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Playing players in positions
Topic Started: Oct 27 2008, 04:57 PM (1,296 Views)
Perth Swans
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Does anyone think Paul Medhurst could play FF?
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i wouldn't have thought so tbh. what do other coaches think?
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Personally I'd say no, but am happy to throw it open to other opinions. I just don't feel he plays that full-forward position anymore like he was at Freo.
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It was one of the main reasons I drafted him though.
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Perth Swans
Oct 28 2008, 04:37 PM
It was one of the main reasons I drafted him though.

Can someone else post their opinions please?

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Aisake O'hAiplin
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No.
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Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 03:48 PM
No.

Thanks :rolleyes:
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Johnson is definantly a capable full back.

Watch the game where he played one out on Barry Hall in that game Pavlich choked in late in the season.
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Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 04:08 PM
Johnson is definantly a capable full back.

Watch the game where he played one out on Barry Hall in that game Pavlich choked in late in the season.

Hall kicked 4 though IIRC.
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Johnson is as much a full back as Sam Fisher is.
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Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 04:10 PM
Johnson is as much a full back as Sam Fisher is.

Fisher isn't a full-back, so that means Johnson isn't.
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Perth Swans
Oct 28 2008, 04:09 PM
Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 04:08 PM
Johnson is definantly a capable full back.

Watch the game where he played one out on Barry Hall in that game Pavlich choked in late in the season.

Hall kicked 4 though IIRC.

doesn't mater if he played well there, the fact is he played there. Johnson has played FB on quite a few occasions. Can't see the big fuss about him.
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Oct 28 2008, 04:18 PM
Perth Swans
Oct 28 2008, 04:09 PM
Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 04:08 PM
Johnson is definantly a capable full back.

Watch the game where he played one out on Barry Hall in that game Pavlich choked in late in the season.

Hall kicked 4 though IIRC.

doesn't mater if he played well there, the fact is he played there. Johnson has played FB on quite a few occasions. Can't see the big fuss about him.

Well, Medhurst played FF on a few occasions.
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refer to this thread

http://z13.invisionfree.com/AFL_Premier_Le...owtopic=62&st=0

and in particular stoneys post. It pretty much sums up why Johnson at FB is not such a big deal but medhurst at FF is something most coaches will protest
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Perth Swans
Oct 28 2008, 05:12 PM
Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 04:10 PM
Johnson is as much a full back as Sam Fisher is.

Fisher isn't a full-back, so that means Johnson isn't.

Fisher is pretty clear cut FB mate.

Just because he didn't play there this year, with Hudghton playing a full season, doesn't mean he can't.

To me there are 3 basic kind of taller defenders.

* Clear cut KPP who play there all the time (Scarlett, Rutten).
* Players who are capable and have played KP and are clear KP size (Fisher, Johnson).
* Players who are capable and have played KP but aren't clear KP size (Mackie, Milburn).

First 2 should be allowed, the 3rd shouldn't be.
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Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 04:35 PM
Perth Swans
Oct 28 2008, 05:12 PM
Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 04:10 PM
Johnson is as much a full back as Sam Fisher is.

Fisher isn't a full-back, so that means Johnson isn't.

Fisher is pretty clear cut FB mate.

Just because he didn't play there this year, with Hudghton playing a full season, doesn't mean he can't.

To me there are 3 basic kind of taller defenders.

* Clear cut KPP who play there all the time (Scarlett, Rutten).
* Players who are capable and have played KP and are clear KP size (Fisher, Johnson).
* Players who are capable and have played KP but aren't clear KP size (Mackie, Milburn).

First 2 should be allowed, the 3rd shouldn't be.

Excellent post. Medhurst is a third tall... rocca, cloke, rusling and dawes are kp fwds, medhurst is a medium sized fwd, davis didak are the smalls.

As stated earlier, u should've enquired b4 u drafted him. Im not even an admin and I told everyone to enquire about suspect players before drafting them for certain positions which may cause issues... looks like u have a good forward pocket though!
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Stoney
Oct 28 2008, 05:19 PM
Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 04:35 PM
Perth Swans
Oct 28 2008, 05:12 PM
Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 04:10 PM
Johnson is as much a full back as Sam Fisher is.

Fisher isn't a full-back, so that means Johnson isn't.

Fisher is pretty clear cut FB mate.

Just because he didn't play there this year, with Hudghton playing a full season, doesn't mean he can't.

To me there are 3 basic kind of taller defenders.

* Clear cut KPP who play there all the time (Scarlett, Rutten).
* Players who are capable and have played KP and are clear KP size (Fisher, Johnson).
* Players who are capable and have played KP but aren't clear KP size (Mackie, Milburn).

First 2 should be allowed, the 3rd shouldn't be.

Excellent post. Medhurst is a third tall... rocca, cloke, rusling and dawes are kp fwds, medhurst is a medium sized fwd, davis didak are the smalls.

As stated earlier, u should've enquired b4 u drafted him. Im not even an admin and I told everyone to enquire about suspect players before drafting them for certain positions which may cause issues... looks like u have a good forward pocket though!

I like the way Shabby has summed things up here.

Mackie and Medhurst seem to fit into the 3rd level of eligibility.

Last season they were both named in kpp positions on numerous occasions.

The way I see players like this is that they cannot be used as your first options as kpps. They are only a last resort and every effort should be made to have better options available if possible. Naming them above a legitimate option is not allowed and if you don't have a more legitimate option you should make every effort to trade one in.

However, if these players (or any other) are named in kpp positions for their AFL clubs on any given week you should have every right to also name them in that position on that week without dispute.
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Oct 28 2008, 06:31 PM
However, if these players (or any other) are named in kpp positions for their AFL clubs on any given week you should have every right to also name them in that position on that week without dispute.

Don't really agree. If an AFL team has a shortage of KPP's on any week, then if this rule was in a team in this game would benefit for no reason. Colin Sylvia is one example, named as a KP forward most weeks when Melbourne didn't have anyone else. I also remember a week North named Scott McMahon at CHF, which is one of many examples of non-KP being named as a KP, which shows AFL teams really couldn't care less what their 18 looks like on a Thursday night and that its not a great resource to use as teams don't start like they are named like they do in other sports.
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Shabby
Oct 28 2008, 07:57 PM
Jarman Magic
Oct 28 2008, 06:31 PM
However, if these players (or any other) are named in kpp positions for their AFL clubs on any given week you should have every right to also name them in that position on that week without dispute.

Don't really agree. If an AFL team has a shortage of KPP's on any week, then if this rule was in a team in this game would benefit for no reason. Colin Sylvia is one example, named as a KP forward most weeks when Melbourne didn't have anyone else. I also remember a week North named Scott McMahon at CHF, which is one of many examples of non-KP being named as a KP, which shows AFL teams really couldn't care less what their 18 looks like on a Thursday night and that its not a great resource to use as teams don't start like they are named like they do in other sports.

Hmmm I can see your point Shabby, and I'd love for people to just be logical about their player positions, but I just think its going to be subjective, so a rule such as JM's may work.

For example, if we decide that Hodge and Mackie aren't classified as Key Defenders, they can never be played there, UNLESS they are named in key positions in that corresponding week in the AFL.

Thoughts?
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Is Daniel Motlop eligible to play as a KF?
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