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| Unofficial BW Mod discussion: OP Abilities; (but not the banned ones) | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 7 2011, 11:45 AM (439 Views) | |
| +Sandslash | Oct 7 2011, 11:45 AM Post #1 |
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so we already agreed we're removing sandstream from ttar and sand rush from exca because they're op, but the thing is, what pokes should have these traits instead? and how many pokes should have them? first the abilities we agreed on banning from standard play Moody Drizzle Drought Shadow Tag what we're considering banning Sand Veil Snow Cloak list of op abilities in my opinion, feel free to add your own: Snow Warning Sandstream Sand Rush Arena Trap Pure Power Huge Power Magic Bounce Speed Boost Wonder Guard what pokemon should have which ability (in my opinion) Snow Warning: only 3 pokes should have this imo, suggesting abomasnow, articuno, and rotom-f Sandstream: again only 3 pokes, suggesting cradily, camerupt and hippowdon Sand Rush: 5 pokes, sandslash, stoutland, kabutops, marowak, and cacturne kabutops to make up for the loss of drizzle+ss, sandslash and stout because they already have it, cacturne because it's badass. marowak because i don't think anything else helps it but i'm still not sure, it might be even stronger than exca rofl Arena Trap: Dugtrio only because bbm scares me Pure Power: 2, medicham and iono Huge Power:2, azumarill and farfetch'd Magic Bounce: 3, espeon, xatu and girafarig Speed Boost: 3, ninjask, blaziken(we're removing baton pass). and rapidash Wonder Guard: shedijna only duh POST YOUR THOUGHTS |
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| +Sir Spanky | Oct 7 2011, 12:12 PM Post #2 |
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Less bananated than Shippou
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Cradilly with Sandstream would be horrible imo. He just would NOT die to any special move. Camerupt with Weather ball is necessary for nostalgia for sure! Speed Boost Pokemon should lose protect/detect imo. I would also consider Blaziken losing Swords Dance. Apart from that I think I agree, but you know I feel all evasion traits (Sand Veil especially) should be banned as well. |
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Neon Twilight: thats really gay Neon Twilight: so gay Neon Twilight: gayer than bbm and spanky sex gay | |
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| +Sandslash | Oct 7 2011, 12:19 PM Post #3 |
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and that's exactly why i suggested cradily, what else can it do other than not die to anything lol blaziken losing swords dance would make it worthless, remember it'll probably die after one flareblitz hit or hjk miss <_< baton pass is what made it uber (sboost ken is allowed in wifi because it doesn't have bp right?) also i don't mind them losing protect and since we banned moody because it raises evasion, i don't see why sand veil shouldn't follow lolz. but we should probably keep snow cloak to help ice pokes added sand veil and snow cloak as 'mebe b4nd' |
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| +Jolteon | Oct 8 2011, 08:38 AM Post #4 |
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Army of fgts
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Ban: Sand Veil Snow Cloak Tangled Feet (not that confuse is common but evasion is gay) Moody Shadow Tag Ubers only: Drought Drizzle Shedinja ONLY: Wonder Guard No Sand Rush Marowak, wtf. >__> As far as abilities that are extremely good (huge power/speed boost) etc. go, I think with careful balancing we could allow them still. Good examples from Adv mod imo are Farfetch'd and Sneasel (gave him a really cool role and made him interesting despite no stat changes). Still not sure what to think of Magic Bounce, it is an extremely good trait but I can't really deny it's strategic merit and thus the depth it brings. I think we should test how it effects our metagame before doing anything with it. |
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(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash (21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle ^the truth
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| +Sandslash | Oct 8 2011, 09:52 AM Post #5 |
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hehe, i agree sand rush wak will be broken, i just can't see any other way to make him good atm (dragon dance) and i don't see why tangled feet should be banned lol, if your opponent is relying on hax then why shouldn't you and i think all abilities should be allowed in uber Edited by Sandslash, Oct 8 2011, 09:54 AM.
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| +Jolteon | Oct 8 2011, 11:04 AM Post #6 |
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Army of fgts
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fair point on tangled feet lol, I think ubers would be better if crap like moody/sand veil weren't there. dd wak seems like a good idea, it needs speed more than attack. |
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(21:51:38) meddle: jolteon beats sandslash (21:51:45) meddle: but both beat shuckle ^the truth
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| +Sandslash | Oct 9 2011, 12:23 AM Post #7 |
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inferior
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also castform should get snow warning and sandstream too! |
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