKA Hypnotist
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lol, just take this test to find out: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test.php The first one... it has 126 questions though... so might take a while... lol... anyhow... afterwards you can take the second one to find out your variant... I'm a 2... or 2w3 (with wings)... and have a Social Variant here's what it says about me: http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/type2.php and also http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/TypeTwo.asp and in Wikipedia too >.> yeah... for the description... http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/ EDIT: Forgot to mention that the wings (the w2, w3, w4, or w whatever) are simply your second personality... it doesn't necessarily mean that it's your second personality exactly (if your a two the next highest score could be a 4, but that's not your wing). Your wing has to do with the personalities adjacent to your basic personality (in the case of the 2 it's the 1 and 3) and which one is a bit higher. Here's two examples of the wings: 9w8-Aggressive in their reserve (Avoid Conflict) 8w9-Reserved in their aggressiveness (Like to take conflict head on) 2w1 - more altruistic, principled and high-handed. Wants to do good for others according to generalised standards. Greater focus on vindicating efforts according to the superego's standards, degenerates into martyrdom and conversion reactions. 2w3 - more sociable, charming and seductive. Wants to do good for others according to what others seem to want. Greater focus on validation and attention, degenerates into histrionic behaviour. It doesn't mean that you have both qualities exactly, just that your basic personality is the one that controls you... and your wing plays a small important role in you. |
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| +Sir Spanky | Jun 11 2006, 04:10 PM Post #2 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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too long for me. But may well do it when I resorted to bordom |
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Neon Twilight: thats really gay Neon Twilight: so gay Neon Twilight: gayer than bbm and spanky sex gay | |
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| shuckle14 | Jun 11 2006, 04:46 PM Post #3 |
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Bananated
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Somehow I'm an Investigator =/ |
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| +bearzly | Jun 11 2006, 05:26 PM Post #4 |
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Tangela
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loyalist =/ that was boring but the result was fairly suitable |
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| ATHFfreak | Jun 11 2006, 07:05 PM Post #5 |
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I'm close to being banned!!
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6w5, loyalist with investigator yeah the description was depressing ugh |
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| Soannoying | Jun 11 2006, 07:36 PM Post #6 |
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THEhammer
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5w4 (Investigator with Individualist wing) Sexual Variant This doesn't exactly sound like me -oh oops duh!- as I am the most outspoken student in whatever class I take. Plus artistic definitely isn't me and neither does fantasizing about a savior fit either. |
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http://z3.invisionfree.com/CaptainsModdedS...dex.php?act=idx 8558584's tournament: http://z3.invisionfree.com/CaptainsModdedS...hp?showtopic=21 | |
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| +BBM | Jun 11 2006, 07:40 PM Post #7 |
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hates crunk
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I think this the internet's way of telling you that you suck. |
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| VampireDude34 | Jun 11 2006, 09:04 PM Post #8 |
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Your Friendly Neighbourhood Vampire Dude
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2w3/4w3 Chicks love us sensitive types... |
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| ATHFfreak | Jun 11 2006, 09:04 PM Post #9 |
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I'm close to being banned!!
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eh i didmt see all that, the page with my thing was mainly saying stuff like fear was the deep-rooted reason for all the things I did... |
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| +Chen | Jun 11 2006, 10:47 PM Post #10 |
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Bananated
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the reformer |
Kingdom Heart 2 sux
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| +Amazing Ampharos | Jun 11 2006, 11:09 PM Post #11 |
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Tangela
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It called me the challenger but that's not really fully accurate at all. 8w9... I don't avoid conflict at all, and I'm pretty detatched from physical concerns, except of course the fact that I'm always hungry. This test asked way too many questions about emotion, and I really don't do emotion. It had very little about intellectualism and philosophy which really define who I am. Overall, this test is a FAILURE. It probably gave me 8 just for calling those who avoid conflict weak which they are. By definition, strong means winning in conflict, no? I did call myself strong though, but I don't think it took egomania into account... Wing 8w9 - 10.4 Wing 1w9 - 10.2 Wing 9w8 - 9.9 Wing 9w1 - 9.8 Wing 8w7 - 8.8 Wing 1w2 - 8.3 Wing 7w8 - 6.7 Wing 7w6 - 4.2 |
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| DigitalCrash27 | Jun 12 2006, 12:16 PM Post #12 |
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AKA Hypnotist
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Well... O.o you do seem like a challenger somewhat by the way you just spoke AA If your an 8... then you simply just don't like being controlled... like being a Boss... and the w9 means that your more of reserved in your aggressiveness. Of course... if you're healthy. I don't really think those who avoid conflict are weak though... just misguided (and by saying that it really does kind of fit your personality). Healthy 8s: Level 1 (At Their Best): Become self-restrained and magnanimous, merciful and forbearing, mastering self through their self-surrender to a higher authority. Courageous, willing to put self in serious jeopardy to achieve their vision and have a lasting influence. May achieve true heroism and historical greatness. Level 2: Self-assertive, self-confident, and strong: have learned to stand up for what they need and want. A resourceful, "can do" attitude and passionate inner drive. Level 3: Decisive, authoritative, and commanding: the natural leader others look up to. Take initiative, make things happen: champion people, provider, protective, and honorable, carrying others with their strength. Lust. The passion of lust is not primarily sexual lust, but might better be understood as an addiction to intensity. This lustful intensity arises in response to the loss of the virtue of Innocence. When we are gripped by the passion of Lust, we do not want to have a discussion, we want to have a DISCUSSION, or even an argument. When we are relaxed, open, and present, we feel a natural vitality and experience our inner space and freedom directly. Eights attempt to gain this sense of aliveness and freedom through the intensity of their interactions with the environment and with others. Getting "worked up" makes them feel strong and real. But to the extent that Eights are blocked from relaxation and Presence, they will need to be "worked up" all the time. Thus, lustful Eights are not interested in lukewarm responses to life, and especially do not want weak responses to themselves. "If you are going to go for it, go for it." The more insecure Eights are, however, the greater their need for intensity, excess, struggle, and control. The need to assert themselves can turn into the desire to dominate their environment and the people in it. Ironically, when we have succumbed to the passion of lust, we are quite out of control. The objects of our lust, positive or negative, dominate and control us. Innocence. We think of innocence in connection with children, and indeed, there is something about the open wonder at existence we can see in children that characterizes this Virtue. Innocence is being fully, deeply human: it is simplicity itself. When we are present and awake, we behave without artifice or manipulation. Our responses to life and to other people are completely sincere, direct, and heartfelt. We are completely unselfconscious because we experience a profound communion with the natural world. The universe feels intimate, like it was made for us. Innocence awakens in Eights a largeness of heart that allows them to feel deeply benevolent toward themselves, others, and the world. Their magnanimity is seen in their gentleness, self-restraint, forbearance, mercy, benevolence, and protection of others. and for eights... they're not big in emotion either (and it does say that at their worst are actually cruel to others) so... I don't know. Basically to condense what they're saying into one: Eights simply like to confront problems head on (more than the other types) rather than avoid them... and that's the thing they mostly likely like to do in life. |
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| RagnarokXtreme | Jun 12 2006, 12:32 PM Post #13 |
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Delibird
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Wing 5w6 - 14.8 Wing 6w5 - 13.7 Wing 5w4 - 13 Wing 4w5 - 10.1 Wing 9w8 - 10 Wing 9w1 - 9.2 Wing 3w4 - 9.1 Wing 6w7 - 9 Wing 4w3 - 8.1 Wing 3w2 - 7.4 Self-preservation variant |
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| DigitalCrash27 | Jun 12 2006, 12:59 PM Post #14 |
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AKA Hypnotist
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Well... at their best 5s are: Level 1(At Their Best): Become visionaries, broadly comprehending the world while penetrating it profoundly. Open-minded, take things in whole, in their true context. Make pioneering discoveries and find entirely new ways of doing and perceiving things. Level 2: Observe everything with extraordinary perceptiveness and insight. Most mentally alert, curious, searching intelligence: nothing escapes their notice. Foresight and prediction. Able to concentrate: become engrossed in what has caught their attention. Level 3: Attain skillful mastery of whatever interests them. Excited by knowledge: often become expert in some field. Innovative and inventive, producing extremely valuable, original works. Highly independent, idiosyncratic, and whimsical. Passion: Avarice. The meaning of the word "avarice" is often misunderstood as it applies to type Five. Avarice is usually associated with greed, or the desire to accumulate worldly possessions; however, avarice does not necessarily express itself in materialistic ways. Avarice began to manifest in us when, as small children, we lost contact with our essential natures, and consequently felt small, tiny, and helpless in a vast, uncaring universe. This left all of us, and Fives especially, terrified of life and doubting our ability to function in the world. Thus, Avarice leads Fives to feel that they must retreat from reality or defend against it, while trying to restore the feeling that they are capable and competent to deal with this overwhelming situation. It leads to an emotional attitude of rejection and detachment—a turning away from the world as if one were not part of it. Avarice causes us to feel as though the universe has rejected us, so we better find a way to make do with our wits and with a minimal of support and resources. Avarice is often confused, with Gluttony, the Passion of type Seven. Gluttony seeks to fill the emptiness of the false self up with experiences and ideas from "outside." Avarice is also based on a sense of inner impoverishment, but copes by withholding the self, by shrinking back from contact, and by clutching at the little we think we already have because we are afraid of losing it. The ego self feels empty, rejected, and without nourishing sustenance, so it hoards whatever it feels it has. Avarice is trying to retain in the self the resources and knowledge the ego believes it needs to function in the world. Thus, Avarice in Fives is most often expressed as a kind of collector mentality, collecting more and more knowledge, reading more and more books, continually preparing themselves so that they will be able to go out into the world with confidence. Virtue: Non-Attachment. Although Ichazo's original name for the Virtue at point Five is Detachment, we prefer the term Non-Attachment to distinguish it from the emotional detachment caused by schizoid withdrawal—the rejection of one's feelings and need for nurturing. Non-Attachment contains no hint of rejection; in fact, it requires a radical acceptance of reality. It is the quality described by the familiar spiritual injunction to "be in the world but not of it." When we are present and abiding in our true natures, we do not cling to anything, inner or outer. Particularly, we no longer need to cling to the endless activity of the mind as a source of identity and orientation to the world. We feel at one with the unfolding universe and as if we contain it within us at the same time. Everything touches and transforms us, yet there is nothing that we need to attach our identity to; our existence is not based on anything, not our thoughts, not our feelings, not our body, not our perceptions. Everything arises and disappears in a state of profound stillness and peace. This state of non-attachment also gives us a profound compassion for all living things because we see their transient nature. When there is no need to attach ourselves to any view, it is easy to be compassionate and forgivng ("Tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner"—"To understand all is to forgive all"). |
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| +Amazing Ampharos | Jun 12 2006, 09:47 PM Post #15 |
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Tangela
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The big flaw I see is that I don't "want to be the boss". I don't want to be controlled either; I think the idea of someone controlling someone else is just plain stupid. Yes, I do have fun with the whole administrator thing, but at the end of the day, I don't want to make anyone do anything they don't want to do; I just want us all to have fun. also: mastering self through their self-surrender to a higher authority What? No. There is no such thing. I don't believe in god, and I'm not going to take orders from the leader of some ridiculous institution. Mastering self is a nothing task; you are you and you make you do what you want. Yes, I do challenge things, but they seem to want to tack on little characteristics that aren't nessecarily true. Not wanting controlled does not mean I want to order anyone around. I'm not going to surrender to any higher authority; the idea of authority in and of itself is pretty stupid. So yes, I challenge even the basic underlyings of society as hierarchy was a stupid idea humanity came up with; IMO it was probably the same moron who thought up war. As per the virtue/vice bit... Basically the whole diatribe about lust is just misconstruing underlying virtues. Competition is a beautiful thing; a wonderful clash of skill in any game is so utterly satisfying that it completely refreshes even the defeated and inspires all who witness it. Also, since when does this whole thing have to be interlocked with domineering? The ideal competition ends in a hardfought victory for one side, and then they shake hands as gentleman. To the victor goes the spoils; to the loser goes the glory of a hardfought match. Yes, if you become overly obsessive about something you do become somewhat enslaved to it, but that's another matter entirely. This is doubly true if you are lazy and are willing to do anything at the best of times to do anything - tommorrow. As per the part about innocence, much of it seems overly flowery. I mean, connection to the natural world? The world is atoms; all are equally "nautural". I don't really understand what really constitutes "unnatural" other than the silly idea that humans and their works somehow don't count, as if we're some sort of magic exception to how things "should be". Even when we go to extremes and detonate nuclear weapons, totally disruping the world on both the macro and micro levels, we aren't being any more unnatural than a beaver who builds his dam and clogs a stream. The universe being intimate is a somewhat strange idea; it's of immense size approaching infinity. Of course, for some reason people seem to be attracted to small things, and the idea that in your whole life you will impact less than a trillionth of a trillionth of a percent of the universe distresses some people, but really, if you think about it, the size is just the more for us to have. Would you rather be in a small room filled with gold or a large one? One is intimate; the other is not. I'll take the big, non-intimate room. Of course, innocence as a term implies a form of ignorance, and if you want to be magnanimous and protect others you need wisdom as courage and love without wisdom is wasted effort toward a meaningless cause that is either way doomed to failure. Of course, being calculating actually should make you a pretty good guy as if you think about it there are infinite reasons helping others makes sense and very few that would make it a poor idea. If your goal is to increase the collective knowledge of mankind, saving the life of another is a sheer boon as now two of you can do your own small parts to work toward this goal. If you help 100 people, you are probably doing more for your goal than you personally could ever do(or maybe not, but you can't count on a wonderful, revolutionary discovery falling into your lap). The last thing is that saying those who avoid conflict is weak is fundamentally true. Now, most people think of things in strict good/bad terms and think of weak as bad, and they don't dislike those who avoid conflict, so they won't call them weak. Well, what is strength? Strength is possessing power. This is not a positive or a negative; it is simply a definition. Power is the ability to do things. Weakness is the opposite of strength. Avoiding conflict is avoiding doing something about something. Therefore, avoiding conflict is weak. It may even be the right thing to do, but either way, it's weak. Perhaps in some cases it is best to be weak, but that doesn't mean that weak isn't weak. Ok, yes, I'm arguing with the whole thing. It attempts to take a basic thing like standing up for what you believe in and call it a whole personality type and also to attach several strings to it that really don't fit in with it at all. What if you live your life by a simple set of principles, and all life is is a constant choice to uphold them? You'll have to engage in much conflict, and you will come off as quite a challenger, but is that not just being a good person? |
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| +BBM | Jun 12 2006, 09:57 PM Post #16 |
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hates crunk
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Well AA argued with it, delete it now or it's wrong. |
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| DigitalCrash27 | Jun 12 2006, 10:44 PM Post #17 |
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Well... they're not saying that challengers are bad people AA... they're simply saying that at they're worst... they can turn bad. It's obvious that you aren't but their are key points to what you say that prove you are a Challenger. Out of the 9 types the challenger is indeed the one that is most similar to you... and this doesn't mean that you are exactly what they say you are... it's just that your similarities match that with the eight. It really does, now you don't have to believe in it... I'm not forcing you to tell you that this is who you are (or rather who you must be) but you know... this is just bleh... something quite interesting. Well bleh I know this isn't the best way to prove a point, but I can prove my point by highlighting things you've said... that really do match what is said by the eight: mastering self through their self-surrender to a higher authority What? No. There is no such thing. I don't believe in god, and I'm not going to take orders from the leader of some ridiculous institution. Mastering self is a nothing task; you are you and you make you do what you want. Now, this is just at their best though, AA... on the other levels... Eights think exactly the way you do... to eights... their is no such thing as Self-surrender until something in their lives come in and makes them think of such a thought (now... you see this as being weak, but the site sees this as getting stronger... not saying anybodies right or wrong though, but just pointing it out) Not wanting controlled does not mean I want to order anyone around. I'm not going to surrender to any higher authority; the idea of authority in and of itself is pretty stupid. Ok, even though eights might feel like controlling others... their basic fear (as they called it... or perhaps what they don't want least...) is being controlled. Like you said... you don't like surrendering to any higher authority. Now... even though Innocence is the Eights Virtue... it's not really what they are always doing... it's more of... once you achieve Innocence. For example my virtue and vice is Pride and Humility. Twos feel Pride because they help others... the love helping others... and love getting a reaction from others (they want to feel love and have learned that in order for people to like them, they have to give, and give and help, because people like to be helped) but even though this seems unselfish... they're doing it for their own needs... if they want to feel love, they find that this is the only way to do this. Thus... twos help with hopes of the person returning something back (love and admiration). They are uncapable of accepting trouble ("I'm the helper not you, I'll be there for you, I don't need help") and hide how lonely they feel. This is at their worst though, and as they "proceed"(according to the site) they learn humility... the ability to help people without having to expect them giving something in return. They'll just do it for the heck of it and are (apparently) humble. This doesn't mean that they have both Pride and Humility simultaneously though... this means that as the proceed... they learn about humility, and as they digress, they become more prideful. Believe me... for me... this was true... but that's a whole 'nother story (and I understand what they mean about humility... just simply can't accept it yet). So basically... if you feel that about innocence now... then obviously you're simply not their yet (or probably don't want to be there yet, because you see innocence as a way of being weak), but this happens with all eights at first they find innocence as a form of being weak (or perhaps always do). The last thing is that saying those who avoid conflict is weak is fundamentally true. Ok, your right... take a look at this actually it's Eight's quality: From point Eight, we experience Essential Strength. Strength is an expansive energy, and when it is manifesting we feel large, solid, capable, and alive. Not surprisingly, essential strength arises in defense of our souls—it protects our process and its integrity. It provides a foundation and ground that gives us the ability to discriminate present, real experience from projections and reactions from the past, as well as to tolerate more painful, subtle, or empty states. Without this quality, we may have profound experiences, but we will not be able to embody or sustain them in any meaningful way. so... I guess your right... to avoid conflict is to be weak (I tend focus less on this... I don't really concentrate much on this... and as the enneagram states... I do indeed focus on Unconditional Love) So you see... according to the enneagram Eights: -Decisive, Confrontational, not afraid to -Quality of Strength -Courageous -Self-assertive it's not really saying that you control others... or it is... but that goes for other Eights... who are unhealthier and unhappier you have to remember that each ego contains different levels of development. Here's the Eight's: Healthy Levels Level 1 (At Their Best): Become self-restrained and magnanimous, merciful and forbearing, mastering self through their self-surrender to a higher authority. Courageous, willing to put self in serious jeopardy to achieve their vision and have a lasting influence. May achieve true heroism and historical greatness. Level 2: Self-assertive, self-confident, and strong: have learned to stand up for what they need and want. A resourceful, "can do" attitude and passionate inner drive. Level 3: Decisive, authoritative, and commanding: the natural leader others look up to. Take initiative, make things happen: champion people, provider, protective, and honorable, carrying others with their strength. Average Levels Level 4: Self-sufficiency, financial independence, and having enough resources are important concerns: become enterprising, pragmatic, "rugged individualists," wheeler-dealers. Risk-taking, hardworking, denying own emotional needs. Level 5: Begin to dominate their environment, including others: want to feel that others are behind them, supporting their efforts. Swaggering, boastful, forceful, and expansive: the "boss" whose word is law. Proud, egocentric, want to impose their will and vision on everything, not seeing others as equals or treating them with respect. Level 6: Become highly combative and intimidating to get their way: confrontational, belligerent, creating adversarial relationships. Everything a test of wills, and they will not back down. Use threats and reprisals to get obedience from others, to keep others off balance and insecure. However, unjust treatment makes others fear and resent them, possibly also band together against them. Unhealthy Levels Level 7: Defying any attempt to control them, become completely ruthless, dictatorial, "might makes right." The criminal and outlaw, renegade, and con-artist. Hard-hearted, immoral and potentially violent. Level 8: Develop delusional ideas about their power, invincibility, and ability to prevail: megalomania, feeling omnipotent, invulnerable. Recklessly over-extending self. Level 9: If they get in danger, they may brutally destroy everything that has not conformed to their will rather than surrender to anyone else. Vengeful, barbaric, murderous. Sociopathic tendencies. Generally corresponds to the Antisocial Personality Disorder. Key Motivations: Want to be self-reliant, to prove their strength and resist weakness, to be important in their world, to dominate the environment, and to stay in control of their situation. |
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| +bearzly | Jun 12 2006, 11:16 PM Post #18 |
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Tangela
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You are most likely a type 1 (the Reformer) with 9 wing Social variant weird I'm not very social at all |
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| +Crunk Juice | Jun 12 2006, 11:37 PM Post #19 |
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bbm is (super) gay
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I AM THE CHALLLENGER RAWR but aa hates me now
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| +Amazing Ampharos | Jun 13 2006, 02:31 AM Post #20 |
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Tangela
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How can you try to deny my assertion there is no higher authority to surrender to without providing some example of a higher authority? That seems to be subtly religious actually, unless you consider the government an institution worthy of surrender to. Unless you claim that to be the best means that you must believe in god(I highly doubt you want to make that claim); there is no way that submitting to a higher authority is what it means to be best. This is just logic. All descriptions of this eight seem to lead to characters like Napoleon and Alexander the Great, and they did not submit to any higher authorities. You might claim that they were not the best, but if they are in fact to be judged as inferior competitors, I would state that the scale of measuring best is flawed. Granted, they did not have great moral integrity(save for a tremendous respect for their own men), but they were basically idealized insofar as the personality traits of competitiveness and the like go. Also, as per the control issue, you missed my point. I was saying the idea of authority is stupid. I indeed don't want to be controlled at all, and I can easily avoid that by thinking for myself and rejecting authority. However, the common confusion is that because I don't want others in control that I want myself in control. I only desire control insofar as I have freedom over my own actions; I have absolutely zero desire to manipulate anyone else; I would actually feel quite false to myself if I did. I'll own up to it; I love the ideas of freedom. I believe that much of the US Constitution and the Declaration of Independence would classify as some of the greatest philosophy ever written(other parts not so much...). As per innocence, it is one of those things that is basically always lost and never gained. I do not disdain innocence; I have a great love for the innocent(small children and many kinds of animals). However, as one matures, innocence is naturally lost as one gains wisdom. This is a sacrifice; some of your inherent purity is lost, never to be regained. However, for your innocence, you achieve wisdom. This wisdom is far less easy to live with than the innocence you used to have, but part of growing up is learning to make due with what you get. Ultimately, even if the wisdom is less fulfilling, it is far more useful. People can use the wisdom they gain at the expense of their innocence to help others and to strive for a better world. I can say that I ultimately am happy at the trade I received. Sure, I may not ever be able to live as happy and carefree of a life as I once was, but now, with the wisdom I have gained, I can go out and truly realize my dreams. I think this is the final, healthy end of innocence. Note, however, that even though most of our innocence is lost as we grow older, we never lose it all, and it is important to hold onto some of it. For instance, I am still quite innocent insofar as I've never killed someone. I am also innocent insofar as I've never had sex or done drugs. And, yes, there is a form of wisdom to be gained by doing those things, but ultimately it is worth less that the innocence. And of course society leads to that. Everyone learns where babies come from and that there is no Santa, but most do not kill or do drugs(ok, the second part grows less and less true as time goes on, but I think as of now it's still valid). It's a pursuit of equilibrium between the happiness gained by innocence and the ability granted by knowledge. One thing I must distinguish clearly is that most terms have both denotation and connotations, and that I am strictly being dennotative. When I call something weak, I am not calling it bad. When I say killing gains wisdom, I am not calling killing good. There is a common misconception that because something can be accurately labeled with a word commonly associated as good or bad, that the thing itself is in fact good or bad. However, this is folly. I call avoiding conflict weak; I did not call it bad. It is weak; you are renouncing your power in the situation to create happiness. That can in fact be a good thing, a very good thing at times. However, it is still weak. It works on the other end of the spectrum as well. You can grow very wise from doing bad things; you gain insight into both the technical and emotional aspects of the crimes. You can become very wise to the ways of the world like that even. However, it is clearly a negative, not a positive. The wisdom gained is only useful in causing further harm; it has no useful purpose. Furthermore, you sacrifice the type of innocence that is even more painful to lose and much more essential to our beings, and you basically guarantee that you will never be happy. It is true that you can actively work toward repentance and somewhat undo the damage, but by the nature of the shortness of a human life, you cannot undo fully the damages you did. Plus, I view life like a chemical equation; you put something in and get something out. If you want what you put in back, you have to give back what you got. If you killed someone, to get back what you got, you would have to revive them which is, to current knowledge, impossible. I don't believe in a such thing as a soul. I am firm in the conviction that our selves, or that which we percieve as the self and not merely the body, is simply the constant relay of electrical signals in our brains. The strength you identify as essential strength is important, but other than the insane, who cannot discern present from past and truth from falsehood? We all make mistakes in those regards, but virtually all sane people have a substantial power in that regard. It also seems to encompass tolerance of displeasure which is something else we clearly all possess, or else we'd all be hedonists who would commit the most painless suicide possible as soon as we felt one of the infinite discomforts of life. Yes, bbm, I think the test is heavily flawed and in the end not worth it, but it's a fun thing to argue. Digital Crash gets a gold star as a poster as I get to argue about life philosophy in his topics, especially since he seems to quite disagree with me. Yes, in that sense I am a textbook 8; I love to argue. |
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| +Sir Spanky | Jun 13 2006, 11:03 AM Post #21 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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You are most likely a type 6. Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 5w6 or 6w5. Type 6 - 10.3 Type 9 - 10 Type 5 - 10 Type 1 - 6.7 Type 4 - 6.3 Wing 6w5 - 15.3 Wing 5w6 - 15.2 Wing 9w1 - 13.3 Wing 5w4 - 13.2 Wing 1w9 - 11.7 Wing 4w5 - 11.3 Wing 6w7 - 11.2 Wing 9w8 - 10.7 Wing 1w2 - 7.7 Wing 4w3 - 7.4 What is it telling me ;_; Btw for the sort test: You are most likely a type 5 (the Investigator) with 6 wing Self-preservation variant Spanky |
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| +BBM | Jun 13 2006, 12:19 PM Post #22 |
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Enneagram Test Results You are most likely a type 5. Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 8w9 or 9w8. It is not clear from these test results which Enneagram type you are. To determine your true type, you might want to start by considering the types with the highest scores on the lists below. Also, there are many fine books and other websites that contain detailed descriptions of the types. Consulting these might give you the information you need to determine your true type. As knowing your Enneagram type involves self-knowledge, you might want to observe and analyze your behavior and motivations. You might also benefit from taking the test again later. (Note that your lowest scores may be omitted.) Type 5 - 10.3 Type 8 - 9.7 Type 9 - 9.7 Type 3 - 7 Type 2 - 7 Type 7 - 6.7 Type 1 - 6 Type 6 - 5 Type 4 - 4.7 Wing 8w9 - 14.5 Wing 9w8 - 14.5 Wing 8w7 - 13 Wing 5w6 - 12.8 Wing 9w1 - 12.7 Wing 5w4 - 12.7 Wing 7w8 - 11.6 Wing 1w9 - 10.8 Wing 3w2 - 10.5 Wing 2w3 - 10.5 Wing 6w5 - 10.2 Wing 2w1 - 10 Wing 4w5 - 9.9 Wing 1w2 - 9.5 Wing 3w4 - 9.3 Wing 7w6 - 9.2 Wing 6w7 - 8.3 Wing 4w3 - 8.2 Wtf does that mean? That I'm a little of everything? How does that work? |
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| DigitalCrash27 | Jun 13 2006, 02:41 PM Post #23 |
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AKA Hypnotist
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Actually... in a sense we are all all types. It's just that there's basically 1 type that governs most of us and affect how we treat others, ourselves and what we do. In the end it's really up to you to find out which description fits you. Anyhow... I'll just type the key motivations of the types (might as well all of them): (1)Key Motivations: Want to be right, to strive higher and improve everything, to be consistent with their ideals, to justify themselves, to be beyond criticism so as not to be condemned by anyone. (2)Key Motivations: Want to be loved, to express their feelings for others, to be needed and appreciated, to get others to respond to them, to vindicate their claims about themselves. (3)Key Motivations: Want to be affirmed, to distinguish themselves from others, to have attention, to be admired, and to impress others. (4)Key Motivations: Want to express themselves and their individuality, to create and surround themselves with beauty, to maintain certain moods and feelings, to withdraw to protect their self-image, to take care of emotional needs before attending to anything else, to attract a "rescuer." (5)Key Motivations: Want to possess knowledge, to understand the environment, to have everything figured out as a way of defending the self from threats from the environment. (6)Key Motivations: Want to have security, to feel supported by others, to have certitude and reassurance, to test the attitudes of others toward them, to fight against anxiety and insecurity. (7)Key Motivations: Want to maintain their freedom and happiness, to avoid missing out on worthwhile experiences, to keep themselves excited and occupied, to avoid and discharge pain. (8)Key Motivations: Want to be self-reliant, to prove their strength and resist weakness, to be important in their world, to dominate the environment, and to stay in control of their situation. (9)Key Motivations: Want to create harmony in their environment, to avoid conflicts and tension, to preserve things as they are, to resist whatever would upset or disturb them. |
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| DigitalCrash27 | Jun 13 2006, 04:08 PM Post #24 |
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AKA Hypnotist
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Heh, I guess I do have an eight in my ego... arguing O.o never saw it before... but yeah... I still like helping more. Even though... I have a tendency to look at arguing the same way you do. Also for the soul... don't think about it as that which goes to heaven (as I'm agnostic) but think of it as the essence. You should probably know that genes play an important part in our lives, and the way we look at things depend on how they make us perceive them. Somewhere in the genes is embedded our personality, what makes us who we are... and I've thought about it... but I can't really see any other personality other than those 9 basic personalities without the personality being a mix of them (and completely new personality that represents a different sin, etc.). Anyhow yeah, think of the soul as the parts in our brain that make us who we are (the parts that make the essence of our personality). Tolerating part in strength, thing is even though it's an ability we all possess, for some of us it slowly breaks apart. Strength is the ability to tolerate stress, when in some conditions one person might break apart due to the conditions (emotional conditions), the person with the highest strength can remain steady, focused and concentrated without being phased by the problems in life. As for the past and present, yeah we can discern past from present but what they meant was that... with strength you don't get so caught up in the past (like... as a really simple example "No, my grandpa died" vs "My grandpa died, but we have to move on"). That's what they meant by strength basically, and even though all people might possess it, some possess it more than others (which is the strength they're referring to). This tends to be the quality that Eights possess that the others might also possess it but not consider it as much as eight. Also... the innocence they're talking about really isn't the one where if you've done something wrong your innocent or guilty... it's actually more of... a different type of innocence, which can rather be confused with kindness, it's like (as they say) having an open wonder at existence or bleh... can't really explain that... and I can't say I fully understand it either... if that were the case I could explain it. The self-surrender part was to surrender to higher authorities... people like your parents lets say, or teachers, not god or the government, but those types of authorities. Besides, it couldn't really be god or the government... you'd have to have an argument with them first... and that's kind of hard to do, they mean self-surrendering in arguments you can't win... or basically more flexible in what you choose. Like for another simple example, if a friend asks if you want ice cream but you just don't feel like it at all, but just to be a nice guy "you surrender" and just eat ice cream with him/her. Now if you were like a general or something, and you were in combat for a good reason, then of course you're not going to surrender. That's what they basically mean by that. At their healthiest points eights don't control or manipulate either, so if you don't do that... then that just simply means that your a healthy eight. By the looks of it... very healthy. O.o Like I said before... the want to control others isn't what really makes an eight... it's the ability to take action, never give up, and have confidence. When suffering, if they aren't the wisest, these can be directed negatively thus the descriptions of them at the unhealthy stage (just remember that we also have the qualities from the other types too, just that the eight seems to be your main type). I didn't get the exact description of a two either. I don't like manipulating people either, or rather don't want to be mean to them as the unhealthier stages describe... but does that mean I'm not a two? No it doesn't it just simply means that the two is my main type, but I'm also aware of others in the way other types are due to how they are placed in me. |
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| Gojithefox | Jun 13 2006, 10:28 PM Post #25 |
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My random disappearances are legendary
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Wing 5w6 - 17.9 Wing 6w5 - 17.7 Wing 6w7 - 15.3 Wing 3w2 - 14.8 Wing 5w4 - 14.7 Wing 1w2 - 14.5 Wing 3w4 - 14.3 Wing 1w9 - 13.5 Wing 7w6 - 13.1 Wing 2w3 - 12.1 Wing 2w1 - 11.9 Wing 4w5 - 11.3 Wing 4w3 - 11.1 Wing 7w8 - 9.3 Self-preservation instinct |
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