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Topic Started: Oct 1 2013, 03:36 PM (487 Views)
GuyInIndiana
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http://bf-field-journal.blogspot.com/2013/10/breaking-news-dna-study-news-conference.html

https://www.facebook.com/wfaachannel8#!/wfaachannel8

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That's the one screenshot the news crew took and posted. SUPPOSEDLY there was HD video released, but I've not heard or seen anything of it out there anywhere.
Edited by GuyInIndiana, Oct 1 2013, 03:38 PM.
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Follow-up news article. This HAS video in it.

http://www.wfaa.com/news/entertainment/pets/Bigfoot-is-real-research-teams-claim-226033481.html?c=n&fb=y&can=n
Edited by GuyInIndiana, Oct 1 2013, 06:36 PM.
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Interview with The Melba™.

http://youtu.be/IHy_g0P2LEM
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Well then...
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It’s Chewwie!!!

I loved the end bit with Melba, we still need a body! Ain’t that the point of the whole damn study, DNA proves 100% they exist? BUT to prove it they still need ahem!!

God they could of took some unfortunate kids and put them through college or helped terminally ill people, with what they wasted ….ah I give in.

I bet my left bollock nothing comes from this.
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So, The Melba™ is saying on Facebook the following:

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Looks like NYU and Todd Disotell are trying to cover up their involvement in testing Matilda's mtDNA samples. Disotell got human results on her mito, ASSUMED he had contaminated it, and threw the samples away--Adrian was furious. Unlike Disotell, we know the difference between contaminating samples and getting legit human mtDNA results from non-human hair.


I guess a "Veteranarian", who is NOT degreed with the same PhD that Disotell is, knows more about his job than he does.

Sounds about right.
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I was researching what exactly Dr. Ketchum's background 'is', and while I've seen a lot of random stuff out there, I did find this interesting blog from someone who is credentialed.

http://bigfootzoologist.blogspot.com/2012/12/is-melba-ketchum-real-doctor.html

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Monday, December 10, 2012

Is Melba Ketchum a "Real" Doctor?

This post is in answer to the claims that I have seen circulating regarding Dr. Melba Ketchum not being a "real" Doctor, and not being qualified to perform a genetic study. So let's take a look at what it takes to become a Veterinarian in the United States, and what "Title" that entitles one, pun intended, to use. Currently in this country to be accepted into Veterinarian School you have to have completed a 4 year degree in a scientific discipline (Bachelor of Science) as well as fulfilling other qualifications of grade point average, character, experience, and potential, just like Medical School. Sometimes a person is admitted without a 4-year science degree if they have other outstanding experience or qualifications, but this is the exception. Vet school takes 4 years, just like Medical School, upon which many Vets then take internships/residencies, just like Medical School, if they want to specialize in a certain area of medicine or kind of practice, but unlike Medical School completion of a “Residency” is not a requirement. Many Vets specialize in certain areas such as Nutrition, or Radiology, or Genetics, just like regular Doctors. This can entail doing specialized work while in Vet school or completing Masters or Ph.D. programs concurrently or after Vet school. At my time attending and working at U.C. Davis, which has a School of Veterinary Medicine, I knew many Vets who chose to go into research or teaching, instead of practicing medicine. This is true of some Medical Doctors as well. In the United States Veterinarians receive a Doctorate of Veterinary Medicine, which makes them “Doctors”. They then have to pass a State Board of Examination in order to practice in the state of their choice, just like Medical Doctors.

Are the requirements in Texas the same or as stringent as other states? Maybe not. Were the Texas requirements the same at the time of Dr. Ketchum’s acceptance and completion of her degree as they are now? (Current Texas A&M Vet School Prerequisites). Perhaps not. Would Dr. Ketchum be able to pass the California State Board of Veterinary Medicine? Possibly not. Are her Texas State Board Qualifications currently up to date? What were her pre and post Veterinary School degrees in, and do they exist? I have looked into these questions and what I have found so far from the Texas A&M Alumni Office are as follows: Dr. Ketchum Graduated with a Bachelor of Science Degree in 1976, and was part of the Graduating Class of 1978 receiving a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine. Those dates would indicate that the requirements for becoming a Vet at that time took only 2 years instead of 4. So yes Dr. Melba Ketchum IS a real Doctor. But her seeming 2 years of post graduate work becoming a Vet is in no way comparable to the time it takes to finish a Ph.D in research, which would be 5 years at the minimum, and it is not uncommon for some to take 12-12 years if their choice of research is more demanding.

And as Doctors, Veterinarians take their own version of the Hippocratic Oath upon receiving their Doctor of Veterinary Medicine Degrees:

"Being admitted to the profession of veterinary medicine,

I solemnly swear to use my scientific knowledge and skills for the benefit of society through the protection of animal health, the relief of animal suffering, the conservation of livestock resources, the promotion of public health, and the advancement of medical knowledge.

I will practice my profession conscientiously, with dignity, and in keeping with the principles of veterinary medical ethics.

I accept as a lifelong obligation the continual improvement of my professional knowledge and competence."

But how did Dr. Ketchum become qualified to work in the area of genetics and genetic testing? She makes the following claims on her company website: "Dr. Ketchum is a past three-term Chairperson of the International Society for Animal Genetics Equine Genetics Standing Committee. She has also been Dog Map Chairperson and a Committee member on the Dog and Cat Parentage Committee. She is a former Treasurer for AFDAA, The Association of DNA Analysts and Administrators." But she does not list any Degrees, Certifications, or indications of further education or training beyond her Veterinarian Degree. That does not mean these do not exist, but it seems odd that someone making the extraordinary claims that she has regarding the Sequencing of Bigfoot DNA, and her year/s long attempt at bringing her findings to an esteemed Peer Reviewed Journal, would not have released her Credentials or her Curriculum Vitae by now. These are commonly circulated amongst members of the Academic Community, and I am sure something of the sort was submitted along with her paper to the Journal/s she has been working with. Her Genetic expertise may well have been gained on the job while working in the labs of others before she founded DNA Diagnostics Inc. in 1985, which is quite a valid form of learning and training, but that information could be relaid by making public her CV. Doing so would go a long way to setting the minds of many to rest who have serious doubts about her credibility, doubts based on her own statements and public association with members of the "fringe" of Bigfoot Research, those claiming on the one hand that Bigfoot are "human" yet on the other hand that Bigfoot are capable of all manner of paranormal and other-worldly abilities and behaviors. And they have yet to bring forth any evidence of the abilities and behaviors they are claiming their Bigfoot are capable of which would withstand any manner of scientific scrutiny or substantiation.

I think another legitimate question might be has Dr. Ketchum violated the "principal of veterinary medical ethics" in that above oath? Well since her lab provided a genetic identification service, and not a medical diagnostic service which could have resulted in the harm and suffering of animals due to the negligence indicated by her Better Business Bureau "F" rating and customer complaints, probably not. But this is a gray area and may be interpreted differently by others, as she is using her title of Doctor in her DNA Diagnostics Bio Page which I am sure her customers used in their decision to do business with her.

So Dr. Ketchum I call for you to please release your academic history and qualifications by making your Curriculum Vitae part of the public record, along with the extraordinary claims of success in sequencing the entire nuclear and mitochondrial genomes of several specimens of Bigfoot that you were so eager to share with us before any data substantiating those claims had been released.

Read more about DNA Diagnostics Customer Complaints at the Bigfoot Lunch Club.

I think another legitimate question might be has Dr. Ketchum violated the "principal of veterinary medical ethics" in that above oath? Well since her lab provided a genetic identification service, and not a medical diagnostic service which could have resulted in the harm and suffering of animals due to the negligence indicated by her Better Business Bureau "F" rating and customer complaints, probably not. But this is a gray area and may be interpreted differently by others, as she is using her title of Doctor in her DNA Diagnostics Bio Page which I am sure her customers used in their decision to do business with her.

So Dr. Ketchum I call for you to please release your academic history and qualifications by making your Curriculum Vitae part of the public record, along with the extraordinary claims of success in sequencing the entire nuclear and mitochondrial genomes of several specimens of Bigfoot that you were so eager to share with us before any data substantiating those claims had been released.

Read more about DNA Diagnostics Customer Complaints at the Bigfoot Lunch Club.


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Keilder called it.......on first blush, it looks like someone got a hold of a really good Chewbaca mask.....
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Oct 1 2013, 03:36 PM
http://bf-field-journal.blogspot.com/2013/10/breaking-news-dna-study-news-conference.html

https://www.facebook.com/wfaachannel8#!/wfaachannel8

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That's the one screenshot the news crew took and posted. SUPPOSEDLY there was HD video released, but I've not heard or seen anything of it out there anywhere.
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Yeah, the forums are just ripping that all to shreads... and from something I read online, some "well known" BF'ers are even saying that the good Dr. Ketchum is a joke and are embarrassed they've had anything to do with her.

Sadly, there ARE people out there defending this press conference and the materials they released as very plausible. No. Seriously.
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There used to be an emoticon with a little guy banging his head against a brick wall.

I could use that right about now.

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Is it my imagination, or is bigfoot now posing for photo shoots? I happened to watch a New Zealand news report about the press conference and they're using 'the Chewbacca' picture in the intro and later on in the broadcast. See it here: US group believes it's found Bigfoot

That's a clearer picture than the one in the other news clips which people are using on forums to compare to Chewbacca. What struck me about it is that the copyright on that subject in this news clip is to David Claerr. David Claerr is a contributing author to Yahoo! Voices (see LINKY) On this link, there is a rendition of an alleged juvenille sasquatch. You can click on the picture and enlarge it.

Doesn't that sort of resemble this alleged bigfoot allegedly seen by Todd Standing? Todd Standing Bigfoot

So who is this David Claerr? From his Yahoo! profile: Artist and Published Author/
Certified Adobe Expert. I just wonder what his connection is, if any, to the Erickson Project.

Next is an alleged photograph of Sasquatch taken by the Heiberts in Temagami, Ontario, Canada seen Here. There's an old bigfoot movie entitled "Sasquatch: The Legend of Bigfoot" based on the Fred Beck story. There is an outline of bigfoot at 33:56 minutes into the film that is the exact silhouette of this more recent photo. The movie is out on youtube if anyone wants to see for his or herself.

I know it goes without saying that the Rick Dyer bigfoot is the spitting image of a certain televised costume, but I'm adding it to my list.

Next comes the 'owl bigfoot' Seen Here and 'Matilda' (Erickson's sleeping bigfoot) and the infamous Hovey photo that isn't Hovey's. All share common features - a broad shoulder (looking about the same size) with long stuff that's allegedly hair.

Then there's the Jacob's Photo that most agree is a bear. Then comes this photo out of Alberta. While not the 'same' on the surface, notice both a back shots of something bending over. Now, the Jacobs Photo is off a trail cam and it wasn't until all the pressure to release surrounding pictures that we finally have confirmation that yes there were bears in other pictures. But in the meantime, Moneymaker had that picture all over the media. So when someone gets this pic in Alberta, I'd guess they made a connection. The difference is, the Alberta shot was a live picture (meaning the viewer took a picture). So obviously he or she had the opportunity to see whatever that was in some other position and could have taken another one or two shots.

I could go on, but I'll stop here. We all know some of these people are hoaxers, but notice how it affects others - the power of suggestion is some strong stuff! Case in point: Linda Godfrey of Beast of Bray Road/Dogman/Werewolf fame has wondered if some of the reports she gets of the dogman are really in fact bigfoot sightings. From there, Erickson/Ketchum have now indicated that they've found dogmen during their research and they think it's a breed of bigfoot!

So, like I said before...

Well then.



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Just another example here of local media outlets picking up the story. The reason I love this one so much, is because of this black gals utter enjoyment in the news story. I bet she's a hoot in real life.

http://player.ooyala.com/iframe.html#ec=9xOWdjZjo-2AlUQmOkkUekv8IbsVcqLL&pbid=55ce3a06495346ddb20768902d1e991c&docUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fbigfootevidence.blogspot.com%2F2013%2F10%2Fthese-reporters-can-laugh-all-they-want.html
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I seen that one Mick and it brought a smile to my face as that’s some contagious laughter and I agree she seems a hoot. You’ve got to have a laugh at times as if you can’t this subject will turn you into one boring pain in the ass.

For JC, I think I touched on this awhile back due to past anecdotal sightings and reports people envisage or see a typical Sasquatch as having certain attributes we can all relate to. Therefore when they hoax (I’m saying hoax, as so far outside of audio I have seen no evidence that anything on the www is real) They create everything around that and I agree some also do go back to historic films. I know that film in question, when something new appears I normally cast my mind back; to have I seen that before or where?

I understand the power of suggestion and I agree. Just the characteristics are so different, how can you attribute one to the other? I thought about a spin off in the gene pool this that etc., and the more I theorize the more absurd it becomes with our current documented evolution timeline

Myself? Personally I don’t really play this game anymore or have an interest outside of here. When I do consider things I always come back to what I believe you are also privy to, as it’s some what tangible and not two dimensional like a photo.

Actually there gone as I lost them when I deleted my Bigfoot folder. (Audio recordings) but I don’t need them I have a good memory and if I do, I’m sure that can be resolved.

That still has me scratching my head like the rest of the guys, as I am honest. I just do not know on that at all (trying to fit that into our way of thinking and current scientific methods! Why this? Why that? Why can’t we? etc.,) the only thing that my logical brain will accept is ‘Time’ as it answers everything…

I read Mickeys post a few days back on that site he listed, ‘Yes’ I knew about that and The story of the ‘Trap’ I was fully aware of but dismissed back then – a good few years, and still as I can’t accept it due to energy.

The amount of power to create such a thing would be tremendous…Then I thought recently after seeing that again about Silicon chips I read many moons ago a research project into tapping electrons from an alternate universe (on going at Silicon Valley if I recall) basically, we have a limit of what you can go down to and can achieve with speed v size on a silicon chip, so the research project was going or theorized they could tap into another reality or universe and pull electrons from that to increase calculations/speed. Yeah I know heavy……

I think that’s why I backed off. The road to Loch Ness so too speak. Okay that’s me being serious…back to playing the fool. :D
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Oct 6 2013, 07:52 AM
Just another example here of local media outlets picking up the story. The reason I love this one so much, is because of this black gals utter enjoyment in the news story. I bet she's a hoot in real life.

http://player.ooyala.com/iframe.html#ec=9xOWdjZjo-2AlUQmOkkUekv8IbsVcqLL&pbid=55ce3a06495346ddb20768902d1e991c&docUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fbigfootevidence.blogspot.com%2F2013%2F10%2Fthese-reporters-can-laugh-all-they-want.html
oh my God, that is sooooooo funny!!!! Got a couple of Facebook pages I gotta share that too. :D
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LOL I didn't even know you could say 'Sweet Baby Jesus' on a television news broadcast.
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Well, "YOU" can't, but just dare and try stopping HER. ;)
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