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Magneton; and 2 other things too
Topic Started: Sep 13 2006, 04:22 PM (799 Views)
NCcyclop17
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Ok, ever since magneton was nerfed, I haven't seen it being used at all. It is pretty much outclassed by porygon2 and other electrics. Heres my suggestion-

Move- Magneton- Rapid Spin

First, this make complete logical sense, because in anime, video games, etc. The three magnemite that make up magneton are "rapidly spinning." This makes magneton a much better team player without making it more dangerous than it already is. I think magneton would get much more deserved use if it got rapid spin.



Move parasect- Synthesis

I have experimented with parasect recently and it is actually not that bad with intimidate. It just lacks any sort of recovery (besides leech seed and rest is suicide) and syntesis would solve that problem. It makes logical sense because it is a grass type. (please don't say beyond salvation, becasue just because it is bad doesn't mean it shouldn't get a little better)


Move- Huntail- Pain Split

This pokemon has kingler-like potential in my opinion, just without the recovery move which this would help with. Its stats are worse than kingler (except special attack, but it should be attacking.) and the better movepool could compensate for the worse stats.


I guess I'll put some nerfs I thought of too.

Illegal- Bannete- Hypnosis
Illegal- Moltres- Hypnosis

These pokemon have very few counters and hypnosis requires you two have 2 things which can take them. I especially feel moltres should lose it because it is so deadly once set up.

Baton Pass

I don't know exactly what nerf to fix this, but on this server, baton pass teams are extremely broken. The only reason I don't use them is that they are extremely cheap. I know things like taunt sneasel and ingrain shuckle should be removed, but there are a lot of other things that can abuse this so I don't know any specific nerfs besides those.
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Banette should definitely not lose hypnosis because chances are if it misses, it won't have a chance to use it again on the same pokemon.

The accuracy really bites on it.

I also don't agree w/ moltres losing hypnosis becase its not like Moltres use is through the roof. (I mean, I use it, and I've seen other people randomly use it, but not that much)

I do agree about the Baton Pass problems though. I've been having lots of trouble against stuff like Taunt Sneasel or rapidash since Skarm can no longer switch in on them anymore and roar them away.

I also agree with Pain Split on Huntail since its stats are almost all inferior to kingler but it has a better movepool.

I wouldn't mind Rapid Spinning maggy either now that it has its eq weak back.
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agree with all of BBMs points
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bp teams are gay cause of shuckle
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Tell me about it...

Banette is annoying though; maybe Substitute + Hypnosis being illegal can help, but imo it should still have it. (Or it would resort to using T-Wave which really isn't as bad to counter)
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Hypnosis is always gay when I use it =/

It sleeps something I don't want asleep but misses when something I do want asleep switches in :(
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Hypnosis on Gengar should be banned along with Mean Look or Perish Song <______<
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BrownBattleMage
Sep 13 2006, 06:22 PM
Hypnosis is always gay when I use it =/

It sleeps something I don't want asleep but misses when something I do want asleep switches in :(

not as bad as it is on my persian. In two weeks, it hasnt hit once. ONCE
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Sep 13 2006, 04:25 PM
Hypnosis on Gengar should be banned along with Mean Look or Perish Song <______<

i c uve met ziken


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move, baton pass, illegal
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Lou gherig
Sep 13 2006, 05:32 PM
Sir Spanky
Sep 13 2006, 04:25 PM
Hypnosis on Gengar should be banned along with Mean Look or Perish Song <______<

i c uve met ziken
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Ziken got that set from spanks.
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People need to use Haze more. People honestly using Roar Vaporeon makes me sad.

Yeah, I tried to spread the Hazing love, I'll look at that. Still, the next mod update is not planned to be soon you should know.
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taunt sneasel > haze
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If it's BP Sneasel, you just have to wait for it to pass...

Still, I'll work something out at some point.
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You taunt, then bp to-

a. Something that kills the hazer

b. another taunter + bper so they still can't haze

There isn't really any counter to this.
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You can't wait 'til they BP if they taunt the turn before they BP. =/
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
(21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle

^the truth

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Exactly my point. I was thinking we could possibly make a rule that you can only have 2 or less pokemon with the move baton pass. While it sounds stupid, it's not much different than double team/ohko clauses. What would you rather face- A pokemon with +6 in multiple stats or and non-boosted poke with a 30% ohko move?
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Also wanting trace magneton
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Trace Magneton seems kinda cool, but I don't really like Magneton in the first place.
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rofl sup flygon
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The problem with Trace Maggy is that it can't really do anything to Flygon unless it has HP Ice, and then it gets walled horribly by Registeel. This can be partially remedied with perhaps adding Flame Wheel or Aurora Beam to Maggy's movelist, but perhaps it is best if it has a counter after tracing Flygon's levitate.
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use taunt on shuckle

almost all mod teams should carry taunt

edit: I also agree with pain split on huntail, although it does make it a whole lot like kinger. Some mods I thought about for Huntail were Tail Glow (read pokedex info), Moonlight, and Poison Tail.
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Sep 15 2006, 10:56 PM
The problem with Trace Maggy is that it can't really do anything to Flygon unless it has HP Ice, and then it gets walled horribly by Registeel. This can be partially remedied with perhaps adding Flame Wheel or Aurora Beam to Maggy's movelist, but perhaps it is best if it has a counter after tracing Flygon's levitate.

I have not seen Registeel being used for a long time.

It lost Rest(it did didnt it?) and that has made its use decline.
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Rapid Spin Magneton is useful, I've got it in my server and works well.
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Sep 15 2006, 10:02 PM
use taunt on shuckle

almost all mod teams should carry taunt

edit: I also agree with pain split on huntail, although it does make it a whole lot like kinger. Some mods I thought about for Huntail were Tail Glow (read pokedex info), Moonlight, and Poison Tail.

Taunt the Taunt mirite? Shuckle is a Taunt magnet. ._. Especially for Sneasel.
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(21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle

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i use registeel

he still kicks major ass, even without Rest
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Except things like Banette mess it up bad because it can't get around Will-O-Wisp, unless you have a beller, in which case you would have to switch out and get Focused Punched.
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flame wheel magneton seems decent
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Except things like Banette mess it up bad because it can't get around Will-O-Wisp, unless you have a beller, in which case you would have to switch out and get Focused Punched.

that's a good point
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Use metagross to counter bannete.

But yeah trace magneton would wall Flygon.

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Walling Flygon seems a lot better than walling every single physical pokemon without BB/FP.
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