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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 4 2006, 07:11 PM (665 Views) | |
| RiverShock | Aug 4 2006, 07:11 PM Post #1 |
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Yes, this topic is about that pathetic, cool-looking bee known as Beedrill. IMO it COULD be alot better if we improve the moves a bit... So... Move, Beedrill, Sleep Powder Move, Beedrill, Stun Spore Move, Beedrill, Dragon Dance Move, Beedrill, Signal Beam/Megahorn Move, Beedrill, Spike Cannon <Yeah, I know it looks pretty lame, but 20 power with 100% accuracy's extremely good for a multi-attacking move. xD> Move, Beedrill, Revenge Move, Beedrill, Moonlight/Recover |
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| NCcyclop17 | Aug 5 2006, 12:48 AM Post #2 |
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*legend*
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I say yes to all of those including megahorn, or give it huge power without megahorn. |
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| +Jolteon | Aug 5 2006, 06:15 AM Post #3 |
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Army of fgts
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What nc said. |
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(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash (21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle ^the truth
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| +Sandslash | Aug 5 2006, 07:04 AM Post #4 |
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inferior
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speed boost |
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| +Sir Spanky | Aug 5 2006, 07:52 AM Post #5 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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I like them (except Megahorn), but seriously no fucking huge/pure power!!! This thing is faster than Farfetch'd and has 15 more base power, meaning it will have in excess of 830 attack with Choice Band, along with STAB sludge bomb etc. |
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| +Jolteon | Aug 5 2006, 08:11 AM Post #6 |
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Army of fgts
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stab return/hp fly>>>stab sludge bomb/hp bug. Seriously, it sucks when you want to para/burn something and you poison them. -.- |
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(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash (21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle ^the truth
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| +Sir Spanky | Aug 5 2006, 09:36 AM Post #7 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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Normal STAB > Bug/Poison STAB, but an extra 100 attack and an actual speed stat > Farfetch'd |
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| +Crunk Juice | Aug 5 2006, 11:36 AM Post #8 |
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bbm is (super) gay
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not really since im pretty sure bedrill cant 3ko skarm lke fetch'd can it gets walled easier imo |
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| VampireDude34 | Aug 5 2006, 11:46 AM Post #9 |
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Your Friendly Neighbourhood Vampire Dude
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Im all for No HUge Power. It will break him. Im all for those moves tho. |
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| Soannoying | Aug 5 2006, 11:58 AM Post #10 |
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THEhammer
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Beedrill has a rediculously weak total of 385 meaning don't put your bets on making it OU anytime soon with just move modification. Of course I think it should just be given Pure Power and keep its move set pretty much the same. Of course I don't see Pure Power as broken considering some moves are removed. romove: Double-Edge A moveset for Pure Power Beedrill would kind be like this: Sludge Bomb/Hidden Power/Brick Break/ filler offensive move Sludge Bomb its only truely powerful move deals absolutely no damage to steels and hidden power is a lame move to get STAB off of for a PP pokemon. Plus STAB return on max attack farfetch'd is stronger than STAB Sludge Bomb is on max attack Beedrill. Of course a steel switchin could be predicted with brick break but that isn't supereffective to the likes of skarm (which should trash Beedrill) or metagross. Even with hp ground things like wheezing and skarm are gonna block this thing. Oh then there's ground and ghost which are resistant to poisin and aren't weak to the other moves (unless hp is changed from ground in which the meta becomes a problem again) and Forretress is definitely gonna have its way with this thing. |
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| +Crunk Juice | Aug 5 2006, 12:16 PM Post #11 |
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bbm is (super) gay
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sa is right |
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| ATHFfreak | Aug 5 2006, 12:20 PM Post #12 |
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I'm close to being banned!!
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Umm why remove Quick Attack if it gets PP? FF'D still has it and it ahs STAB on it even <_< |
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| Soannoying | Aug 5 2006, 12:59 PM Post #13 |
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THEhammer
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Frak is right. Farfetch'd STAB is greater than Beedrill's higher attack on quick attack so it might as well have quick attack so it doesn't have to have that filler at the end. |
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| +Crunk Juice | Aug 5 2006, 01:03 PM Post #14 |
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bbm is (super) gay
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you are the one who said we shuld take it off flje bgbbb gbfijbgkjkjb</mad> |
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| Soannoying | Aug 5 2006, 01:06 PM Post #15 |
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THEhammer
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....and your point is........ |
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| ATHFfreak | Aug 5 2006, 01:08 PM Post #16 |
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I'm close to being banned!!
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That I am the best |
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| +Sir Spanky | Aug 5 2006, 03:41 PM Post #17 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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Brick Break does 1 less base damage than Return, and Beedrill has an extra 75-100 attack. |
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| +Jolteon | Aug 5 2006, 04:07 PM Post #18 |
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Army of fgts
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No, but it gets walled a lot easier. :/ It's completely done in by weezing, anything not called brick break is walled by skarm, Fetch'ds main attack is Return and doesn't have to worry about skarm, while Beedrill's main attacks are negated by skarm, therefore predicting to use the weaker attack. >_> Also, as sa said, fetch'd return does more, and he has stab qa to make up for speed. |
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(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash (21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle ^the truth
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| Gojithefox | Aug 5 2006, 09:38 PM Post #19 |
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My random disappearances are legendary
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If you don't want Huge/Pure Power, there's always Hustle. |
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| kholdstaire | Aug 10 2006, 04:20 AM Post #20 |
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Delibird
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I loved my Beedrill mods, when I had my server up. -Dragon Dance -Revenge -Quick Attack -Reversal -Extremespeed Oh he was grand. Dragon Dance works well on him. Anyone suggesting Megahorn is retarded, it'd make more sense for him to learn Spikes instead of Megahorn. |
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| Okashi | Aug 10 2006, 06:41 AM Post #21 |
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Edmond Dantés
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Yeah, no megahorn. Beedrill has giant stingers. They're not horns. And Dragon Dance and Reversal seem like cool ideas, imo. Maybe Extremespeed and Quick Attack, too. And Revenge just makes sense to me. |
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| Jaxi | Aug 11 2006, 02:55 PM Post #22 |
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Feebas
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Octillery doesn't have hands, but it learns Focus punch (mods). |
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| +BBM | Aug 11 2006, 04:05 PM Post #23 |
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Octillery can combine his tentacles into a giant fist. Duh. Also, I don't think we should give huge/pure power + a modified movepool to things that suck just to save them. Either up its movepool or give it huge/pure power and nothing else. |
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| ShippouX411X | Aug 11 2006, 04:13 PM Post #24 |
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<.< Noes way!
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._. Beedrill only needs it's movepool fix'd, it has decent stats, just a crappy movepool. |
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| osmbv tiger | Aug 11 2006, 04:27 PM Post #25 |
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Delibird
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In what world does Beedrill have decent stats? |
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| ShippouX411X | Aug 11 2006, 04:33 PM Post #26 |
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<.< Noes way!
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Not great, but decent UU or NU stats *I dunno which one Beedrill is in* But, 80 atk & 75 spd isn't terrible. It's not the best but its not complete crap. |
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| +Crunk Juice | Aug 11 2006, 05:14 PM Post #27 |
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bbm is (super) gay
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it is complete crap |
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| Soannoying | Aug 11 2006, 05:55 PM Post #28 |
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THEhammer
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Hi my name is beedrill and I have some really impressive stats. For instance I have 80 attack and 75 speed which are okay and 65/40/80 defenses -Wow! I really can take a hit!- and my special attack score is outta-this-world in how high it is aka 45. (you understand this right?) |
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| squirtster | Aug 11 2006, 07:03 PM Post #29 |
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Tangela
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^Sarcasm is overpresented, thus making that post unfunny as hell. gg soannoying Shippou, Beedrill does not have decent stats at all ._. Average to below-average speed and defences that won't let it take a hit at all, combined with only a decent attack is meh if you ask me. |
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| +Bugsy23 | Aug 11 2006, 08:11 PM Post #30 |
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The Future
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Swords Dance/Brick Break/Sludge Bomb/Baton Pass Beedrill has been working for me, however it tends to only come in on CB Earthquakes and can usually surprise kill something before it dies (I almost never get the pass in since my opponent always seems to have something faster), but it's fun to use. |
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