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[WCHH] Kishima Kouma killed by Nanaya Kiri
Topic Started: Nov 25 2009, 07:51 PM (1,158 Views)
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What could have happened? -series
What could have happened if something in the stories would have gone differently?
How would it have affected the outcome of the story, or perhaps whole nasuverse?
When Kouma was young Kiri would have still been able to kill him. Thus he wouldn't have been able to eliminate the Nanaya clan. Would Tohno Makihisa still been able to go through the elimination via some other means or not?

If not Shiki would have probably gone through intense training on his skills and become a true demon hunter. However would he have been able to acquire the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception through other means?
Would the Shiki raised by Nanaya clan be more powerful than the one raised in the Tohno residence?

How would it affect the lives of other characters that Shiki was related to?
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Poor GrimGrim hasn't played MBAA yet. Nanaya and Kouma actually become major bro's in canon, because they both want to continue fighting on every reawakened night. This broship never could of happened, making a certain Wurf very sad.
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Shiki would have gotten himself some actual blood-related incest.
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I like the question of which Shiki would be more powerful. He probably wouldn't have gotten the mystic eyes if he continued as a Nanaya, but he would've been faster and more keen and more deadly. Canon Shiki is more like a WTF Canon that can take anything out with a hit, but it's slow and hard to wield. Alternate-Nanaya Shiki is a trained assassin, and could probably take Canon Shiki out without much of a fight as long as he didn't launch into any monologues and let Canon Shiki hit his lines.

So I'd vote for Alternate-Nanaya Shiki. Also, AN Shiki wouldn't have much a relationship with the Tohnos, since they'd be his enemy. It's possible he'd interact with Ciel, but I dunno how personal that would get, and God forbid he should ever run into Arceuid...I picture AN Shiki much more 'lone assassin' than manwhore, but who knows..
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Regarding power levels it would depend on the situation. Alt-Shiki could probably win 100% (disgerading canon-Shiki protagonist factor) of the time if he has the element of suprise. Canon-Shiki wouldn't gain anything from the element of suprise as alt-Shiki would be trained against those. However canon-Shiki could have a chance on winning if both start aware of each others presence. Probably a slim chance, but a chance anyways.
This is if we're talking about the current canon-Shiki and not Satsujinki.

Wouldn't it be possible that alternate-Shiki could get an assignment to eliminate Akiha (Half-Demon)? I mean, it could be a low chance but possible.
Also alt-Shiki wouldn't had met Arimas - bye bye step-imouto.
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But then again, If Shiki would never to be adopted into the Tohnos, what would become of them when SHIKI finally turns into Roa? Would the Tohnos get wiped out? Or maybe since Akiha would have her full life force still, would she be able to take him on? And perhaps win? I've heard somewhere that if Akiha would've been born sooner, they wouldn't need Kouma, and could've killed all the Nanayas by themselves.
Edited by Gae_Bolg, Nov 28 2009, 07:59 AM.
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Nov 28 2009, 07:56 AM
But then again, If Shiki would never to be adopted into the Tohnos, what would become of them when SHIKI finally turns into Roa? Would the Tohnos get wiped out? Or maybe since Akiha would have her full life force still, would she be able to take him on? And perhaps win? I've heard somewhere that if Akiha would've been born sooner, they wouldn't need Kouma, and could've killed all the Nanayas by themselves.
in Makihisa's journal in one of the far moon side stories.

MBAC, Nanaya's intro translated by mirror-moon:
" Eldest son of the ancient Nanaya Family specializing in the assassination of hybrids. The Nanaya Family was destroyed by the Thonos. Does not truly exist; is the "what if" Thono Shiki was raised by the Nanayas. "

so that answers the question about the Shiki raised by the Nanayas and his eyes.

about the the relation with others, there is a big chance Akiha and SHIKI would have probably be dead(SHIKI kills Akiha and Makihisa kills SHIKI), still there is a chance for Akiha to be alive since the only reason SHIKI got close to Akiha was because of Shiki, so maybe SHIKI would have killed someone else and then be killed back. If SHIKI/ROA was dead Arcueid and Ciel would have not come to Japan. Also no Nanaya Shiki would have no connection to Arima familly, Hisui, Kohaku, Aoko, Len, Nero, probably Sion and Tatari. He could have some connections to Satsuki, the same one he had before she got bitten by Roa.

And without Kouma, i don't think Makihisa would have attacked the Nanayas.
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