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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 19 2006, 08:03 PM (1,121 Views) | |
| +Crunk Juice | Jul 19 2006, 08:03 PM Post #1 |
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bbm is (super) gay
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Seriously Kanga owns so much unless you use Banete/Gar/MissyD. It Bu's then Rest's off damaga in one turn :/ just take off Early Bird, and everything would be good. And Celebitch needs to lose either Recover, or Natural Cure. v_v |
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| +BBM | Jul 19 2006, 08:07 PM Post #2 |
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hates crunk
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Yes please. Also, moving to implement Pure Power Sla--*gets shot* |
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| Soannoying | Jul 19 2006, 08:15 PM Post #3 |
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THEhammer
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Celebi doesn't need recover removed. It has a quadruple bug weakness and six nonbug types are SE to celebi. That pretty much goes for all the celebi nurfs suggested here. |
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| uberhaxx0r | Jul 19 2006, 08:17 PM Post #4 |
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your mother
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Fix'd. |
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| uberhaxx0r | Jul 19 2006, 08:19 PM Post #5 |
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your mother
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wtf srry I don't know How I double posted |
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| Soannoying | Jul 19 2006, 08:20 PM Post #6 |
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THEhammer
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don't mess with my quotes. |
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| uberhaxx0r | Jul 19 2006, 08:20 PM Post #7 |
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your mother
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I didn't mess with your quotes I messed with your post. |
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| Soannoying | Jul 19 2006, 08:22 PM Post #8 |
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THEhammer
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Well don't mess with my post! :angry: Edit: oh really haxx0r? latios IB will do 48 to 57% to celebi. |
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| ATHFfreak | Jul 19 2006, 08:25 PM Post #9 |
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I'm close to being banned!!
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aahahhaaha Also on topic, no |
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| Soannoying | Jul 19 2006, 08:33 PM Post #10 |
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THEhammer
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Edit: oh really haxx0r? latios IB will do 48 to 57% to celebi. |
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| +Sir Spanky | Jul 19 2006, 08:35 PM Post #11 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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Losing Early Bird is good, but perhaps lose EQ so it has to go old-skool lax type coverage? EDIT: Or turn BU into Curse so it wrecks my fast Kanga spread... |
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Neon Twilight: thats really gay Neon Twilight: so gay Neon Twilight: gayer than bbm and spanky sex gay | |
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| uberhaxx0r | Jul 19 2006, 08:54 PM Post #12 |
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your mother
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that's there for a reason dumbfuck |
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| +bearzly | Jul 19 2006, 09:08 PM Post #13 |
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Tangela
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taking early bird sounds like the best option to me I have been supporting getting rid of natural cure celebi for a veeeeery long time |
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| +Y2JosHBK | Jul 19 2006, 09:15 PM Post #14 |
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Bananated
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Kanga is finally good, and now everyone wants him nerfed >_>. Just make BU and rest illegal, and you are good. And if celebi loses recover, it basically has nothing going for it. Celebi is fine the way it is. Losing leech seed is more than enough. |
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| +Crunk Juice | Jul 19 2006, 11:14 PM Post #15 |
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bbm is (super) gay
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No no no what i wan't and think would be best is Kangaskhan Illegal trait Early Bird and Celebi Illegal trait Natural Cure |
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| +Y2JosHBK | Jul 19 2006, 11:23 PM Post #16 |
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Bananated
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No, kanga should have early bird as it is a very good, trait,as long as it is illegal with bulk up, your problems are solved. |
| Legends Killed: Bugsy, Goofball, Ms. New Booty, Hotdogturtle, LatinoHeat, Soannoying, Cena_jr_916, , blkmage, ShinigamiMiroku, Phiddlesticks, ATHFfreak, Chen, Crunk Juice, BrownBattleMage, Rekt, Amazing Ampharos, Squirtster | |
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| +Crunk Juice | Jul 19 2006, 11:34 PM Post #17 |
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bbm is (super) gay
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that was me |
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| +Y2JosHBK | Jul 20 2006, 12:02 AM Post #18 |
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Bananated
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No, not the trait, the move rest. |
| Legends Killed: Bugsy, Goofball, Ms. New Booty, Hotdogturtle, LatinoHeat, Soannoying, Cena_jr_916, , blkmage, ShinigamiMiroku, Phiddlesticks, ATHFfreak, Chen, Crunk Juice, BrownBattleMage, Rekt, Amazing Ampharos, Squirtster | |
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| uberhaxx0r | Jul 20 2006, 01:56 AM Post #19 |
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your mother
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more liek Illegal, Pokemon, Kanga seriously though bu + rest illegal edit: also no natural cure celerii |
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| Banzo803 | Jul 20 2006, 06:16 AM Post #20 |
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Tangela
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BU + rest - illegal is a bit too far, I'd just take Crunk's Celebi and Josh's Kanga suggestions. |
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| +Sir Spanky | Jul 20 2006, 06:54 AM Post #21 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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Banzo didn't Josh suggest BU+Rest illegal in the first place? If not I don't think you can make moves and traits illegal, otherwise I would be rapidly campaigning for Pain Split+WG illegal on Sheddy
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Neon Twilight: thats really gay Neon Twilight: so gay Neon Twilight: gayer than bbm and spanky sex gay | |
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| +Chen | Jul 20 2006, 06:57 AM Post #22 |
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Bananated
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needs more endeavour + qa sheddy |
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| +Sir Spanky | Jul 20 2006, 07:42 AM Post #23 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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That was what I meant in the first place >_< I support Endeavour+Sandstream sheddy because shouting DOUBLE KILL makes me feel really manly. |
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Neon Twilight: thats really gay Neon Twilight: so gay Neon Twilight: gayer than bbm and spanky sex gay | |
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| Soannoying | Jul 23 2006, 01:09 PM Post #24 |
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THEhammer
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I have to agree with crunk on the kanga nurf. Kanga is too much like a standard lax defensively except faster. A standard lax takes a three turn rest and its base stats for special defenses equal 270 (160+110) but divided over a three-turn rest equaling 90. Kanga on the other hand has a two turn rest and its base special defenses equal 185 (105+85) and divided by two equal 92.5. Plus, Khangaskhan has better defense but that doesn't matter much because we're comparing a curser versus a bulk upper which both boost defense. Now, A Kanga's offensive is no doubt worse than standard lax's but its good enough to tear apart teams with physical sweep. Sure it can be get physically walled and of course its not going to be defeated by walling and as I pointed out before its better at using rest than standard snorlax. |
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| +Jolteon | Jul 23 2006, 01:24 PM Post #25 |
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Army of fgts
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Kanga needs too much set-up for a nerf, instead of whining as soon as it becomes good, try and figure out a counter/use some of the actual counters. It is not in need of a nerf. |
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(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash (21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle ^the truth
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| +Crunk Juice | Jul 23 2006, 01:24 PM Post #26 |
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bbm is (super) gay
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you didnt want this until bugsy raped you wih kanga |
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| +Sir Spanky | Jul 23 2006, 01:25 PM Post #27 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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What an earth are you going on about soannoying? I don't understand how you can say snorlax's special defence is "270 (160+110)". Firstly I have no idea why you split it in brackets, and secondly, Snorlax has 300 Special defence minimum. Hell I run 320 on most of mine, which messes with your arguement somewhat. Snorlax is has at least another 100hp if not more, a better attack stats, and an equal defence stat. Infact it is only hindered by a 3 turn rest and a slower speed. Now I agree Kanga needs a nerf, but don't even begin to say it was in the same league as Snorlax. Spanky |
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| Banzo803 | Jul 23 2006, 04:03 PM Post #28 |
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Tangela
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Maybe he got his base stats mixed up or something :? |
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| +Sir Spanky | Jul 23 2006, 04:08 PM Post #29 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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Or he gave Kanga max special defence and gave Snorlax no EV's at all
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| Soannoying | Jul 23 2006, 08:04 PM Post #30 |
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THEhammer
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Actually I totally ignored EVs all I did was use base stats as in the base stats used to defend against a special attack or physical attack. I'm not talking about the actual lv 100 stats. Actually just forcing it to use curse instead of bulk up would make it defeatable by physical tanks with taunt and spanky I already said that snorlax's offensive outclasses that of Kanga. |
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