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Season Format; will be something like this...
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Topic Started: Oct 23 2008, 01:10 AM (234 Views)
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Jarman Magic
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Oct 23 2008, 01:10 AM
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Week 1 Super Coach Challenge Week 2 rnd 1 Week 3 rnd 2 Week 4 rnd 3 Week 5 rnd 4 Week 6 AFLPL Cup Round 1 Week 7 rnd 5 Week 8 rnd 6 Week 9 rnd 7 Week 10 AFLPL Cup Quarter Finals Week 11 rnd 8 Week 12 rnd 9 Week 13 rnd 10 Week 14 AFLPL Cup Semi Finals Week 15 rnd 11 Week 16 rnd 12 Week 17 rnd 13 Week 18 rnd 14 (League Champions decided) Week 19 AFLPL CUP FINAL Week 20 FINALS Week 21 FINALS Week 22 AFLPL GRAND FINAL
Here's what it all means.
There will be 4 opportunities to win silverware for your clubs display cabinet...
AFLPL Super Coach Challenge: In round 1 all 16 coaches can choose any 22 players in their Herald Sun SC positions (7xB,6xC,2xR,7xF) with no salary restrictions and whichever coach gets the highest score (with captains scoring double) is the "AFLPL SC Challenge Champion". It's just a one time per season warm up and records will be recorded. Being in round 1 there will be a lot of uncertainty of how players will go and should be an interesting challenge.
AFLPL Cup: FA cup style knock-out tournament played periodically over the season. It is yet to be decided whether 4 or 8 teams will be seeded. I prefer 4 to give some div 2 teams an outside chance of going further into the comp Round 1 = 8x2 Quarter Finals = 4x2 Semi Finals = 2x2 Cup Final Final winner is "AFLPL Cup Champion"
AFLPL League: 14 rounds of home and away matches played from round 1 to round 18 with the exception of Cup rounds. The 8 teams in each division play each other twice. Whoever finishes top after 14 rounds is "AFL Premier League Champion" and "AFLPL D2 League Champion" Then, based on the league finishing positions...
AFLPL Premiership Finals: This is what the season is all about. The final 3 AFL rounds will see the top 4 teams play off in the finals to see who is the AFLPL Premiers. Semi Finals: 1v2, 3v4 Preliminary Final: 2v3 Grand Final Grand Final winner is "AFLPL Premiers" and "AFLPL D2 Premiers"
Relegation and Promotion The finals will also decide which 2 teams are relegated and promoted between the divisions. The bottom 4 in both divisions will also have a finals series. This will be especially important in div 1 as the 7v8 semi final and the 6v7 prelim will both be relegation games as the loser of these games will find themselves in div 2 the next season. Also, in div 2 the 1v2 semi and 2v3 prelim will guarantee the winners of these games a spot in div 1.
Logic behind the Structure The season is structured so we all get to warm up with the SC challenge giving any coach from either division the 1st trophy and bragging rights for the rest of the season. Then we get into the home and away league matches. The AFLPL Cup matches are played every 3-4 weeks to break up the season. After the Cup Semi Finals there will be a final month of League matches as we come to the business end of the season and teams fight for the League Championship (the 2nd trophy up for grabs) and a place in the finals. Once the League Champions have been decided we then follow this up with the Cup Final for the 3rd trophy. Then finally we finish it all off with the finals where relegations, promotions and most importantly the AFLPL Premiers are decided.
Should make for a very unique and interesting competition
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Deledio2Tambling
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Oct 23 2008, 09:07 AM
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Sounds fantastic JM! Well done on coming up with the season structure!
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Oct 23 2008, 09:24 AM
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Very appealing. I'm really loving this EPL feel about our great AFL game. It's a winner.
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Shabby
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Oct 23 2008, 07:40 PM
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I would prefer if the main season finals weren't in the last 3 weeks of the season, a time where teams' form is affected by things not in their control (blatent tanking, early surgeries, blooding youngsters who aren't really ready). This has the potential to mean the most worthy premiership team doesn't have as good a shot as they should of winning it.
Seeing how that can be avoided logistically, I think it should be. If the GF can be pushed forward to ideally round 20 (round 21 still better than round 22), that would be fantastic. Pushing the cup final to the end and/or moving/scrapping of the SC Challenge is a way you could do it.
Other than that, awesome.
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Deledio2Tambling
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Oct 23 2008, 07:42 PM
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I would prefer if the main season finals weren't in the last 3 weeks of the season, a time where teams' form is affected by things not in their control (blatent tanking, early surgeries, blooding youngsters who aren't really ready). This has the potential to mean the most worthy premiership team doesn't have as good a shot as they should of winning it.
Seeing how that can be avoided logistically, I think it should be. If the GF can be pushed forward to ideally round 20 (round 21 still better than round 22), that would be fantastic. Pushing the cup final to the end and/or moving/scrapping of the SC Challenge is a way you could do it.
Other than that, awesome.
I'd see that as a part of the game though (injuries etc.).
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Shabby
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Oct 23 2008, 07:47 PM
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Legit injuries are one thing. Early surgeries which are only done early only because his team won't be in the finals, as well as youngsters playing undeservedly, teams trying players in different players, changing the standard game time of a player, etc. etc. are all factors which make those final weeks different from the earlier weeks in terms of SC scoring. Shouldn't the finals be as reflective as the regular season in terms of probable SC point scoring as possible?
Not a huge problem, obviously, but if it can be avoided like it can be that can only be a positive.
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Deledio2Tambling
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Oct 23 2008, 07:50 PM
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But again, I just see that as part of the game. Be interested to hear other opinions on this...
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Oct 23 2008, 07:52 PM
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Legit injuries are one thing. Early surgeries which are only done early only because his team won't be in the finals, as well as youngsters playing undeservedly, teams trying players in different players, changing the standard game time of a player, etc. etc. are all factors which make those final weeks different from the earlier weeks in terms of SC scoring. Shouldn't the finals be as reflective as the regular season in terms of probable SC point scoring as possible?
Not a huge problem, obviously, but if it can be avoided like it can be that can only be a positive.
I originally suggested having the cup final in the final week but that only leaves 2 teams involved whereas having the grand finals means 8 teams are involved. Also we want to make the premiership the most prestigious trophy thus why we decided to have it in the final week. also there shouldn be too much tanking going on in the next few years due to the GC and western sydney and their draft concessions.
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Shabby
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Oct 23 2008, 08:04 PM
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Legit injuries are one thing. Early surgeries which are only done early only because his team won't be in the finals, as well as youngsters playing undeservedly, teams trying players in different players, changing the standard game time of a player, etc. etc. are all factors which make those final weeks different from the earlier weeks in terms of SC scoring. Shouldn't the finals be as reflective as the regular season in terms of probable SC point scoring as possible?
Not a huge problem, obviously, but if it can be avoided like it can be that can only be a positive.
I originally suggested having the cup final in the final week but that only leaves 2 teams involved whereas having the grand finals means 8 teams are involved. Also we want to make the premiership the most prestigious trophy thus why we decided to have it in the final week. also there shouldn be too much tanking going on in the next few years due to the GC and western sydney and their draft concessions.
I highly, highly doubt GC and Western Sydney coming in will stop clubs tanking. It will have 0 effect on clubs putting players in for early surgeries, the purpose of that is to have them ready for a full-preseason, blooding young talent and not pointlessly risking injuries to established players, rather than tanking for draft position.
Being the most prestigious competition (agreed, obviously) should mean it should be played at the best possible time. Ending with it probably makes sense though.
Perhaps the round 1 comp can be scrapped with the season starting from round 1, and perhaps replace the round 1 comp with a pre-season style comp?
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Oct 23 2008, 08:07 PM
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personally i dont agree. i think you just have totake whatever is give and i do't think it will be that big a problem. eg afl2008 has run vey well an it hasn't been an issue at all. however i'd like to hear what other coaches say.
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Jarman Magic
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Oct 23 2008, 08:11 PM
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Legit injuries are one thing. Early surgeries which are only done early only because his team won't be in the finals, as well as youngsters playing undeservedly, teams trying players in different players, changing the standard game time of a player, etc. etc. are all factors which make those final weeks different from the earlier weeks in terms of SC scoring. Shouldn't the finals be as reflective as the regular season in terms of probable SC point scoring as possible?
Not a huge problem, obviously, but if it can be avoided like it can be that can only be a positive.
You make a great point.
But as was already mentioned we rate the premiership as the most important comp in this game. The Grand Final should be the showcase match.
Upsets will happen as we saw this year with the Hawks beating Geelong. Don't think for a second that I'm under-rating the Hawks as they had a great season but Geelong were standouts. The 1999 Prelim is another example of a team that had been dominating for months lost in an upset.
The possibility of teams resting players or ending their seasons early to get surgery done just means that no-one is a certain winner.
If the finalists have injury problems they can trade to make sure they're staying at full strength. We can also allow extra emergencies if required.
The other possibility is to get straight into the league matches from AFL rd 1 and move the SC Challenge to the end of the season as a fun way to finish the season. This would move the GF to rd 21 but I'd still rather keep it like it was
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Shabby
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Oct 23 2008, 08:13 PM
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- Oct 23 2008, 08:07 PM
personally i dont agree. i think you just have totake whatever is give and i do't think it will be that big a problem. eg afl2008 has run vey well an it hasn't been an issue at all. however i'd like to hear what other coaches say.
Not a big problem either way. Sure it wasn't a problem in afl2008, but would it have been better having the GF earlier? Perhaps JM and RLL can tell us how it effected there sides late in the season so we can gauge it better.
Anyways, had my say, interested to see what people think too.
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Oct 23 2008, 08:14 PM
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- Jarman Magic
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Legit injuries are one thing. Early surgeries which are only done early only because his team won't be in the finals, as well as youngsters playing undeservedly, teams trying players in different players, changing the standard game time of a player, etc. etc. are all factors which make those final weeks different from the earlier weeks in terms of SC scoring. Shouldn't the finals be as reflective as the regular season in terms of probable SC point scoring as possible?
Not a huge problem, obviously, but if it can be avoided like it can be that can only be a positive.
You make a great point. But as was already mentioned we rate the premiership as the most important comp in this game. The Grand Final should be the showcase match. Upsets will happen as we saw this year with the Hawks beating Geelong. Don't think for a second that I'm under-rating the Hawks as they had a great season but Geelong were standouts. The 1999 Prelim is another example of a team that had been dominating for months lost in an upset. The possibility of teams resting players or ending their seasons early to get surgery done just means that no-one is a certain winner. If the finalists have injury problems they can trade to make sure they're staying at full strength. We can also allow extra emergencies if required. The other possibility is to get straight into the league matches from AFL rd 1 and move the SC Challenge to the end of the season as a fun way to finish the season. This would move the GF to rd 21 but I'd still rather keep it like it was
Agree with all that.
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Jarman Magic
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Oct 23 2008, 08:21 PM
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personally i dont agree. i think you just have totake whatever is give and i do't think it will be that big a problem. eg afl2008 has run vey well an it hasn't been an issue at all. however i'd like to hear what other coaches say.
Not a big problem either way. Sure it wasn't a problem in afl2008, but would it have been better having the GF earlier? Perhaps JM and RLL can tell us how it effected there sides late in the season so we can gauge it better. Anyways, had my say, interested to see what people think too.
Difficult to say, I can't remember because I had so many who'd been out for weeks. I remember Hille and 1-2 others missed the GF after playing in the prelim I think. Even with my depth I was forced to picking H.Hocking and A.Browne in my team We both had players missing.
RLL chose to trade to cover those areas with some last minute trades whereas I was more interested in keeping my list together as I liked almost every single player and was looking more towards 2009 and on rather than 2008 with the list I had.
I felt that I was a bit unlucky with my injuries but that's just a part of the game.
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