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| Topic Started: May 24 2007, 12:59 AM (376 Views) | |
| Hollywood Jim | May 24 2007, 12:59 AM Post #1 |
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Hey guys look what I found..!!! I'm not sure how correct it is, but it looks OK. The mm represents how many mm in a scale foot. For example a 6 foot man in 1/24th scale would be 6 X 12.7mm = 76.2mm Scale ratio mm/scale foot Comments 1:2500 0.122 mm A European size for naval wargaming ship models. 1:2400 0.127 mm A British and American size for naval wargaming ship models. 1:1250 0.244 mm A European size for ship models. 1:1200 0.254 mm A British and American size for ship and harbor models. 1:1000 This is a scale used by Germans for pre-finished airliner models. Herpa produces several models in this scale. 1:720 0.423 mm This was a standard size for ship models. 1:700 0.435 mm This is the scale that Tamiya, Aoshima, Hasegawa, and Fujimi chose to produce the largest series of waterline plastic model ships and submarines. Later Skywave joined in. 1:600 0.508 mm Popular for ships, especially liners and capital ships. This is the traditional scale for comparative drawings of ships, used by the Royal Navy because it's about one-tenth of a nautical mile to the foot. 1:570 0.535 mm This scale was used by Monogram for some ship models because it was one-half the size of the standard scale for wargaming models used by the US Army. 1:500 0.610 mm This is a scale used by Europeans for pre-finished airliner models. Trumpeter produces ships in this scale. 1:432 0.706 mm The scale used during the Second World War by the US Navy for aircraft recognition. 1:400 0.762 mm A European size for ship and submarine models and die cast aircraft. 1:350 0.871 mm A Japanese size for ship models. 1:288 1.058 mm A scale for aircraft and rockets. 1:285 1.070 mm The US Army scale for sand-table wargames. 1:250 1.219 mm Used by Heller for model ships. 1:220 1.385 mm Same as Z gauge. 1:160 1.906 mm American and European model trains in N scale. 1:152 1.906 mm 2mm scale railway modelling. 1:150 2.032 mm Used by Heller for model ships, and proposed by the Japanese to supersede 1:144 scale trains. 1:152 1.906 mm British N scale railway modelling. 1:144 2.117 mm Popular for aircraft, spacecraft. Also some Japanese N scale trains. 1:128 2.381 mm A few rockets and some fit-in-the-box aircraft are made to this size. 1:108 2.822 mm An historic size for ships, also used for rockets and spacecraft. 1:100 3.048 mm A Japanese scale for aircraft, spacecraft, and giant robots. 1:96 3.175 mm An historic scale for ships, also used for spacecraft. 1:90 3.387 mm A scale proposed by some European manufacturers to supersede HO scale. 1:87 3.503 mm Civilian and military vehicles. Same as HO scale. 1:82 3.717 mm An intermediate scale (H0/00) intended to apply to both H0 and 00 scale train sets. 1:76 4.011 mm Military vehicles. Same as 4 mm scale (OO gauge, etc.). 1:75 4.064 mm Used by Heller for model ships. 1:72 4.233 mm Aircraft, military vehicles and smaller shipping. Now the most prolific small scale (i.e. less than 1:35) for plastic injection armored fighting vehicle (AFV) models 1:64 4.763 mm Ships, die-cast cars. Same as S gauge. Also called 3/16in. scale. 1:50 6 mm Many european diecast construction vehicles and trucks. 1:48 6.35 mm Known as quarter scale. Mainly military aircraft but in 2005 Tamiya launched a new series of armored fighting vehicle (AFV) models in this scale. It is used by Americans with the 0 scale. Also the most popular Lego scale, know as minifig scale. 1:45 6.773 mm This is the scale which MOROP has declared must go with the 0 scale, because it is half the size of the G-gauge model railways made by German manufacturers. 1:43 7.088 mm Still the most popular scale for die-cast cars worldwide, metric or otherwise. It originates from the scale that the British use with the 0 scale. 1:40 7.62 mm The very early models of the British Coronation Coach and a few other horse-drawn wagons were made in this scale. Cheap soft plastic soldier figures are also made to this scale; there are a few kits to make vehicles for them. 1:35 8.709 mm The most popular scale for military vehicles and figures. It was originally conceived by Tamiya for convenience of fitting motorised parts and batteries. 1:34 8.800mm A popular scale for collecting vintage and modern American truck models. Established by First Gear, Inc. in the early 90's with growing popularity in Europe and Australia. 1:32 9.525 mm Military vehicles; 54 mm toy soldiers are supposed to use this scale as well. Same as Gauge 1. 1:29 10.514mm American model trains running on 45mm Gauge 1 track. 1:28 10.89 mm Biplane fighters. 1:25 12.2 mm Cars, figures. AMT (now combined with Ertl), Revell, and Jo-Han made cars in this scale. This is preferred in Europe to 1:24. Holland has whole toy villages in this scale. 1:24 12.7 mm Cars, figures. Monogram made cars in this scale; Tamiya still does. 1:22.5 G Scale trains made by German manufacturers. 1:20 15.24 mm Cars. 1:19 16.04 mm 16mm scale live steam model railways. This is also the scale for those "four-inch" adventure movie figurines. 1:18 16.93 mm Cars made from kits; there are also pre-assembled toy military vehicles, fighter planes, and helicopters. 1:16 19.05 mm Live steam trains (ridable), Figures 1:12 25.4 mm Figures, Cars, Live steam trains (ridable) 1:8 38.1 mm Live steam trains (ridable) 1:6 50.8 mm Figures, motorcycles, Rail Cannons, Armored Vehicles, Military Dioramas. |
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| Dan S | May 24 2007, 03:23 AM Post #2 |
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Pretty neat list, (chart?) Jim. One more you might want to add: TT (table top) 1/120 (link below explains) In U.S. they use 1/10 of an inch to the foot. Not to be confused with European TT3. Dan TT http://www.thortrains.net/ttscale/ttdex.html TT3 http://users.bart.nl/~borgers/3mm/index.htm |
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| DamnCranky66 | May 24 2007, 09:23 AM Post #3 |
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Nothing like waking up to math on a Thursday morning. Thanks! Actually, this is great information, and it's wonderful to have it, so thank you both! |
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| Chuck Doan | May 24 2007, 09:53 AM Post #4 |
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With all that, they forgot 1:20.3 scale for trains. Makes the 45 mm LGB track scale out to 3 foot gauge. Some also use this track for 2 foot gauge models at the proportion 1:13.7 (I think, too early for math) 1/12th is also a very popular size for dollhouse miniatures. CD |
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| khamilton | May 24 2007, 10:34 AM Post #5 |
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....when I saw the "Scales" heading I thought you were making another fish. Thanks for the chart, Jim. That's a keeper. |
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| Lou | May 24 2007, 10:57 AM Post #6 |
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So many scales, so few hours in a day. I just can't decide what scale I should use for my next build. Is one scale better than the other? What photographs best? I remember a question from another forum that I think should be asked here, "What size would a 2"x4" measure in each scale?" |
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| Gasser Dave | Dec 5 2007, 04:22 PM Post #7 |
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I'm not certain if I've been doing this correct. If not, SOMEBODY STOP ME!!!!!! I mainly deal in 1:25, so I take and divide a foot by 25 (12 / 25) = .480" one scale foot. .480 / 12 = .040 one scale inch. .040 / 4 = .010 one quarter scale inch. A 1:25 2"x 4" x 8' would measure; .060" x .140" x 3.84" Time to hit the table saw in order to stock up. I'll let you know how I made out.....if I have fingers left to type with. (all I need is one) |
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| HowardE | Dec 5 2007, 05:22 PM Post #8 |
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Sounds about right...I usually build my structures 1/24 scale so I can use my scale ruler to set things up for cutting...1/2 inch =1 foot, I just find it easier to figure out using fractions instead of decimals,if you are interested I have a couple of charts that are handy for conversions, I could send you the files so you can print them out if you'd like
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| DamnCranky66 | Dec 5 2007, 05:27 PM Post #9 |
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For me, all this math is like eating chocolate bunnies . . .
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| Gasser Dave | Dec 5 2007, 06:13 PM Post #10 |
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My head hurts's. :wacko: |
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| Hollywood Jim | Dec 5 2007, 06:16 PM Post #11 |
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Gasser Dave: You are correct. That is exactly how I do it. I convert the full scale 1:1 object to inches and then I divide by 25 for 1/25th scale. And by 24 for 1/24th scale. Or by any scale I need.... 32 for 1/32 scale, etc. I like having the results in inches and 10ths of an inch (decimals). Because I use my digital caliper which reads out in 10's 100's and 1000's of an inch (decimals). |
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| TimKustom | Dec 5 2007, 06:25 PM Post #12 |
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This is great stuff. I've saved it for future reference. I'm sure it's been brought up, but I've found I like using millimeters when dealing with 1:25th scale. 1" = 25.4 mm. So its like 1mm = 1inch in 25th scale. What about the .4? All my models are off by at least that. Easier with the digi calipers that way too. This from someone who has memorized fraction to decimals from 1" to 1/32".... :wacko: |
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| DamnCranky66 | Dec 5 2007, 06:26 PM Post #13 |
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The way I figure it, you guys have always pitched in to help me stay within the boundaries of whatever scale I end up working in! Thanks in advance. |
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| Lou | Dec 5 2007, 07:46 PM Post #14 |
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My head hurts more than Virg's with all this conversion math. Just go out and buy a 1/25 scale ruler. http://www.akhobby.com/pd_187_scale_ruler.cfm |
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| DamnCranky66 | Dec 5 2007, 08:00 PM Post #15 |
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Actually, Lou, I have a wallet size 1/24th scale card with the outline of figures on it . . . it's been a great tool over the years . . . |
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| Lou | Dec 5 2007, 08:08 PM Post #16 |
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That would be really cool if it was printed on clear plastic along with a scale. Hmm? Might be a bigger seller than Ken's book. |
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| chester | Dec 5 2007, 08:45 PM Post #17 |
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I took my plastic 1/87 scale rule and photo copied it onto manila paper and keep it folded in my wallet. Trouble is, I keep leaving my glasses at home and can't read the damn thing when I'm in a store. Thanks for that list HJ, really interesting to see it all broken down to what those scale usually represent. |
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| Lou | Dec 5 2007, 08:52 PM Post #18 |
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Chester, For every problem there is a solution. If the scale rulers were printed in combination with a pocket magnifier like a foldout then there wouldn't be a problem with the sight impared. Or it could be inside a sleeve which is the magnifier and the insert is a bunch of different scale rulers. |
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| Mercman | Dec 5 2007, 10:12 PM Post #19 |
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I just keep a 6 inch ruler in my wallet. But then I have ne of them chain drive trucker wallets.
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| Lou | Dec 5 2007, 10:27 PM Post #20 |
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The average bill in america measures about 6 1/32". If you fold that in half you would get 3 1/64." In thirds you would get 2" and some change. If you folded into 27 parts. Well then you would have a very small bill. |
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| dptydawg | Dec 5 2007, 10:37 PM Post #21 |
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I always build 1mm to the inch. It makes conversion a snap and the extra .4 of a mil is beyond the vision of almost all eyeballs. I use metric calipers to measure. metric drill bits for holes Evergreen shapes are produced in metric so it makes scratch building much easier. I measure in imperial and build in metric. So a 6 foot (72 inch) figure is 72 mm tall in scale Thanks Carl |
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| DaveInTheHat | Dec 6 2007, 12:54 AM Post #22 |
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A lot of times when I'm scratch building and have to measure stuff I work in picas, points and agits. I don't really have a logical reason or explanation. |
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| DamnCranky66 | Dec 6 2007, 08:43 AM Post #23 |
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Welll, whatever you are doing, Dave, seems to work really well for you. And since I am a fan of your work, I tend to believe that sign hanging over your workbench!!! :lol: |
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| Gasser Dave | Dec 6 2007, 09:30 AM Post #24 |
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Carl, Thanks for the tip. That sounds WAY too easy to try though! :lol: |
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| Bryan_M | Dec 6 2007, 06:16 PM Post #25 |
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no way lou! bryan m |
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