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omgwtf Entei lol; the forgotten legend...
Topic Started: Jul 28 2006, 12:33 AM (735 Views)
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Bugsy and I were discussing what on earth we could give Entei to make it actually useable, since it gets outclassed by even Arcanine who has worse stats <_<

Anyway, this is what we came up with:

[01:04:11] meddle: entei might be cool with some mods
[01:04:29] meddle: i dunno what it would get though
[01:04:37] Bugsy23: iono either
[01:05:00] Bugsy23: the fact that it has to use flamthrower kinda differs it from other stuff
[01:05:15] meddle: yea
[01:05:31] meddle: it has banette's attack power
[01:05:40] Bugsy23: yeah
[01:05:41] Bugsy23: hmm
[01:05:42] meddle: really good hp
[01:05:54] meddle: and base 100 speed
[01:05:57] Bugsy23: maybe a mixed set can work but i dunno all of its moves
[01:06:12] meddle: its like flamethrower.. and thats it
[01:06:15] meddle: return
[01:06:17] meddle: lol
[01:06:21] Bugsy23: yeah just the normal stuff
[01:06:29] meddle: it gets ice beam here
[01:06:31] Bugsy23: it could use a better movepool, even arcanine has one
[01:06:45] meddle: yea if arcanine is usable, entei is
[01:06:55] Bugsy23: arcanine has eq now
[01:06:59] meddle: yea
[01:07:18] meddle: dragon dance entei lol
[01:08:37] meddle: maybe rock head and double-edge iono
[01:08:43] Bugsy23: hmm
[01:08:59] Bugsy23: time to open team builder
[01:09:44] meddle: it doesnt even get overheat :\
[01:09:50] Bugsy23: yeah...
[01:09:53] Bugsy23: hmm
[01:10:12] Bugsy23: very limited movepool
[01:11:03] Bugsy23: eah maybe a better trait
[01:11:08] Bugsy23: yeah*
[01:11:16] meddle: intimidate or something
[01:11:22] Bugsy23: hmm
[01:11:33] Bugsy23: maybe somthing to differ it from arcanine though
[01:11:43] meddle: yeah
[01:12:07] Bugsy23: what if it could early bird rest would that help at all
[01:12:09] meddle: its sorta like a bulkier arcanine
[01:12:29] meddle: with less spatk
[01:12:47] meddle: eh iono if it could early bird rest well
[01:12:56] meddle: just lures out EQers probably
[01:13:14] meddle: maybe if it could bulk up
[01:13:17] Bugsy23: it also has trouble against rocks
[01:13:23] Bugsy23: yeah i was thinking about that
[01:13:47] meddle: some fighting move?
[01:14:00] Bugsy23: um
[01:14:06] meddle: brick break or submission
[01:14:19] meddle: are the only ones that make sense really
[01:14:23] Bugsy23: bb would be better but submission sounds better
[01:14:52] Bugsy23: it also helps against lax and co who can switch into it
[01:14:59] Bugsy23: cm sets
[01:15:02] meddle: it just gets outclassed
[01:15:06] meddle: in every way
[01:15:09] Bugsy23: yep
[01:15:25] meddle: something to make use of its attack would be good
[01:17:17] meddle: it can haze registeel =\
[01:17:39] Bugsy23: yeah
[01:17:53] Bugsy23: although registeel would be scared of flamethrower
[01:17:58] Bugsy23: and i dont think eq ohkos

so to recap some ideas:

Attacks:
Dragon Dance
Earthquake
Brick Break
Submission
Overheat
Bulk Up

Traits:
Early Bird
Rock Head
Intimidate
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I really like this idea!
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it surely should get AT LEAST eq
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I like Earthquake, Brick Break, Bulk Up, Intimidate.

Dragon Dance seems kinda random, but also a little bit broken.
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Out of all the traits, I think Intimidate suits Entei the best. It is the most intimidating of the legendary dogs, imo, so that would make sense. As for the attacks, Entei should definately get eq, overheat, brick break, and bulk up. Seriously, [/B]why didn't Nintendo give Entei these moves in the first place?
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Move, Cross Chop, Entei
Move, Swords Dance, Entei
Move, Reversal, Entei

(from: Suggestions What Else? topic)
Move, Flail, Entei

I'm just adding to the list with the above. Swords Dance is the best move for simply boosting its stastical strength attack (unless it's broken I don't know but if it is bulk up will probably do). Entei really needs reversal/flail it fits its stats very well because Entei has 100 speed, 115 attack and hp. Cross Chop is the strongest fighting move though it doesn't break reflects/light screens or have good pp.
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I say either-

Bulk Up
Earthquake
Submission
Reversal
Superpower
Psycho Boost

or

Meditate
Superpower
Psycho Boost
Reversal
Recover

Superpower/Psycho Boost seem more true to the movie Entei, and the other moves... eh. I like the thought of Reversal Entei the most.
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Hello there. My name is Entei. Nice to meet you ^_^ Now, as much as I appreciate your attempts to make me a better pokemon, I must decline them. You see, I am the only non-uber fire type that can reach 404 HP and get 101 HP Substitutes. I am also one of two non-uber fire pokemon that can learn Calm Mind. Not only that, but I am also the only fire type who can learn Ice Beam to cover my ground weakness. These three factors alone make me an excellent pokemon, since my 101 HP Substitutes can stay up longer if I have Calm Minds under my belt, and any ground pokemon that come in get Ice Beam'd.

Since I am a legendary pokemon, I have a fairly high base stat total. As mentioned earlier, my HP is very high at a base of 115. I also have a decent Defense, at a base of 85. This allows my Substitutes to survive such attacks as a Dusclops Shadow Ball or a Kanga's Body Slam, and all I have to do is put a few EVs into Defense. I also have a monstrous Attack stat at a base of 115. This allows me to successfully use quirky movesets like Return/HP Ghost/Substitute/Fire Blast, or Double-Edge/HP Ghost/Fire Blast/Sleep Talk @Choice Band. My Speed is nothing to scoff at either. In fact, I am tied for the second highest base speed at 100. This allows me to outspeed Pokemon like Sharpedo, Kanga, Jirachi, Celebi, Salamence, Flygon, Moltres, Zapdos, etc, etc, and kill them with a Calm Minded Fire Blast/Ice Beam.
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I like this idea.

Also I am curious to see how well a Crotei would work with Early Bird.

Also Intimidate could make it survive a random eq I suppose or allowed for more defense eving.
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
(21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle

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I agree with twinks on this, entei is a great pokemon with huge subs, calm mind, and stabbed, blazed fire moves along with ice beam. It's attack is always there as an option, but entei is a great special attacker now
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Jul 29 2006, 09:31 AM
This allows me to outspeed Pokemon like Sharpedo, Kanga, Jirachi, Celebi, Salamence, Flygon, Moltres, Zapdos, etc, etc, and kill them with a Calm Minded Fire Blast/Ice Beam.

Most of that is true except Entei ties Flygon, Salamence, Celebi, Jirachi, Zapdos for speed... <_<
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Quiet you, I was trying to make Entei sound better than it is >_>
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lol.

Twinks did kinda change my mind, its just that one more Special move, like Thunderpunch or something could really help it out, it would be like ST Machamp, except special version.
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This allows me to outspeed Pokemon like Sharpedo, Kanga, Jirachi, Celebi, Salamence, Flygon, Moltres, Zapdos, etc, etc, and kill them with a Calm Minded Fire Blast/Ice Beam.

Most of that is true except Entei ties Flygon, Salamence, Celebi, Jirachi, Zapdos for speed... <_<

But many of them don't go for +speed, the only one on that list I would go +speed on is Zappy, and it doesn't do so much to Entei when it has some Calm Minds. <_<
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
(21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle

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I used adamant on mine. <_<
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
(21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle

^the truth

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I use Adamant too. Then again, I also run Salac.
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Yeh, I think most Flygons here are Adamant.

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Well, at least, mine is too.
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It is kinda dumb going Adamant tbh. Jolly lets you outspeed a fuck load of stuff, and it is pointless getting another 20 attack rather than outspeeding all the base 100's/max speed base 90's.
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More like +84 with three SDs. <_<

Adamant helps at ohko'ing some extra stuff I forget.
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
(21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle

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Entei can survive an Adamant unboosted Flygon EQ with some HP (I think it needs at least 415 HP) and KO it with Ice Beam so that's pretty cool I guess...
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Special Flygon, ftw :3

Anyways, Entei doesn't need this, imo.
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