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Topic Started: Feb 21 2012, 10:27 PM (127 Views)
Robb
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I'm not afraid to say I don't currently have control of this game.

I need to think it out.
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So, lay out how this last round went down and how it affects where you are now.
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I would have felt more in control if the idol was flushed. I wasn't thrilled with the Lindsey vote but the hard thing about that was Deb has been so scattered since the beginning, it was hard to tell what was really happening - for instance, which I really don't think was on purpose, but when the site would "crash" on her sooo close to the vote? Nerve wracking and seemed very convenient timing! But she did pull through both times, so am pretty sure it really wasn't working for her. Just pretty crazy.

But the idol - now I know Matt P has it. I think it went from Helen to Adam to him, and he must have promised to save Adam.

I think his ego took over last night... and may not stop til the end game. Thats right you bastard, I'm gonna have to fuck up your game.

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Just sent this on FB to Juli and Matt M.

Its my Hail Mary pass, because if I don't do something here, and I don't out here, I wouldn't win anyway.

I'll report back to tell how its received.


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To my Colorado brother and sister...

I think we're fucked if we don't make a move. I briefly chatted this idea over with Juli, but it had just popped in my brain and I hadn't fully formed it.

Matt P is taking advantage of us to further his game. We need to do the same.

This is my plan. Guys, its time to target ME.

Juli, your involvement depends on how much you can fake. If you think you can lie to them, then you should go for it. If not, it may just be M-Mc.

I think you're the next target anyway Mcclel, so its a bit of a hail mary for all of us.

Basically, I want you to "turn" on me. Go to Adam and Helen and say - "listen, I know Matt P is with you. I HAVE to be ok with it because I want to last in this game longer and I know I'm the next target. To save my skin, I think its time to cut Robb loose. We have a solid voting block against him, with or without Matt P."

My gut tells me Matt P will go along with it, but throw his vote away. He doesn't want to vote for me, but he is getting too close to tasting victory.

Meanwhile, we vote Adam. The votes most likely will break down to this:

2 votes Robb
1 vote random person from Matt. Maybe a selfy.
3 votes Adam (us 3).

It doesn't ruin our pact with Matt or screw him. Just screws his plans. And we get Adam out, because if any of us go against Adam in F2, he absolutely deserves to win.

Thoughts?
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MATT M:
Okay...talked to Helen. Gave her the idea...she said that she's thinking about it. Hopefully, I gave her enough reason and incentive to vote that way. But...she did tell me that she is secretly working with someone from us, and has given the HII someone. I specifically asked if she was talking about Sawyer, and she didn't say anything. She did give me info on the HII which I think is actually true. She said that the HII is only good until F5. She also said that the person with the idol has to used it when they vote...like, when they vote in their voting booth, they have to say that they are using the idol at the same time that they cast their vote.
Do you think that Helen may have given her idol to matt?


SETH:
I do think she did. I think Adam had it temporarily, and now Matt does (I think in exchange for guaranteeing Lindsay out last vote).

I know I'm putting myself at a ton of risk, but I don't feel like being strung along and voted our at 4th or 3rd.

Juli said she would be for it but we have to see if she wants to "be in the dark" or with you. She can decide later.

And yea, I think you have it all correct. I see no reason why they wouldn't want to vote for me. I just hope my gut is correct that with a (pretend) vote of you, Helen and Adam against me, he could feel safe to throw away his vote like he has been doing.

If Matt P thinks you're "turning" on me and tries to tell me, I am "totally not going to believe it" and go after Adam. But I think it has to be subtle for a while. Like you are willing to turn on me but you want in on F4.

It could be a total fuck up move on myself, but I think its worth trying and... well, at least fun
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I think that helen is thinking about my offer...and maybe sharing it with adam. I might shoot adam a message later depending on what helen comes back to me with.
I'm not sure that I want to tell matt about this in case he is fully voting with them. Helen does not trust juli, but I made it seem like we may not need her to vote with us to get you out...so it might be smart for juli to go to them and say that she's voting for you as well. Might help their decision making process.
However, it kinda doesn't matter who they vote for unless Matt p. is planning on voting with them for me, if the vote goes that way. I do not think that adam has the idol, and think that the plan is good in that respect.
If they are working with matt...then they might ask him about it. In that case, it might get back to you or me....you to tell you, or me to ask if I am really doing it. I'm assuming that I should just say yes if he asks me, right?

about an hour agoSeth Martel
Helen messaged Juli that she thinks it might be a good idea... so... guess the seed started to take... maybe Juli should resist a little
yea... I was wondering what to say if Matt P asks you. Just say its time to cut your ties with me, I'm a sinking ship and Juli is soon after.

about an hour agoMatt Mccleland
So you think that I should admit to him that I am trying to target you, and that I am siding with Kate and Helen? If he is working with them, he will go back and tell them that.
I did make some promises to helen that are hard to resist and say no to...anything to get the job done

9 minutes agoSeth Martel
Helen told Juli that Kate thinks we are scrambling. I guess you need to make it clear that you have to cut ties with me and Jules to make F4.

6 minutes agoMatt Mccleland
I think that I actually have done everything that I can. My story has been laid, and now in order to not seem like i'm scrambling, I need to let it go and see what happens.
Either way...you, me, and juli will vote for adam. would adam, helen and matt all vote the same way?

3 minutes agoSeth Martel
I think they would all vote the same way as long as its not for me. I still have an inkling of faith that Matt doesn't want to shank me. But I think it would be ok if his friends did it. haha

about a minute agoMatt Mccleland
If it came down to it, would you be willing to let it go to a tie vote...as in...3 for adam, and 3 for me? I don't want to think that matt would vote for me either, but i guess that I can't say for sure. If it goes 3-3, I would be fine competing to stay in the game.

a few seconds agoSeth Martel
same goes for me, a 3 on 3 is fine for me too. Its the only way we're gonna advance.
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Robb,Feb 22 2012
09:06 AM
for instance, which I really don't think was on purpose, but when the site would "crash" on her sooo close to the vote? Nerve wracking and seemed very convenient timing! But she did pull through both times, so am pretty sure it really wasn't working for her. Just pretty crazy.


I cannot help what anyone's individual connection is or any specific issues with their computer and whatnot.


HOWEVER....


With the very specific details I gave all of you at the beginning of the game.......it is impossible for the board to "crash" for one person. If there is a temporary server issue.......
........it happens for EVERYONE at the EXACT SAME TIME.


Meaning, if you can't get on.......neither can I. Averages around 3 to 5 minutes to sort itself out. (in most cases)


It's possible people mean different things when they say "crash".....and like I said, I have no idea what anyone's specific computer setup is............but no, the board can't just "crash" for one person.




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So, with the plans you were referencing above, did you think the endgame would ever get this complicated?


And on some level ~ are you glad it did? :D
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BROBST,Feb 22 2012
09:18 PM
So, with the plans you were referencing above, did you think the endgame would ever get this complicated?


And on some level ~ are you glad it did? :D

Go big or go home, buddy!

Or...

go big AND go home :)
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I'm also just simply going to try to get MP to vote out Adam tonight.

He may not want to vote for him, but... heck... why not try.

Sometimes the simplest answer is the one to go with.
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BROBST,Feb 22 2012
08:00 PM
I cannot help what anyone's individual connection is or any specific issues with their computer and whatnot.


HOWEVER....


With the very specific details I gave all of you at the beginning of the game.......it is impossible for the board to "crash" for one person.  If there is a temporary server issue.......
........it happens for EVERYONE at the EXACT SAME TIME. 


Meaning, if you can't get on.......neither can I.  Averages around 3 to 5 minutes to sort itself out.  (in most cases)


It's possible people mean different things when they say "crash".....and like I said, I have no idea what anyone's specific computer setup is............but no, the board can't just "crash" for one person.

oh Deb's router could also be having issues, or a clogged DSL due to the prime time we tend to play... a lot of factors could be the culprit. Who knows!
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ch ch ch changes...

lots of PMing.

Helen, tell me how you really feel.

Or don't. You are the one player I can NOT read. UGH.
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D E T A I L S ? :)
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another idea for tonight.... force Plastina back into our four. Whether he likes it or not :)

I don't think Helen is buying it, but she may weigh her options to vote for MP. If she really thinks it out, flushing the idol is good for everybody, because MattP has no allegiance to her.

What would be *bad* for her is if we vote Adam out instead. Which I would like to do.

Make it seem like Juli/Mcclel and I are sick of Plastina bullying our votes (I am) and then last minute tell him to play the idol and vote out whoever HE voted for, or he's getting the boot.

I would actually try to get Mcclel/Juli and myself to vote for Adam then.

1 vote Plastina
2 votes person X (Juli?)
3 votes Adam

But... who knows. Immunity can ruin the best laid plans.
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I know Helen is only pretending because she told Mcclel that she would tell me she would consider it, and then wrote me a PM directly after saying the same.

I'm plugged in, but I want more control over these wild cards!
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