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| [Pre-Dice]Bones Requests; OF DOOM! | |
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| Bag o Bones | Jun 20 2009, 02:29 AM Post #126 |
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Meteorain (Lv3)
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It would be five posts of each of us doing the tech. Does it need to be changed to five posts total, meaning a possible 3 posts for me doing it with 2 for him? |
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| Kenny | Jun 20 2009, 05:19 AM Post #127 |
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Meteorain (Lv3)
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Mm, 5 posts total sounds better than ten. EDIT: That or we're grown ups and we don't need a measuring cup just to pour juice lol sorry, it was a silly suggestion. Edited by Kenny, Jun 20 2009, 05:20 AM.
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| Takeru | Jun 20 2009, 05:58 AM Post #128 |
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Or just up the requirement slightly to 6 dual-techs. Or lower it to 4. An even number would just make things easier. |
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| Bag o Bones | Jun 20 2009, 10:26 AM Post #129 |
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That was using the base 5 as an example, and will go up with the more duel techs that were known. But, either way, the result is the same. Anyway, made the change and edit. |
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| Seenter | Jun 20 2009, 04:21 PM Post #130 |
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Dynamite
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Darn you Bones, you took the idea before I could finish the details. I had an idea to allow the technique for Sam to fuse, but I never was able to get it finished. Now that Lini and Nex can do it, I guess I'll just add my suggestion here. Problem 1: Stats- from what I read there's a lot of problems with agreeing to the stats. The idea I had with my version of fusion was take the highest stat between the two characters, then add half of the weaker stat to the higher stat. It would still be a stat increase, and be a little more even than having to reduce them. So if Lini had a strength of 100 and Nex had a strength of 50, the resulting stat would be 125. Problem 2: Number of Posts- Having it last a total of 10 posts makes it too powerful, this I'll agree on. If you take my suggestion with the stats, the newly formed character would be several times more powerful than my character when using Ultimate Ki Burst. Primarily because my character will need a total of 500mp just to use the technique for 1 post. I say make the posts equal to the number of techniques divided by 2 rounded up each. So with 5 techniques both you and Bowwy would be able to post 3 times before it ends. Now that I gave my advice, do know I will make a human like version of this technique for Sam. He wouldn't be much of a DBZ style character without it ^_^. |
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| Kenny | Jun 21 2009, 01:36 AM Post #131 |
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Meteorain (Lv3)
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What about a set-in-stone post limit? I'd be happy with, '6 Techs known, 6 posts in total allowed.' Otherwise if it gets to the 10-post limit, that whole 'can't use more than once a thread' tid-bit seems like really nothing. |
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| Bag o Bones | Jun 21 2009, 02:02 PM Post #132 |
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Meteorain (Lv3)
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Technically, the Int stat is a limiter since duel-techs do have to fall into the "You can only have 1 for every 7 Int" rule we have, and if we want single techs too, then we'd have to raise Int higher as well. That's a big limit on my end, since I'm not someone big on magic and MP and all that, which makes me have to concentrate on a stat that I can't use effectively. Still, I was thinking that the thought would be that the more duel-techs they had, the closer they were, and therefore the longer they could last like this. So, having it limited in terms of posts by the number of duel techs is pretty limiting already. Anyway, that's my argument against. But, if you want a post limit of 10, is that 10 from each of us, or 10 total meaning 5 from both? Edited by Bag o Bones, Jun 21 2009, 03:50 PM.
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| Bowwy | Jun 21 2009, 06:17 PM Post #133 |
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MOOGLE AWWWWAAAAYYYY!!!
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I like this alot. It doesn't give us uber stats but still guarantees boosts for everything. |
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| Bag o Bones | Jun 24 2009, 09:32 AM Post #134 |
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Moogle Fusion Description: An ultimate duel tech between Lini and Nex that combines them in body, mind, and spirit. At any point while the two of them are in physical contact with each other, they may choose to invoke this technique. Both Nex and Lini will be enveloped by a bright flash of white light. Once the light subsides, a single powerful Moogle will be seen where the two of them were located. The fused Moogle will take on the aspects of both of their personalities and appearances, with some of these aspects taking on more of a highlight if shared between them. Requirements: At least five duel-techs must be known by both Nex and Lini that involve each other; At least five Abilities must be known by both Nex and Lini; 100 Spirit (Both Nex and Lini); A great friendship. Effect: Adds together Nex and Lini's stats and skills and multiplies them by .75. Stats and Skills can not be made lower then a characters highest stat. (Example, Nex has 150 Magic, Lini has 36, Magic stat would be 150, while if both of them had 60 Speed, the new speed would be 90). All negative status effects are cured, and their limit break meter is combined. HP and MP also increase due to the stat addition as well, but only the addition, not the added multiplication. HP + and MP +, however, do factor in after the addition. All armor, weapons, Materia in weapon/armor slots, abilities, techniques, accessories, and limit breaks are accessible in this form. Their fused forms are able to use both of their weapons. The length of time that this technique and form lasts is equal to the number of duel-techs that Nex and Lini know together for each of them. (For example, with the 5 duel-tech requirement and a 3 person thread, it would be: Bowwy, person x, Bones, person x, Bowwy, person x...etc, until a total of 5 posts have been done in fused form. For sagas and epics, control switches after every leader post) All duel-techs that are known by the fused parties are able to be done singularly. If their fused body is K.O'd, then the fusion splits and leaves Nex and Lini each with 1 HP and 0 MP. If the fusion runs out of time/posts, then Nex and Lini will have the the remaining HP and MP of their fused mode split between them. This technique can only be used once per thread. Cost: 20 MP per post Another MSN conversation has brought about an answer. Here is the edited, edited version. |
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| Kenny | Jun 24 2009, 09:35 AM Post #135 |
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Meteorain (Lv3)
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Sweet. Our deliberations have come up with an answer: high MP cost. Sounds fair to me. 1/2 approval, mate. |
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| Gin | Jun 24 2009, 10:27 AM Post #136 |
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Ikorose, Shinsou
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MWA HA HA HA H AHA HA HAH AHAH A HAHA APPROVED |
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| Bag o Bones | Jun 30 2009, 10:22 PM Post #137 |
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Moogle Ice Rain of Impalement Description: A duel-tech between Nex and Lini. Nex uses his Water Materia to create a large bubble and shoot it into the sky. He then freezes the bubble using his Ice Materia. Once the bubble has been frozen, Lini flies into it and shatters it, causing a massive rain of ice shards to fall onto their target. Requirements: Nex: Water and Ice Materia; 100 Magic. Lini: 100 Speed, 200 Strength. Effect: Creates an icy rain of tiny pointy shards to rain down, cut and impale their target. Due to the large area of effect, the accuracy of the attack is increased. The target will need to be faster then Nex's magical accuracy by 40% to fully dodge the ice rain. From 1% to 39% faster, they take half damage from the attack. Damage is (Nex's Magic x 2.5 + Lini's strength x 1.5)/ Cost: Cost of (Ice x 1.7 + Water x 1.7)/2 MP for Nex. 15 MP from Lini. KUPO KICK! Description: A duel tech between Nex and Lini. Nex uses his Earth Materia to weaken the ground. Lini then stomps the ground hard to create a fissure that is directed towards their target. Requirements: Nex: Earth Materia; 100 Magic, Lini: 150 Strength Effect: Does (Nex's Magic + Lini's strength)/2 in damage. Also causes an earthquake that lowers the speed and agility of anyone on the ground to be reduced by 50% for 5 posts. Cost: Cost of Earth for Nex. No MP cost for Lini. MOOGLES! F*** YEAH! (Name pending) Description: A duel tech between Nex and Lini. Nex uses his Water Materia to launch Lini high into the sky on a waterfall. Lini then rides back down to earth on the waterfall and attacks the target while riding the waves. Requirements: Nex: Water Materia, 125 Magic. Lini: 100 Weapon Skill, 90 Spirit. Effect: Nex's Magic+Lini's strength *1.5. Target of attack cannot use a physical attack on their next post due to the amount of water taken in. (Projectile and Magic attacks are allowed). Cost: Cost of Water x 1.5 for Nex. 10 MP for Lini. Alright, 3 new duel-techs up for review. |
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| Gin | Jun 30 2009, 10:28 PM Post #138 |
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Ikorose, Shinsou
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These actually seem the most fair stat wise to me, 1/2 approval all |
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| Kenny | Jul 1 2009, 08:39 AM Post #139 |
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~ Fully approved.
The bolded are my concerns. Basically, the first is the amount of damage that Moogle Ice Rain of Impalement deals is stronger than that of any '-aga' attack (plus what Lini's strength does on top of that). My worries mostly stem from this equation: (Ice x 1.7 + Water x 1.7)/2 MP Basically, as far as I can tell it's a sum of 6 MP *1.7 = 10 MP. If I'm wrong, this needs to be way clearer. But if not, for 10 MP that much damage [*2.5] is overpowered. I don't know why you didn't just post the cost with no multiplication x_x Now, as for the other move, MOOGLES! F*** YEAH! (Name pending). Basically same problem with the awkward multiplication in cost. As far as I can tell, it should cost 9 MP, and for it's effect that is pretty fair. Just some rewording needs to be done. Edited by Kenny, Jul 1 2009, 08:41 AM.
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| Bag o Bones | Jul 1 2009, 10:20 AM Post #140 |
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Those were mostly numbers picked randomly while planning the moves. Whatever numbers that work better to match the cost or whatever the damage formula needs to be can easily be adjusted. |
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| Kenny | Jul 1 2009, 10:18 PM Post #141 |
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My edits made in cost.
Same. Edited by Kenny, Jul 1 2009, 10:18 PM.
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| Bag o Bones | Jul 1 2009, 10:59 PM Post #142 |
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Moogle Ice Rain of Impalement Description: A duel-tech between Nex and Lini. Nex uses his Water Materia to create a large bubble and shoot it into the sky. He then freezes the bubble using his Ice Materia. Once the bubble has been frozen, Lini flies into it and shatters it, causing a massive rain of ice shards to fall onto their target. Requirements: Nex: Water and Ice Materia; 100 Magic. Lini: 100 Speed, 200 Strength. Effect: Creates an icy rain of tiny pointy shards to rain down, cut and impale their target. Due to the large area of effect, the accuracy of the attack is increased. The target will need to be faster then Nex's magical accuracy by 40% to fully dodge the ice rain. From 1% to 39% faster, they take half damage from the attack. Damage is (Nex's Magic x 2.5 + Lini's strength x 1.5) Cost: Cost of 30 MP for Nex. 10 MP from Lini. MOOGLES! F*** YEAH! (Name pending) Description: A duel tech between Nex and Lini. Nex uses his Water Materia to launch Lini high into the sky on a waterfall. Lini then rides back down to earth on the waterfall and attacks the target while riding the waves. Requirements: Nex: Water Materia, 125 Magic. Lini: 100 Weapon Skill, 90 Spirit. Effect: Nex's Magic+Lini's strength *1.5. Target of attack cannot use a physical attack on their next post due to the amount of water taken in. (Projectile and Magic attacks are allowed). Cost: Cost of 8 MP for Nex. 10 MP for Lini. These look fair to me. So all that matters now is if you like your own edits. And if you have a name for that one tech... <_< |
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| Gin | Jul 1 2009, 11:17 PM Post #143 |
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Re 1/2 approval, by the way I like the name but if you really want another how about "Moogle Water Slide"? |
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| Kenny | Jul 7 2009, 12:25 AM Post #144 |
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I second "Moogle Water Slide." Fully approved. |
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| Bag o Bones | Jul 10 2009, 05:42 PM Post #145 |
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Lini Laser [Limit Break Level 3, Number 1] Description: Lini starts to summon all the power in his body that he can. After a few moments, his body, eyes, and pompom will begin to glow a bright white. Moments after that, it will shift to every other color in the visible spectrum in order before it returns to white. At this point, he gathers the last of the energy needed, and fires it as a laser out of any point on his body at a target. Requirements: Limit break Level 3, Number 1 Access Effect: Lini fires a laser out of any point on his body. The speed and accuracy of the laser is equal to his Spirit Stat. Does Strength x 3 in damage. Can last one or two posts. If it lasts two posts, Lini will take double damage his next post from physical attacks. Cost: None. Munitions Master Description: After a while, you've gotten really good at making things go boom. So good that you don't even notice that you have the materials to do so on you anymore. Its like it's become a part of you. Requirements: ? (need help here) Effect: All grenades, bombs, ammunition, etc no longer has a weight. In addition, the effectiveness of these items are doubled while in your possession. (ex, a grenade would do 50 damage, a flash grenade would blind for 4 turns, and regular ammo's base damage would be raised to 10) Cost: None Alright, new Limit Break and Ability ready for review. So, review away. |
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| KurisuMurei | Jul 10 2009, 05:56 PM Post #146 |
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Doesn't particularly like the Art of Fighting, but definitely wants to be the King of Fighters.
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Lini Laser: Maybe a bit too powerful for a level three as it is now. I'll take it at 2.25x or something along those lines. Munitions Master: Probably takes a considerable amount of Strength and Intelligence to pull that off...maybe 50-75 in each? |
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| Bag o Bones | Jul 11 2009, 01:16 AM Post #147 |
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Yeah, I thought about it while I was out. 3 is kinda high for a level 3, no. 1. How does 2.5 sound? Aside from being able to last two turns at a cost, it's really nothing more then a really flashy attack, so having a little extra oomph to it shouldn't be that much of a stretch. and a 50 in strength and int sounds good to me.
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| Gin | Jul 11 2009, 01:32 AM Post #148 |
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Ikorose, Shinsou
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Lini Laser is approved unless anyone has complaints. Munitions Master scares me a bit though with its 2x effect for bullets. Seeing as how you can request bullets with whatever strength you want a 50 damage bullet would do 100 damage each hit with it. I'm PROBABLY just thinking to hard on this though so if someone else thinks its good it gets my approval. |
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| Bag o Bones | Jul 11 2009, 01:36 AM Post #149 |
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Keep in mind that a 50 damage base bullet would be like, ungodly expensive. I think the lowball number for a 25 base bullet is 900 Gil for a box of 20. So going for 50 would be at least double that, and having any effect to them would cost even more as well. |
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| Kenny | Jul 11 2009, 08:39 AM Post #150 |
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Meteorain (Lv3)
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Sorry to be picky. =/ But the underlined... what is the 'etc'? You can understand I want to know exactly everything that this move buffs. As for Lini Laser, well, that's fine and approved. |
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