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The future of AAMS
Topic Started: Dec 5 2006, 12:34 AM (1,213 Views)
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Okay, as you guys have probably noticed, it's been dead. Now, the thing is that we need something new. Custom metagame won't work as, frankly, competitor is not exactly coming fast if at all. We need to do something cool. This is a topic for suggestions.

One possibility tiger was throwing around was a mod list rewrite. If we do such a thing, it will be major and more bold than the current list. Namely, redoing movepools to restructure how moves are distributed in general. Stuff like Super Fang can be on more than a few things, and stuff like Hidden Power and Earthquake and Ice Beam can become rare. Basically, a new RSE metagame instead of a perfected RSE metagame. I'm not going to pretend to be completely dedicated, but I think this is a possibility to consider. I'll do my part of it(basically all the work) if people are interested and want to play. If no one wants it, I won't bother.

Also, feel free to post suggestions about how you think the metagame should be. A general structure for it is important before anything is actually done.

Also, IML Season 4 is suspended until further notice. It would flop if I launched it now, and I don't want that to happen. If we get some more life, I'll revive it with perhaps a new structure.

Any other suggestions about the future of AAMS are welcome.
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i really can't think of anything other then advertising >_>
MEBE WE NEED A 64 TREINNERS TOURNEY
edit: yeah i know, my ideas pwn ._.
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Read something more interesting.
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Dec 5 2006, 05:52 AM
i really can't think of anything other then advertising >_>

Advertisement leads to all those noobs and trolls we don't like coming here. It would be some new users that are at least good, but it would hurt more than help.
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I don't know about Ice Beam and stuff going on less Pokemon, but a Mod List rewrite is an amazing idea. By doing that, it is learning to play a whole new generation all over again, which inspires newer players to learn to play. It also helps some of the newer members, or players who arent as good, because they now have a chance to discover things that work really well.

Just a note though, Mod List rewrite also calls for a Pokemon Analysis redo section.
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Dec 5 2006, 08:00 AM
Just a note though, Mod List rewrite also calls for a Pokemon Analysis redo section.

O joy ._.

It will, however, allow newer user to become more involved in the community and decisions by creating the new pages.

Im saying this mostly because i never got a chance to do a page <_<
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I only mentioned that because most of the people who wrote them are gone. Those people being Bugsy, Chen, and Banzo.
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I feel you... I only got to do 5.
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I did the most =o
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Fact 1: Since we've basically agreed that moves like Earthquake and Ice Beam are going to be less common, there has to be a way to deal with inflated defenses. Without EQ and Focus Punch floating around everywhere, Registeel will be a serious bitch to deal with, for example. So...

Widespread Knock Off- No more lefties/CB for you. Since there's less high-power moves of all types, there will be more switching around to take advantage of type resistances and STAB bonuses, and that in turn leads to more free Knock Off chances.

Widespread Pain Split and Super Fang- Again, to get rid of those damn tanks.
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osmbv tiger
Dec 5 2006, 03:06 PM
Fact 1: Since we've basically agreed that moves like Earthquake and Ice Beam are going to be less common, there has to be a way to deal with inflated defenses. Without EQ and Focus Punch floating around everywhere, Registeel will be a serious bitch to deal with, for example. So...

Widespread Knock Off- No more lefties/CB for you. Since there's less high-power moves of all types, there will be more switching around to take advantage of type resistances and STAB bonuses, and that in turn leads to more free Knock Off chances.

Widespread Pain Split and Super Fang- Again, to get rid of those damn tanks.

agreed
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Or maybe, we could just keep the Ice Beam and Earthquake's the same, but make a new Mod List regardless. It will be like learning a new metagame all over again with new Pokemon.
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How about we just go crazy and employ no-repeated-item clause?
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nty. =(

I like Tiger's idea, and I support a re-write.

(I only got one page, I dib'd two though. <_<)

I want to do Raichu this time. ;_;
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
(21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle

^the truth

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In my mind a rewrite stands as a possibility and nothing more. However, I don't see anything else, so...

I'd like to see more tactic based. Stuff like Taunt, Sub, Knock Off, and even moves like Camouflage would be a lot of fun to play with imo. So if there's some way to incorporate these moves into standard play, it'd be something different at least.

BTW, there seem to be some intelligent (moreso than usual) people on GameFAQs. It seems to me that they're sort of drifting between Smogon and Pokerealm at the moment so we could do something with them.

My last suggestion is to make RSE standard a bit bigger on this server. I know it's a mod server 'n all but a lot of randoms with standard teams and end up leaving without a battle or look at the mod list. It doesn't have to be nearly as big as mod of course but it should play a bigger part.

bleh...my thoughts in two minutes. I'd organize it more but I'm in a rush atm >_>
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i would try to come more for this maybe
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I really feel ice and (to a far less extent fire) shouldn't be everywhere. Ice and fire suck defensively and the fact a lot of things can weild Ice without being ice-type doesn't help. The same goes for Fire but to a lesser extent (face it FB on physical things certainly make an impact). Also everything seriously good in the physical sweeping department shouldn't have eq. It's a major letdown to things like aggron. I think now wouldn't be a bad time to be restrictive those moves along with hidden power (every type on almost every poke is insane!) on the current ou sweepers. After that we take down the ou tanks so we don't have a totally tanky metagame. If these steps are implemented I feel we could have a much better broader metagame.

So yeah in short I APPROVE OF THIS.
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Leik, I would re-dl nb if a re-write happened. And I think if it did, Move variety should be taken into consideration first, then balance.
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This is a sample of how some Pokemon could potentially look in a new mod. Please post ideas one way or another about this, and know that this is very early. Absolutely nothing about this is near final.

Raikou
Traits: Limber/Run Away
Growth
Howl
Thunderbolt
Crunch
Bite
Icy Wind
Quick Attack
Tackle
Razor Wind
Body Slam
Swift
Shock Wave
Thundershock
Rest
Odor Sleuth
Roar
Leer
Growl
Torment

Girafarig
Traits: Early Bird/Plus
Baton Pass
Swords Dance
Barrier
Agility
Tail Glow
Amnesia
Substitute
Wish
Psychic
Blaze Kick
Bite
Aurora Beam
Return
Take Down
Shadow Ball
Iron Tail
Confusion
Astonish
Thundershock
Morning Sun
Rest
Assist
Confuse Ray
Will-o-Wisp
Metronome
Snatch
Night Shade
Sleep Talk
Helping Hand
Flash

Kingler
Traits: Intimidate/Shell Armor
Knock Off
Body Slam
Pain Split
Rapid Spin
Meteor Mash
Metal Claw
Mud Shot
Vicegrip
Crabhammer
Cut
Harden
Protect
Rest
Rage
Rock Tomb
Sharpen
Rock Smash
Haze
Torment
Tackle
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please don't do this ._.
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what did you expect ss?

i still think we should discuss more and find something before a rewrite before we turn to this...
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Some of the stuff I like, but raping every Pokemon of their good moves makes stuff boring. Say we rewrite the Mod List like the Server just opened up. Take everything into consideration again, but with different stuff.
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I don't see much more in terms of balance other than raping a ton of stuff severly. I mean what else would we do give amazing traits to almost everything? Hey looks it's (insert crappy pokemon here) with wonderguard/purepower/hugepower. That would certianly be worse. Another option would to accept the reality we don't want the above options and that a lot of stuff just won't make it in the OU mod metagame. Then make a at least half-decent teir list based off of mainly stats and type (the things we can't change). After that mod from there to get the most balanced meta from each pool.
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I'm not liking that, at all.

I like the metagame as is and I really don't think raping half of something's movepool is going to get more people to come in.
work in progress
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After putting more thought into it, I really don't like the idea of a rewrite. It might get some of the people who left back, but not everyone, and the population will still continue to decline. In my opinion, the solution lies in getting more people, and again I have to look at GameFAQs lol.
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Dec 7 2006, 04:56 PM
I have to look at GameFAQs lol.

Oh god no.
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we fear change ;_;

imo we can think of a better way to attract users

(just don't come to me for answers ._.)

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A BBM original. I can't read it either.
:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´:13:58:39:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´: Sandslash: ubers is my best metagame
:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´:13:58:42:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´: Sandslash: cuz i'm good at it
:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´:13:58:46:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´: Sandslash: i'm good at uu
:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´:13:58:50:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´: Sandslash: i defeated skarm
:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´:13:58:52:`ˇ.¸.ˇ´: Sandslash: </rekt>

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Sep 20 2007, 05:32 PM
tails suck vagina

BURNNNN
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aa wtf

anyway im AM THE best ADVETISER and will go advertise now brb
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I actually just left out the moves that suck for the most part, but I see this is becoming quite unpopular. I'm still going to be thinking about it and stuff, but if no one wants it...

I still am worried about how much you fear change though. I like our mod list too; I was just wondering if there was another way that something good could be made. Obviously I'm not just going to drop and delete the old list, just see if maybe this turns out well. Note that most moves dropped were not very good moves. Still, I can see that the enthusiasm is low on the one side, and other people are just totally opposed so...

Advertising will go nowhere. I can see this. Really, that's saying what I should be doing is nothing. I can do that, but I don't think it's going to be very productive. "Something else, I don't know" is worthless advice by the way.
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Dec 7 2006, 06:01 PM
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Dec 7 2006, 04:56 PM
I have to look at GameFAQs lol.

Oh god no.

most of us came from Gamefaqs to begin with BBM

We left because we were fed up with it. There are tons of ppl on the Emerald board who share those feelings. And a lot of them are pretty decent battlers too.
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