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Round Seven
Topic Started: Nov 25 2013, 12:20 AM (39 Views)
Ghandia
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I SURVIVED HOLY SHIT
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What's the latest TARGET wise? Sugar vs Abi, where do you and your allies stand? Has their rivalry kept the focus off of you? What are the pros and cons???
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Haha I have this MONSTER confessional to post but I ran out of time to finish it! Hopefully I will live through this round to put it up.

Real quick-- targets tonight are Sugar, Abi, or Corinne.

And a big change from yesterday that my confessional post will fill you in on, but I want Abi gone and Sugar to stay.
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This is going to be the 5th out of 7 total tribals that I (and Pete) will have gone to. :cry :cry :cry
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Ugh I am SO FUCKING FRUSTRATED. I would fucking LOVE to not be in danger for just one fucking night.
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Okay, I wrote this earlier in the day today, so before Round Seven was over. It's only half the story but it's so huge and most of it is relevant to this round anyway, so I'm going to post this in this thread as part one, and continue in the Round Eight thread with part two. :)








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Omg everything is so crazy right now. I feel like I can't be 100% sure of absolutely anyone, except for probably Pete. I trust Pete more than anyone else in the game, I don't hold anything back from him and I don't think he holds back from me, either. He and I have been on a pretty crazy rollercoaster ride together, first with the Phillip shit and now with the Abi/Sugar drama.

So here's the thing. If you remember in one of my first confessionals I said that I loved Sugar but was a little wary of her. I learned from FDE's Powerpuff game that you have to be careful and skeptical with people of a certain type. In that game it was Bubbles, and in this game it's Sugar. They remind me of each other. Not necessarily personality-wise, but the persona and the current circumstances, I guess.

ANYWAY. So I knew to be cautious around Sugar in case she was going to fuck me over like Bubbles did. And I was, even though I was working closely with her. But shit blew up after the Phillip vote. At least half the cast came to Pete and me to tell us that Sugar had been throwing us under the bus hardcore, and Abi and Stephanie forwarded PMs to show it. The PMs could definitely have been tampered with, but the fact that such a diverse range of people were coming to me (including Alicia even) that I had to believe that there was at least some truth in it. So of course, my trust in Sugar dropped down to zero, and Pete and I contemplated working with Abi.

Abi I liked in the first few days, but now I really don't like her at all. I enjoy her public persona, but in PMs she just rubs me the wrong way. And Abi is a strong, aggressive player and there's no way she doesn't have deals all over the place. But it was Stephanie that I've felt close to, and the one that I confided in the most about Sugar stuff (I'll get to that in a second), so even though I wasn't a fan of Abi, I saw Steph as somebody that I could trust, and since she was working with Abi, I was too now, by proxy.

This MIGHT be where I made a mistake. It either was a good move or a terrible one. I obviously couldn't trust Sugar, so I turned to Stephanie, and I pretty much put my life in her hands by unloading all of my secrets onto her. And so was born this PM chain, which is probably obnoxiously long and thank god this isn't Smuffy's game so I won't get yelled at :P I've bolded and enlarged the important parts so you can skip over the other stuff if you want:


Stephanie
 

OK I'm here now :<3 I really haven't made the most of this weekend in terms of messaging people, because I've been damn busy, but I figure I do NOT want to fall out of this game, so I'd better get to messaging finally.


I just want you to know that I don't harbor resentment for the Phillip vote, like, shit happens, I get it. And while I might think Terry is the worst fucking person in the world from my interactions with him, I respect that you were on a tribe together and therefore have a different experience probably.

I just thought it was a damn fucking shame because Phillip was actually you know, interesting.
And I'm not going to lie, you and Pete have taken the heat for that vote, or are seen as being more "responsible" for it than Alicia and Sugar - which tbh is a pretty weak explanation from them.

I'd still like for us to work together in this game though, I absolutely am in need of friends at this point. How have you found the weekend?





Ghandia
 

I've heard that Pete and I are getting blamed for it, which blows.  I'm sure you've already heard everything by now, but
this is my side of it, being as objective as possible-- the decision to vote Phillip was suggested at the beginning of the voting period (at least to me), not at all during the day, because a member of Hideous had told us that Phillip was putting together an alliance of Hideous/Grotesque to take on us/you guys. I do wish we'd had that information earlier in the day rather than during the voting period so we could have thought it over more and talked about it with you guys. It didn't occur to me that everybody would be so pissed about it, I thought we were just protecting ourselves and Vile.

I imagine that there's a lot of different stories going around and
I know that there are members of original Repugnant trying to throw each other under the bus. I'm not going to do that, we all voted for him and nobody forced any of us to do it, so we should all take equal responsibility. In fairness, I could tell that Alicia was upset about it; but she said she'd do it because she didn't feel like arguing with the others. I would have voiced my opposition to the vote, though, if I'd known it was going to upset everyone else to the extent that they were.  But obviously, I didn't.  I didn't realize he had such strong relationships with everyone, as I didn't know him that well myself. 

I'm hearing that the reason everyone is so upset is because we did it to save Terry.  I was told that voting Denise was about saving Terry, but that voting Phillip wasn't.  I do still believe that because if they were honest about it with me the first time, why wouldn't they be the second? But it's hard to even know what to believe anymore, I'm so fucking confused and terrified that I'm going to go down for this.  I'll accept all the responsibility that I deserve, I voted for him and I didn't voice an opposition about doing so, I went along with it willingly.  I didn't want to start shit with the tribe, I want everything to go smoothly for the beginning of the game because it was too early for drama.  And I admit that I was wrong because it made it worse. :(  I didn't care enough about Phillip or Terry to tank my game for either one of them at f15.

Anyway... I'm not going to partake in the blame game and throwing people under the bus because that's shitty, we all fucking did it and not one single person opposed it out loud (except sort of Alicia to me).  I want to fight for myself, but not by pretending I'm 100% innocent and everyone else was 100% wrong.

I know that you're probably going to reply to this message with understanding and you'll say it's okay, even if it isn't.  I'm just asking that you don't do that, please
tell me if you're upset because I would rather know and be able to work it out with you than have to pretend that we trust each other when we really don't.  I've opened myself up to you since the beginning, telling you all that shit about Colton's alliance when we'd barely even talked before that. You can call bullshit if you want, but I knew in like, two messages that you and I had the potential to really click.  I have several paragraphs in my confessional about you and how much I really thought you and I could be awesome together, and one of the cohosts was even like "Holy shit, that was sudden :lol:".  And yeah, I never believe people when they say stuff like that either, haha.  But I'm being honest. (SIDE NOTE: Okay yes, that was a lie, but hey it served my purpose :P)

Anyway.  Sorry this is like a novel.  And if you really are past the Phillip vote, then we don't have to dwell on it and can never speak about it again if you want.
  I just wanted to really stress to you that this is the relationship I'm the most stressed about having potentially damaged, and I would feel so much better if you bitched me out or whatever if you really are pissed.  I can handle it, and it wouldn't make me turn on you.  I've got nothing to hide from you, you can ask me absolutely anything you want.  Being shady and lying to cover shit up never helps any relationship, and especially not this one.

I hope you had a good date night the other night. ;)


Stephanie
 


Awwww thank you boo-boo, to steal Phillip's affectionate name! :')

Honestly the weekend has made things wash away and while I did like Phillip I would have been surprised for him to make much further in this game. I did like him and would have wanted to work with him but I think it is likely that he would have been booted soon, especially if he was trying to create a counter alliance. That wouldn't have worked for me at all.


I really want you to know that I'm totally touched by this message and I really hope we can build better bridges than we ever had before. I want to proceed in this game with you, and there will be no ill will or resentment harbored by me about the Phillip vote. I want you to know that it was Sugar who threw you and Pete under the bus as coordinating the vote, saying that she and Alicia were vocally opposed. I see now that she either lied or really exaggerated that.

Honestly I don't think you should worry yourself. I'm a little worried myself. If you've read the main forum you'll see that my tribe is tearing itself apart, meanwhile I'm just talking to myself in our new tribe's forum about this guy that I'm messing around with. I'm worried that I'll be seen as a sidekick to Abi for sticking up for her against Sugar and Terry, but honestly she has justice on her side, and I would actually want no part in this game if she, too, were to leave before Terry. I hope you can understand that, and I hope you don't misinterpret that to mean more than it does.


Let's do this shit gurl. Like a thief in the night, no one will see us coming. I'm touched and wow probably the best message I've ever received. :Love

Let's get real though, I have some questions:

1. What is your relationship like with your current tribe and former tribe
2. Who would you vote for if you went to tribal council with my tribe tonight
3. Who would you vote for if you went to tribal council without my tribe tonight
4. How big are your boobs, like what bra size, cos damn gurl.






Ghandia
 

:<3 Thanks for this, it makes me feel a lot better.  Idk why I'm so attached to you, but I am.  :lol:  I was terrified to PM you after the vote, seeing how mad you were.


Yeah, everybody is telling me that it's Sugar, which fucking blows because not only is it a lie, but I trusted her a lot.  This is the conversation we had during the voting period, every single word of it.

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Pete is suggesting Phillip, and said he sent you that PM from Dreamz earlier today.  Should we do that instead of losing Terry?


That seems like a good idea, actually.



Alicia might need a little prodding; she said I was the first one to bring it up to her and that she hasn't heard from you or Pete yet.


I think she will do it.



Sounds good. :<3


I'm not talking shit about Sugar, I'm not trying to pull the same move she is and blame everything on her.
You can see exactly what happened above. If Alicia expressed to her that she didn't want to do it, then you can clearly see that Sugar either disregarded it, or was never told it in the first place.

I'm not sure if I'm doing the right thing in showing you this, because I don't want to get in the middle of all this Abi/Sugar stuff because I feel like it's slightly moving the focus to that rather than to the treacherous scum that is Pete and me. :rolleyes: I haven't shown it to anybody or talked about it with anybody, not even a single member from my own tribe. But she started talking about taking out Abi right around the RC vote, before Phillip and the swap and all this shit.

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We should try and get a little closer to Stephanie. She told me she was worried Abi might be getting too much power (keep that between you and me) and so I think if the time and opportunity were right, she would vote out Abi.
I trust her for now, but when you think about it, there are a lot of people who like/trust her. She is in a similar position as us. So many people, myself included, really put a lot of stock into their relationships with her, so she is a huge threat. When the time is right I think we should boot Abi out of here in a nice little blindside.



And this was from Friday:



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How are things going with Abi and Steph?  I'm a little nervous to message either of them.  :/

Based on the way they reacted, they are being too nice about it, and that is weird. I am not sure I trust their tone. They were so upset about it but now telling me they get it? They seem to think that it was Pete protecting Terry, which I suppose is kinda true since Pete pushed for Phillip, but I am a little worried about Pete if they think he was the brains behind it. I am going to try and work my magic and talk them off of the ledge.


Did we make the wrong move? :/

I am not sure yet. I think either choice was the wrong move. For whatever reason they really do seem genuinely upset about it, so I don't get it. I am trying to cover our asses and do damage control with Abi and Stephanie, though. I will let you know what they say.


I don't know if this is true, but Abi is saying that you're blaming it on Pete and me. :/

Abi tells me the opposite. I mean it is obvious what she wants to do, so is trying to get us to splinter and go after eachother. With basically little to no way of saving Terry, that makes Vile the last remaining tribe with 5 members, and Jeff Kent actually confirmed with me that they would have always voted to keep Corinne in the game, so their antics ant temper tantrum about keeping Terry is complete hypocrisy on their part, and we just threaten them at the moment. Don't let her get in your heads, because there is no way that she is playing for anyone but Vile to win. I trust you and Pete still, and that is not going to change. Me working with Abi makes literally no sense at all because I am sixth with them. The only one from Vile that talks to me with some semblance of honesty is Jeff, and when I hear from Lisi on the rare occasion, she is honest as well. But Abi knows full well what she is doing. All this drama about keeping Terry over Phillip is their way of trying to make targets of us, and we can't let her get away with that. This is what Vile has been doing from day 1, they basically just try and bully the entire cast into doing exactly what they want. They started that public drama with Denise, and they have been going on about how "everyone has been so upset because you guys kept Terry" when literally everyone (except Abi and Stephanie) have said they honestly don't care, so either everyone is lying, or Abi is just trying to manipulate everyone to get her way. I am half tempted to just try and organize a blindside against her. Why the fuck should we vote Terry? Let's be honest with ourselves for a second here. With Terry, especially the whole cast being so against him, we always have a loyal vote in our corner. We could potentially have the numbers to pull it off. Me, you, Pete, Terry, there is 4 guaranteed, we would need 2 more. If we just give up Terry, then we give up a number and we are going to get picked off one by one. I suppose we would have to get Jane and Zane on board with it, but Zane seems to want to stick with Abi :/ I am just growing sick and tired of "playing for the group." The biggest proponent of that has been Abi, which in my mind just makes her the biggest snake, because she benefits the most from it. I won't bring up blindsiding Abi to Zane or Jane just yet. I want to know what you and Pete think first.


I would obviously really, really love it if you didn't run back to Sugar with this.I'm on yours and Abi's side because Sugar dug her own grave here by throwing me under the bus. Maybe it's selfish but I'd really love to not be in the limelight at the moment, since I feel like it's somewhat turned off of me a little bit now. :(

I do totally get what you say about Abi. It would be a fucking travesty if she left before Terry, and I think only Sugar and Terry would disagree with that. Abi has clearly made the stronger case here with her thread, and she looks a lot better than Sugar does. And yes, I've been told that you and Corinne are Abi's sidekicks and that she wants to "drag" you two to the f3. I don't know if that's true, but it doesn't really matter because it's f15 and waaayy too early to be concerned about right now because shit changes like hell. So even if it IS true, I'm determined to win you over anyway. ;)

Okay, now for your questions:


1. What is your relationship like with your current tribe and former tribe
Former tribe: I considered Sugar to be my closest ally. I've always had the feeling that Pete and Alicia felt the same way about her, too. I don't think Terry cared. I liked Pete by association with Sugar, because at first neither Alicia nor Terry were active so it was like the three of us. Usually things were relayed through Sugar. Alicia and I didn't hate each other, but we didn't really connect at first because in the beginning I found her to be short in PMs and a little abrasive, although that passed after a few days. Sugar was tight with her, she kept telling her how awesome Alicia was and that she thought the four of us could be tight. As for Terry, I've now already said his name more times than I've ever even talked to him. :lol: I appreciate that he's active now, but is very difficult to talk to (which I'm sure you know by now).

Current tribe:
Pete and I were connected by Sugar before, but we've both been hearing that Sugar's throwing us under the bus, so in our stress our relationship has become a little bit tighter. :lol: I obviously had never really talked to Corinne before the swap, but she's been very nice to me in the couple PMs I've gotten from her since then. I always liked Jeff and found him to write good PMs. I'm hoping he'll be on my side. Jane is the biggest wildcard-- she never talked to me before except for once. She says she's over it now, but I don't know if that's true or not. I hope so. I don't know what my position on my tribe is, I'm pretty worried. :(

2. Who would you vote for if you went to tribal council with my tribe tonight
Honestly, whoever you wanted. If you did want to boot Terry, that's fine with me.
If you wanted to make a move against Sugar, that's fine too. Sugar has shown she's not my friend, and as much as she denies it there's just way too much corroboration between what others are telling me for her to be being honest.

3. Who would you vote for if you went to tribal council without my tribe tonight
Again, probably whatever you guys wanted.
I think I could talk Pete into whatever because he's pretty freaked out right now, and I know you guys could talk with Jeff, Corinne, Lisi, and probably Alicia. I would vote for anybody that isn't on my side right now, and you probably know that better than I do. Plus I trust you to not fuck me over.

4. How big are your boobs, like what bra size, cos damn gurl.
My best guess would be like, 42DDD. :lol: I've got plenty to go around. :Love


Stephanie
 

Oh my God Ghandia :lol: I fucking love you. Jackpot. Like I've actually won the lottery by having this relationship with you. I can't begin to explain how much of a pathological liar Sugar is, I'm actually kind of hurt.
It's going to take a lot of restraint for me not to just go absolutely fucking apeshit at her, but I respect your privacy 100% and everything you've shared with me so I'll play nice for now. I am just so shocked and offended.

Sugar
 
I feel like you definitely deserve an explanation about Terry still being here. I will tell you exactly what I told Abi. Alicia and I did not want to do it at all. And you know what? I am not going to keep him at all this time. The second we go to tribal I will vote him. Pete and Ghandia are to blame for it. They were being so stubborn and would not change their mind about voting for Phillip. It was a very awkward situation. I wanted Terry gone, but since they refused to change their minds Alicia and I were in a very weird spot, either we betray our own tribe, or make everyone happy. It really sucked, and so please don't blame Alicia for this, because she is not to blame at all. Since we didn't swap when expected I was not sure if it would happen, so betraying Ghandia and Pete and having them be mad at us would have made our position worse. But just to be clear, I am not going to vote to protect him ever again. Forget it. This caused too much drama, and I should have just gone with my initial instinct about it and booted Terry.


This is so upsetting and I'm glad that Sugar's house of cards is now blown over. Again, thank you so much for being so open with me, you saved my ass. I was being led astray and now I know what's up.

If we go to tribal tonight, we will push for it to be either Terry or Sugar. I was desperate for it to be Terry for the whole of last week but this is the first time I've felt betrayal in this game, and it's come from Sugar, so I will have to give some thought to which I am more offended by. I'm open to suggestions, too.

I think we can make that vote happen if we go to tribal council, regardless of who we go with. But on the offchance that we win immunity, I don't know what I'd suggest you do. I think there's been talk of Corinne, but obviously I like Corinne so I would hope that she wouldn't become the target. It might sound strange that I'm suggesting this since there's fodder to boot, but I would totally be down with taking out a bigger player in a more dramatic vote. Obviously I just hope that that wouldn't be someone I like.


Apart from my tribe, I really feel great about Jeff/Alicia/Marcus/Corinne/Lisi, as well as you.I like Dreamz as well.

I do not trust Tyson. I do not trust Jane. I like Pete, but we don't have much of a relationship.

That's basically where I'm at. Jane is with Marcus probably since they are the only survivors of Grotesque, but someone mentioned to me that Tyson might have an idol. Which may be a reason to blindside idk. Your call, I'm really not trying to be some huge powerplayer like Sugar - I'm looking out for me right now.

And I'm looking out for you too.


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