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The Merge; screw the cakewalk
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Topic Started: Jan 21 2014, 11:18 PM (133 Views)
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Judd
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Jan 22 2014, 09:46 AM
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he he, Now I can get some sleep. It's 9:30am my time and I've pulled a very long all-nighter. 
You are amazing.... GO TO BED!!!!!
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Jan 22 2014, 09:55 AM
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Ok, so I have climbed to the top (behind you) in post counts... hard to believe huh? hahhaaa
Update. I told Clay that they are targeting him from Pattaya.. I told him that I wouldn't let that happen. I gotta get close to this guy.
I told Michelle a few tidbits.. and told her that they are trying to take out Sathon.... hopefully I can keep her, but I doubt it... she has been MIA from my message box today.
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Judd
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Jan 22 2014, 10:44 AM
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I think I played Darrah once in one of these games somewhere. So many they all blend together.
Yeah, I was laughing out loud at work yesterday looking over the old Germany thread.... I almost made it. It was fun.... I love confusing people.
It is easy for me, because most of the time.... I am confused myself. hahahhahaa
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Judd
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Jan 22 2014, 10:46 AM
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It would be good to have a game with a silent partner. Someone offline who has limited visibility but someone to talk things out with. Like right now, I would love to talk strategy with Darrah. I am so bummed that she is gone.
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Judd
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Jan 22 2014, 11:34 AM
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I want the rookies to think that I am devastated that Darrah got the boot.
I want the Vets to think that I no longer have a close ally.
Mind Games 101
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Judd
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Jan 22 2014, 11:50 AM
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Did you notice the Flag? Whoever did it is sending a message. They put Brendan on the top and me on the bottom. Not gonna happen that way!!!
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Judd
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Jan 22 2014, 12:35 PM
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Sent this to Brendan.
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Ok, let's see what happens. I planted a seed with Clay. We will find out if he can be trusted.
I told him that his name has come up over here. Let's see if he runs to you and Burton and blabs... or if he is cool and quiet. I bet he is a blabber.
He thinks that I hate you... as does everyone else. It is the only way that we can move quietly in this game.
Did you see how I called you out in the flag? hahaha
Gotta keep people interested in our friction.
Let me know if Clay squeals.... here piggy piggy piggy...
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Judd
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Jan 22 2014, 12:41 PM
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To Flicka
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I posted that stuff to Darrah for 2 reasons...
1. to show that I lost my only ally 2. to show that the rookies know I will fight those who crushed Darrah.
It is subtle.. but it may help.
I think any little bit helps at this point....
I told Clay that he was the target but not to tell Burton or Brendan that he knows.
I told Brendan that I am testing Clay to see if Brendan can trust him by telling him he is the target. I told Brendan to tell me if Clay Blabs.
If Clay Blabs, Brendan will tell me.... thinking it is helping him. In reality it is giving us the information if WE can trust Clay or not.
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Judd
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Jan 22 2014, 02:00 PM
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Ok this is the basics from Clay's message to Flicka: - Quote:
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Message Forwarded From Clay Judd is playing both sides. I can tell by this message. He is sounding just like PG - Quote:
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Just to let you know.
Anytime anyone asks me about you... I tell them that I don't really talk to you and that you annoy me.
Of course... you don't. But I don't want them to know that we are working together.
Gotta keep up the front.
Judd
-Brendan has reached out to me..(Judd hates Brendan we can use this to our advantage)
-Burton is now being my friend. (he has never really talked to me before) Burton is the first rookie that I am voting out once we have the numbers.
-Jay hasn't talked much because it was late last night. but I'm looking to see if he is still on board with the JFC final 3 (Jay Flicka Clay)
-Chad stopped by and said hi. (that's it)
- I was surprised that I haven't heard from sandy yet. I think burton brought her to the dark side.
Gillian Chad and Brendan look to be the first targets. (only because we have Judd Yau and Michelle to use as votes.
-Here's what I'm thinking 1st tribal -You me judd and the rest vote out Chad or Gillian 2nd tribal -You me and the tribe vote out chad or Gillian 3rd tribal -we vote out the snake Burton 4th tribal Brendon, michelle, Judd or Yau we go from there.
What do you think?
From Flicka to me... As far as Clay needs to know I am on board with a final 3 of me, him, and Jay (I'm not, but you know my intentions). I am glad he is not being swayed by Burton to vote with new Pattaya.... This will help us. Clay is clearly willing to stick with me and try to take down some of those vets, which is better than him going to the dark side and trying to target you right away. So I think we can use Clay to get out the big guns from new Pattaya as long as he doesn't end up being this first casualty post-merge. I am going to make sure Clay knows that we can really trust you for now, and he thinks we can cut you later when the time comes. And I am going to ask him if HE thinks Jay would vote with us. If he approaches Jay first, then that opens up that line of communication with him, and perhaps even Burton if he and Jay are tight. Also-- I wanna trust Yau, but I am starting to get paranoid as he hasn't been as talkative with me the past couple of days. I am hoping it's just because he knows we are good and he is out getting information. I don't want to start worrying about things I don't need to!
From me to Flicka... I am up for any voting plan that you want.. but why do you think he wants to start with Chad or Gillian? That strikes me as odd. There are big targets... Brendan and Burton. I don't understand why everyone is afraid to hit them big first? Whatever. I have been dancing too loudly as of late. I have to retract a little bit and let the dust settle (from the other sides point of view). Yau says he will be there with me to the end... but like I said... I wonder sometimes. I guess we have to count on him. But he thinks that he is friends with Gillian.... I guess we see what opens up... I haven't even heard from Michelle yet today. I will talk to Yau to see where his head is at. I would love to have everyone on the same page so that we don't have people getting paranoid and changing their votes. If we can get Jay and Clay together JFC... that would be awesome because you know you could trust that. I will keep my ears open... and try to close my mouth a little...hahaha Thanks for the update, Flicka.
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Jan 23 2014, 12:26 AM
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I have to go.... but read my PMs.... especially clay and yau and brendan tonight. hahaha I will post them tomorrow.
Judd
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Jan 23 2014, 12:38 AM
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Jan 23 2014, 07:13 AM
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I would target me... what a pain in the ass I am. Hahahaha
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Jan 23 2014, 07:52 AM
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Looks like Judd is going to have cake on his face pretty soon....
Clay swears that Yau told him that I am the next target.
Yau swears that he is with me to the end.
I asked Yau again if he said that to Clay... "just to play him". Let's see what happens.
Honestly I don't really trust Yau. He screwed me in the Elyse vote and he will most likely screw me again. But what can you do?
I wouldn't want me around either. Hell, I don't even trust myself at this point..hahaha
I don't know which side to play on.
The problem is ... "When you play both sides... even when you WIN... You Lose.. because you only beat yourself."
Damn. Why didn't I just try to lay low... you know that will never happen..hahahah
Like I always say.. I don't play to win... just to be remembered.
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Jan 23 2014, 08:36 AM
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A last ditch effort to save old Judd. I sent these messages to Gillian today.
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Ahh! This is definitely going to be a good week! How can it not be when we start out last night with a win!
Just something I wanted to talk to you about for down the road, but I found out yesterday that the Rookies, are actual rookies, meaning never have played any orgs at all. I thought maybe they had played other Org games, just not brobst games, but nope, they are true Virgins of the game.
Do you think post merge, it would be easier for you and I to make a run to the end if we surround ourselves with rookies, rather than with seasoned vets?
I am just thinking out loud here, and obviously some of the rookies are good, like Flicka, but others obviously others, like dawson and clay do not know the first thing about the social game and what not.
Again, I was just thinking outloud, and wanted your take on it!
Have a great day my man!
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Judd: We have to retain balance... too many rookies around and they will band together as we go forward. We must always be equal or greater to the rookie number. Rookie Pride will win over loyalty when it comes down to the win. But going the distance with you and Flicka and either Darrah or Gillian is a good thing.
Yau: I agree that we have to have numbers. I too like Flicka, Dawson would be ok if she ever talked. It is like pulling teeth to get her to say anything strategic! I absolutely love Darrah, but if you and I are going to the F2, we also need to think about how good she is in challenges. How do you feel about Chad? Would you take Gill over Chad? Brendan is obviously a wash out, blah. And Michelle is just a little to slick for my liking. I will be online more tomorrow and we can discuss more then, but I am assuming it would still be Clay if we lose!
Hi, Gillian.
I just forwarded you 2 PMs that Yau-Man sent me earlier this week. I just want you to know that maybe (like me) you should be weary of trusting him too much.
He has always said that he was my "main man" my F2 ally. He probably has told you the same thing. He just offered Flicka a final 2 deal last night. I told her to take it.
Obviously he is lying to me. I hope he doesn't lie to you as well.
In the second pm, I am the red box at the top telling him not to have more rookies around than vets... and telling him that I wanted to go with either you or Darrah. That is what I wanted then and still want now.
I am not trying to cause chaos... I just want you to be careful of him going forward. I feel betrayed and it sucks, but I don't want you to feel the same way.
Judd.
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Jan 23 2014, 11:35 AM
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Just so you know... and you probably do.
The other night, Brendan offered me an all guy alliance. I told him no. I told him no because I would be "too low" on his totem pole. I didn't mention anything about you or Chad. I just refused him. He tried it with others as well. But I am certain that he did that to try to calm people down instead of meaning it.
I don't mind when people tell stories and play with people outside of the alliance, but I am bummed that Yao may have thrown me under the bus.
That is wrong.
I am supposed to be at work... I should do some.
I always thought that you didn't like Brendan. And I always loved you. I have been brutally honest and hard on Brendan because I knew you wanted him gone. But I do enjoy his company. I know what Clay says is nonsense, but even if he was being told this just to get him to vote a certain way, please understand that I am solid to your cause.
So, now you and Brendan are tight. That is fine, I can live with that. I have bonded with Flicka on the other side and would like her to go as far as she can. She helped me vote out Kimmi. I knew Kimmi and Brendan together would end this game. They are both strong players. As are you, but I always assumed that you and Darrah were in my court.
If you guys don't need me around, have no fear... but understand that YOU are voting off a solid ally if you do. I am always honest to the vote and will always vote with my alliance. I think you are the pivot vote in the whole game and I trust you. And if you tell me that I can trust Brendan, then I will do that as well. I just don't want to be left out when I will be the most honest with you of them all. I believe in you, Gillian.
That's all I want to say... no bullshit, no deals. I just want you to know where my head is at.
Judd
Hey Judd! Thanks for all the messages this morning. Did something happen last night that I should be aware of? When I logged off last night- I had messages from Yau saying that Clay was going insane and that Clay needed to go home. I want you to be assured that the only names I have heard for the vote were Sandy and Clay, And, then yesterday- that Brendan or Me were the targets by the rookies- and that came from Clay's mouth. Is there something else that transpired that I missed? I am not sure why Brendan is going around telling people we are super tight and trying to form a boys club. The boys club does not surprise me one bit. I sensed that he was already planning on using Burton and Jay as his pawns. Here is what I can say about Brendan, and I just want to keep this between us. I really don't need my relationship with him splattered all over page 6. He seems to already be painting it so big. I attempted to put the past behind me- the vote where I was sent home twice and any involvement he may have had in that. The week of the Keith vote- there were some things from Brendan that were alarming, but it was hard to know whether those things came from Brendan or Keith. So, I get shuffled with Brendan. I had to make the best of things. I was tightest with Darrah over there. After Kimmi went out, I could sense Brendan's fear that his ally was gone. I tried to take advantage of that knowing that could be of benefit if he felt lonely. Then he wanted to take out Darrah. To get revenge for the Kimmi vote. A way to cut at you and Yau for voting Kimmi. And to remove a challenge threat. The rookies jumped all over this. Brendan thinks I was in total agreement. It was the safest play I could make with him and protect myself from the rookie point of view for the merge and with brendan down the road. I really didn't want to become the target a 3rd time. So... here we are. I am obviously faced with the dilemma of losing Darrah who I became pretty close to. Chad was fairly absent in the shuffle. When Brendan started proposing to Chad a Darrah vote- then he sparked up and he and I started chatting more. I think he and I wanted to enter the merge with the idea that we would have you and Yau on our side. Chad likes brendan and has gotten along well with him. But he knows Brendan likes to be in control and that makes him nervous. Brendan views Chad as a pawn vote on his side. I just assumed all was well with you and Yau. Now, I am really confused. Above you mentioned "If you guys don't need me around, have no fear... but understand that YOU are voting off a solid ally if you do. I am always honest to the vote and will always vote with my alliance." Which solid ally am I voting off? You? I hope NOT!!! I have loved you as well. We have had a great relationship and our teamwork and communication the week Keith voted out was amazing. I have not been proposed such a vote - NOR would I agree to it. This is why maybe I am thinking that something has transpired and I am out of the loop. As far as Yau-man. He does seem to have several deals. I guess I was just banking on the fact that he wanted our 4 of me, you, Chad and him over all the others. But perhaps I should rethink that. Again- I hope we can keep alot of this between us. I don't really want it getting back to brendan. I would like him to be content in how he views my relationshp with him, and we call the shots on how we handle him now and as the weeks pass. Puts us in control. Ok- I will check in again later. Just wanted to get htat out there. last I heard it was maybe a Clay vote- but I have not heard anytihng from today. pretty much just heard from you. Gill
I like Yau-man and I truly want to trust him. Believe me, I didn't want to send you anything about him. It hurt me to do so, and It is only between the two of us. I just don't want you hurt by a "boys club" if that happens. Clay sent a message to me late last night, telling me that Yau wanted him to join with the boys and vote out Sandy and then vote out me afterwards. At first I laughed it off. Then Clay swore that he got it directly from Yau-man. And Yau-man told me that he swears that he would never do that to me.. "I am his #1"... I don't even believe those statements from people. But I told Flicka about it, and she is in with you and me... she is like a mini-Darrah... but she told me that Yau offered her a final 2 deal just last night. She said yes to appease him. That just sparked a thought off in my head thinking... If he did make it seem like we were voting off Sandy and they were going to get me instead then he would need to solidify Flicka. So, I decided.... just in case I was a blindside that I would warn you about some of the things he was saying. I will play along and hopefully be wrong about him, but he is making me uneasy. He may just play that way under stress. I have always trusted him, but I was shocked when he suggested going with Chad over you in that message. And then him trying to solidify Flicka... and his association with Brendan. I don't know. I didn't care about the consequences... I wanted to warn you just in case. I haven't told anyone about the PMs that I sent to you about Yau-man. We can keep that to ourselves and just remember it in the back of your head if I am gone. I am always on your side. Judd
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