| Kate Austen's Redemption? | |
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| Topic Started: Jan 16 2012, 02:42 PM (80 Views) | |
| Kate | Jan 16 2012, 02:42 PM Post #1 |
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And so we begin. I think it's fitting that I'll be playing Kate. Out of four games here, two crappy games on "SM," and two games in an org, the game I played as Kate is on the record as being my poorest showing ever. It's the only time I didn't make the jury or the merge and the only time I didn't place at least 7th. I placed 4th in both Belize and Siberia and 5th in both org games. I don't remember what I placed in the two SM games... but it was somewhere around 6 or 7. (I'd prefer to forget those God awful games). Out of the four games I played here, my crowning achievement would be what I did as Hunter. Considering both the sheer amount of people involved and the level of control I was able to achieve. Playing him would have been fun, but at the same time, I already accomplished a lot with him, and even more importantly, he'd have a HUGE target on his back. I'd rather be viewed as Kate. One of my proudest moments was placing 4th as Alex in Belize. It was my first game post "SM" and I really enjoyed being able to work my way up the alliance structure from the bottom by playing under the radar while still being aggressive. I feel like I learned a lot that game... not just after the fact, but as the game progressed; so I was able to use my experience FROM the game to advance IN the game. But, again, by the end, I was seen as a power player. I'd rather that be forgotten. More than anything though, I will enjoy playing Kate because I now actually have a chance to DO something with her... a chance for redemption. I will say, it's strange playing a female when everyone already knows you are male. That could make things quite different than the first go around as her. Of course, that presents bigger problems than gender confusion... people knowing who I am could be bad. To Djon and Allie, I will always be Jim (or Alex in the case of Allie). These are two players that I will very much keep an eye on as possible allies in this game. I enjoyed working with both of them and I especially think Allie very much WANTS to work with me again. She has been talking about it ever since stabbing me in the back as Pam in the Office. In Newman's eyes, we are in the same boat... two very aggressive players that might become the topic of discussion as early targets based on their histories. He reckons there are five power players... me, himself, Jack, Sawyer, and JR. He thinks we should put paranoia aside and protect each other past the initial stage of people wanting to take us out. I sort of agree with that. I do think it's in my best interest to work with any other power players that are willing... so as not to become a target BY them. At the same time, I'm not sure where they all stand, and I feel he might be leaving people out of that equation. Randy, for one, is already just as aggressive as I remember him. He's already talking to people about building alliances similar to the one he had going in Belize... the one that turned into a train wreck. He was quite the power player in Belize, and I'm not sure if he remembers the cause that led to his demise... my immunity idol. I don't trust Randy now anymore than I did then, and if Newman doesn't think Randy is going to at least TRY to be a power player, he is mistaken. I also think Newman underestimates Djon. As Oscar, Djon provided me with the exact kind of player I needed to bounce ideas off of... kind of like a Dave or an Ace or a Leslie. I know Djon understands the game, and even if he is not as aggressive as the other "power players," I wouldn't call him a "floater," as Newman has termed all the other players. Allie would also be someone I wouldn't consider a "floater," though she often makes moves that benefit others more. She knows what she is doing and can be a very powerful social tool for both herself and whoever she ends up aligning with. Again, I'd love to work with both Djon AND Allie and I really do intend on working with Newman, because if the two of us put our heads together I think we can be a very powerful force. I also think Newman has a pretty decent history of playing somewhat loyally and he comes across as the type that likes to take big competition at least TOWARD the end... kind of as a respect thing and kind of as a "wanting to beat the best" thing. I don't know much about Sawyer. I'd like to trust him. He seems like someone I could mabye trust, and I think Newman wants to work with him. BUT, I've also been told he's close to Melissa in real life, which worries me for a couple reasons. 1. Melissa is communicating with me far less than I thought she would. 2. Melissa has a history of being just as devious as me. 3. Melissa tends to want to eliminate competing power players, not work with them. 4. Melissa seems especially paranoid that her reputation is going to hurt her, so I wouldn't be surprised if she threw us under the bus to get the attention off of herself. It might actually be her best move. Now, Newman thinks we can keep a handle on what is in her head VIA Sawyer. We'll see how that plays out, but in an open ID game, I have first hand experience of how difficult it is to go against people you are close to in real life. This makes me think Saywer and Jack could become a force to be reckoned with themselves. Aside from these developments, I'm also interested in maybe working with Matt (a.k.a. Dwight). So far, we've always ended up on opposing sides. But he seems like a cool guy that I could really get along with, and he already seems to have some interest in working together. Nobody would suspect that at ALL. The players that bother me the most are Randy, for the reasons I've already stated, Big Mike, because he's coming off as somewhat shady and desperate for alliances, Helen, because she is still in Belize mode, Crystal, because she's already told Newman I'm "dangerous" and could easily want revenge from Siberia, and basically all the other Siberia people because, well, of Siberia. LOL. My reputation could easily hurt me. This time around, people might actually have a REASON to get rid of Kate. I'm really anxious to see how the tribes end up. |
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| BROBST | Jan 16 2012, 02:52 PM Post #2 |
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Sooooooooo . . . On a scale of 1 to 10, how confident are you that you can maneuver yourself to the end of this game? |
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| Kate | Jan 16 2012, 03:11 PM Post #3 |
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Five. I'm probably the least confident this time because of the open ID thing. I usually play like a ninja. Three steps. 1. Espionage - This involves mostly diplomacy for information gathering. Building alliances, etc. 2. Sabotage - This is traditionally my strong point. It's the way I use that information to pit people against each other so that I have better lines of communication than everyone else. This was my biggest trick in both Belize AND Siberia. I often compare myself to a Stealth Bomber. People don't see me coming until it is too late. Which leads me to step three... 3. Assassination - Striking at the right time with the fatal blow. It's really a balancing act. But if I have steps one and two in good order, step three becomes easier... like the way I used the idol to take out Randy, or the way I got everyone to vote out Coach then flipped to get people to vote out Jamie, etc. Once I have the information I need from the first step and control information flow and lines of communication from step two, step three becomes easy. In this game, steps one and two become harder because my reputation makes it harder for people to trust me. If steps one and two are harder, step three becomes even MORE difficult. In order to pull off my usual strategy, I need the cover of an alias. I no longer have that cover. I can not play this game as a ninja. Now, my first priority is simply to survive!! |
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| BROBST | Jan 16 2012, 04:01 PM Post #4 |
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Espionage! Sabotage! Assassination! OH MY! Love itP.S. You used your idol in Belize to get rid of "Sarah." Randy went the round after that. I'm a stickler for details, he he. |
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| Kate | Jan 16 2012, 10:21 PM Post #5 |
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Oooo... you are right. LOL. I remember I preferred Randy. Did he have immunity? I remember I couldn't WAIT to get rid of Randy. Sarah too, but Randy was the one I was salivating to get rid of. LOL. I'll never forget that whole thing where Ryan and Helen wanted to maybe stick with the alliance with them after the merge... which I thought was ridiculous. They turned on Ryan when he insisted we vote off someone from their tribe first. We had a tie and Allie flipped in the re-vote. I remember going straight to Shawna after that to vote with my alliance with Leslie, Tyson, and Brandon. I forget who the other person was. I just remember Shawna. At some point, she just stopped logging in though. I had like two showmances going on at once!! |
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| BROBST | Jan 16 2012, 10:28 PM Post #6 |
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I had to go look that up on the Belize archived board, but yeah, Randy had immunity that night which is why "Sarah" ended up being the target. |
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| Kate | Jan 16 2012, 10:38 PM Post #7 |
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Yeah, I remember that now. It was fun getting everyone to think Tyson had had the idol all along. |
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| Kate | Jan 17 2012, 12:23 AM Post #8 |
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Update: Tuesday, 1/17/12, 1:17 am So Pam is now the second person to suspect that there is a bond forming between Ryan, Helen, and Randy. Newman has had similar suspicions and I have thought this was naturally the case all along. It's the old Belize alliance, so it just makes sense. Here's the thing, Pam has done what Pam does best. She made a promise she shouldn't have made... to Ryan. She told him she will never vote him out. Good grief! Already! Ok, so we know how she gets around these things... force a tie, cast a stray vote, etc. It probably won't be a problem. At the same time, that puts her in tight with Ryan AND... she was also in Belize. But hold the phone, so was I. So, if this "bond" is really taking place, I might be able to use it. Helen and I have been chatting it up. She said she thinks we are going to be strong allies. Ok, so it's Helen. She likes to have her options, so who knows how many people she has said this too, BUT, I'm good at making connections and Helen is one of the few that doesn't necessarily know what I'm capable of. So maybe I use this to my advantage. If both the "power players" AND the old Belize alliance both come into existence... neither one of these things are tangible entities yet... and they both want to work with me and Allie, that might put me back into a position where I can run some ninja hijinx. Just a thought for now. Looking for openings. |
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| BROBST | Jan 17 2012, 12:33 AM Post #9 |
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I always love your Confessional updates
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| Kate | Jan 18 2012, 04:37 PM Post #10 |
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Update: 1/18/12 5:30 pm I heard from Jack today. She is worried because Jill doesn't seem to be talking to her, which leads her to believe that Jill has no intention of working with her. If there's one thing I learned about Jill in Siberia, it's that this is precisely the case. Jill only talks to the people she feels comfortable working with. And Jill is talking to me. So I feel like that is a plus. Jill informed me that the reason she had me voted out of LOST was because she thought I WAS Melissa. Once again, she doesn't feel comfortable with Melissa hanging around the game. She thinks Melissa is dangerous. So, no, she is not talking to Melissa; and, yes, it's because she has no intentions of working with her. Perfect. Also, Big Mike has confirmed that he is thinking of having the Belize people stick together, including me and Pam. Presumably, this would include Helen and maybe Randy, Andy, and Crystal. While I have no intention of playing with Randy or Crystal for long, I have no problem letting Mike think I'm with him and his crew, and I actually would like to keep Helen around for a while. I shot Pam a message about this. IF Pam really does want to work with me, we are in the perfect spot... because two seperate groups want to work with us... the group that involves Newman and Sawyer (and at least temporarily JR and Jack), and the group comprised of Belize players. I am also talking to Newman about how tribes don't matter as much in this game as we are used to. Having experience with open-ID games, the main thing I've learned is the most powerful alliances can be cross-tribe ones, since you are not seperated from the other tribe during the tribal phase. For instance, I was not on your tribe in SM, and yet we had a powerful alliance. "Paulina plan" anybody? In SM allstars, I basically stole Neil's allianec from right under him. So yeah, it's important to have numbers on your tribe in order to survive until the merge, BUT you can have other plans for after the merge takes place. That said, Newman has brought it to my attention that it might actually be better to blindside an active player on the first vote, rather than just target an inactive. And I agree with him, depending on the situation. For now we have to wait and see. BUT, we both want to target Bobby Jon and Randy fairly early. I don't want "Coach" anywhere near me in this game!! |
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| Kate | Jan 18 2012, 11:46 PM Post #11 |
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Update: 1/19/12 12:32 am Lindsey has informed me that she trusts Djon and that he has told her he really trusts me. She actually says we are the only two people she is really "feeling" right now, as everyone else is holding their cards too close to the vest. Well, so am I, and I'm actually getting some in-depth conversations in with Pam and Newman, as well as a lot of really chit chatty bonding type stuff with Helen. Looks like my espionage step is actually starting to take off. Anyway, if she is being honest with me, and if Djon is being honest with her, here are two more people that might be interested in working with me. My undoing might actually be a schoolyard pick, becuase if everyone thinks I want to work with them but I pick someone else, that doesn't look too good. I have to figure a way around that, or hope to pick near the end. But here's how it stands. The following groups/individuals have expressed interest in working with me... T-Bird/Sawyer/Pam (possibly with Jack and JR) Ryan/Helen/Randy/Pam (possibly with Crystal and/or Andy) Dwight Lindsey/Ibrehem Newman also sees working with Lindsey and Ibrehem as a possibility. Here's a list of everybody in the order I trust them, from most to least... T-Bird/Pam (tied) Djon/Lindsey (tied) Helen (strangely enough) Dwight Jill (also strangely enough) I trust the people above to some degree. I don't really trust anyone else, but I'll still order them... Sawyer (only because Newman trusts him) Andy Jack (I mean it's Melissa) Robb (don't know enough about him) Ryan (his expressed interest isn't enough to overcome his shady behavior) Crystal (Jeff has already made comments about me being dangerous) Randy (He's been the shadiest, and most sloppily aggressive so far, and he has a track record) Bobby Jon (Coach... enough said) Katie doesn't count because it's like she doesn't exist. |
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| Kate | Jan 19 2012, 01:32 AM Post #12 |
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Update: 1/19/12 2:30 am Aaaaaand just like that, Helen has bumped herself way up on my list of people I want to work with. Our conversations have gone way in depth. They are longer even than the conversations I've had with Newman, and they are definitely not chit chatty anymore. I could see Helen as being a very productive ally for me. She understands the game but has less contacts than anyone else. A lot of people are already underestimating her, but she means business... and the fact that I'm NOT underestimating her could work wonders for our rapport. The trick is to keep this a secret from everyone else. |
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| BROBST | Jan 19 2012, 02:07 AM Post #13 |
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How do you think Helen perceives this game and how do you think others perceive her? Since she's only played once and it was almost 3 years ago, are others not wanting to work with her cause she's more of an "unknown" factor? Or is she being thought of as a valuable swing vote? |
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| Kate | Jan 19 2012, 02:18 AM Post #14 |
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I don't think people know what to make of her. I think she is underestimated. For instance, Newman did not list her in his list of "power players," but from what I remember, in Belize, she was a force to be reckoned with before circumstances outside of the game forced her to basically withdraw. But unless he REALLY studied that game, he wouldn't know that. Her name hardly ever comes up as someone that is going to factor into anything, but she is going to factor into everything... because she is here to play. I think that is a marvelously amazing advantage for her. She is under the radar by default... without even trying. I talk about being like a stealth bomber... she IS that stealth bomber without even having to turn herself into it. If I can get her on my side, we can take this game by storm. I hardly think she is going to be a target. She is active and doesn't come off as a threat. I also don't know that a whole lot of people are going to actively seek her out as an ally. She told me it seems like most people are just feeling her out... but that is really what they are doing with everyone. I think the game has evolved. There is a meta-game going on here that she has no experience in. The Brobst games are not the same as Belize was. People are wise to the mechanics of it now. Helen is a notch above a newbie, but not quite on the same level as everyone, only because she doesn't know how the game has progressed. She also doesn't know anybody. But she will learn quickly. She's smart. I can tell by the way she responds to me that she is optimistically guarded. She doesn't want to give me too much information, but she clearly wants to strategize. I like that. I see a lot of me in her. I have to remember not to give her TOO much information myself... because she is smart enough to play me if she wanted to. But for now, I think she trusts me, and so I doubt she'll breech that trust... YET. So, Pam, T-Bird, and Helen... they are my favorites to play with... followed by Ibrehem and Dwight, then maybe Jill. I want to say Lindsey, but I've been reminded of her track record to freak out. |
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