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B&W Mod uber pokemon discussion
Topic Started: Oct 4 2011, 07:19 AM (625 Views)
+Jolteon
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In this topic, we discuss which ubers in the current BW metagame we should nerf, which we should keep as uber and what we should buff to ubers. Basically, we're doing this because some ubers are just too difficult to balance without changing drastically (Arceus, Deoxys-A etc.)

Here's the list of ubers in the current BW metagame:

Arceus
Blaziken
Darkrai
Deoxys
Deoxys-A
Dialga
Garchomp
Giratina
Giratina-O
Groudon
Ho-Oh
Kyogre
Lugia
Manaphy
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Reshiram
Shaymin-S
Zekrom

Also, suggest any Pokemon not in this list if you think we should make them uber.
Edited by Jolteon, Oct 4 2011, 08:00 AM.
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
(21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle

^the truth

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Here is my input.

Not uber:

Blaziken
Garchomp
Manaphy
Shaymin-S

Uber:

Arceus
Darkrai
Deoxys
Deoxys-A
Dialga
Giratina
Giratina-O
Groudon
Ho-Oh
Kyogre
Lugia
Mewtwo
Palkia
Rayquaza
Reshiram
Zekrom
Edited by Jolteon, Oct 4 2011, 07:33 AM.
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
(21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle

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THOUGHTS
Pokemon:
keep uber: Arceus, Dialgia, Giratina, Giratina-O, Ho-oh, Lugia, Mewto, Palkia, Rayquaza, Reshiram, Zekrom, Groudon, Kyogre, Deoxys-fr
buff to ubers: Deoxys-e, Deoxys-lg, Kyurem
i really think gf wanted to make kyurem uber but went horribly wrong so we should fix it ^_^

(i still don't know what we should do with deoxys rs and darkrai. we should probably keep them ubers)

Items: Soul Dew
Moves: Stealth Rock (if changing its type wont do anything)
Traits: Shadow Tag, Drought, Drizzle, Moody (unless we decide to give it to miserable pokemon, same idea with shadow tag i guess)

oh and we should definitely do something about slaking (normalize asdf) and regigigigigas

i think that's it
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Kyurem is pretty baller not gonna lie.

I vote to switch its attack and Speed stats therefore making it pretty much the best dragon in the game
work in progress
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if we're gonna alter the stats then yes we should definitely do that lolz
i was thinking giving it a wider physical movepool (focus punch, dynamic punch, earthquake, ice shard etc), earthpower, zap cannon, and no guard rofl

requesting hdt to move this topic to pokemon etc so no one misses the other topic
Edited by Sandslash, Oct 4 2011, 11:25 AM.
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Free Blaziken!

And I agree with what's been said mostly. Allow the 600 BST Pokemon and buff that legendaries that were clearly intended to be uber but turned out to suck by accident.
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Sandslash
Oct 4 2011, 11:21 AM

requesting hdt to move this topic to pokemon etc so no one misses the other topic
Done. I'll move it back once the mod actually starts and this stops being hypothetical.
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hotdogturtle
Oct 4 2011, 11:28 AM
Free Blaziken!

And I agree with what's been said mostly. Allow the 600 BST Pokemon and buff that legendaries that were clearly intended to be uber but turned out to suck by accident.
This seems like a reasonable outline to follow.

Regarding regular Deoxys - I thought that since it's essentially a weaker Deoxys-A, it'd be difficult to balance correctly without drastically altering his stats.
Edited by Jolteon, Oct 4 2011, 11:54 AM.
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
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By 600 BST I was trying to talk about the ones with 100 all around (since Manaphy was being discussed). I forgot that a lot of other ones were also at 600 with different combinations. I can see Deoxys and Darkrai being uber, and if they're not at that level yet then I vote to buff them.
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Yeah I figured out what you meant by 600 BST. :P
(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash
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I concur
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bumb because no one cares about ug's topic huahuahua
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you know i'll keep bumping the other topic
forever

and i meant it
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cresselia
genesect
heatran
landorus
latias (already modded)
latios (already modded)
melotta
shaymin-s

these are base 600 legends that we kinda forgot to discuss, what should we do about them?

i say move cresselia and genesect to ubers and keep the rest
edit: shaymin-s should probably stay in ubers too now that sr is gone
Edited by Sandslash, Oct 16 2011, 10:31 AM.
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Genesect is definitely a cool enough Pokemon that it deserves to be an uber. And it desperately needs a stat boost (base 99 speed, come on).
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speed boost
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Download is better
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Neon Twilight: so gay
Neon Twilight: gayer than bbm and spanky sex gay
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