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dazycrazy41
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Nov 8 2005, 03:40 PM Post #1 |
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on carol duval's show on HGTV, she put aluminum foil on a dry iron and then when it was hot, scribbled all over it with crayons and put it on a paper and made a background of it. it wasn't anything like the beautiful things i've seen here, but looked like something i could do. is this how trouble starts?
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waxingsteve
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Nov 8 2005, 03:46 PM Post #2 |
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It's not unheard of for people to start out using crayons instead, dazy
Waxing really isn't that hard to get the hang of, though some techniques take a little more work
It's entirely up to the individual as to where they go with it - that's the beauty of it
One word of warning, though, don't use your best steam iron - the holes will quickly fill with wax The foil idea is interesting, especially if it's been crumpled
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Mardar
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Nov 8 2005, 04:04 PM Post #3 |
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OMG! I just saw that same show just ten minutes ago!! Steve she was using a small travel iron (no holes), very similar to the encaustic iron and she took the heavy duty aluminum foil. It is really thick foil. She had the iron set on low and melted the crayons just like E/A. She was using a shiny card like you us to make photo print out on your printer. She was just placing it down and lifting it up, but if she had put more wax on the iron, it would have worked as an encaustic iron. I was blown away that the crayons worked so well. I'm sure you would have to use the good crayons so the color would be richer. The cheaper crayons would be to light in color. That was so awesome.
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waxingsteve
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Nov 8 2005, 04:11 PM Post #4 |
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I couldn't bring myself to use crayons - just thinking of it made me feel too guilty I kept thinking of some child not able to enjoy using those crayons
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Nov 8 2005, 04:25 PM Post #5 |
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ive never tried crayons but the cheap ones dont have much wax in and I shouldnt think they melt very well, Ive seen some intresting images made with melted crayons but they tend to be more 3d sculptures, some one on ea site used to do them with a blow torch! catherine x |
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Nov 8 2005, 04:42 PM Post #6 |
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Some crayons can work quite well but if you are tempted to use any, make sure that you have good ventilation. Crayons aren't designed to be used in their liquid state whereas the EA colours are. Crayons can contain lots of different ingredients to bulk them up. Usually, the wax used is paraffin wax instead of beeswax and the colours, almost certainly, won't be anywhere near as permanent as EA colours (which are all artist-quality pigments). The colour in some wax crayons is just dye (candle-makers have to use dye for their colours (ask me why if you like!) and we've all seen how those fade in a light room!) |
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Mardar
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Nov 8 2005, 04:54 PM Post #7 |
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You are right about the different quality of crayons Barry. The Crayola brand would be what I would try. The color is very rich in them and they do not fade like other crayons. I have used Crayola crayons to draw on paper with, then heat it with an iron onto fabric to make designs. It will not wash out or fade. But I wouldn't use other brands as they have too much parrafin in them. |
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dazycrazy41
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Nov 8 2005, 05:20 PM Post #8 |
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you mean to tell me that you don't have a big ol' can of old crayon bits from years gone by? and besides, why should kids get to have all the fun? i know the crayon idea isn't as good as the wax, but i thought it would be a place to start before pouring money into even more craft supplies. wanna guess how much stained glass supplies are? |
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waxingsteve
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Nov 8 2005, 05:28 PM Post #9 |
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Dazy: Only the ones our kids had, and I could never use those
I was a pencil/pen person Certainly, it would be a fair place to have a go, but the wax will behave differently and, as Barry says, there are other things to think about too
I've seen websites selling stained glass gear - and shuddered ![]() Barry: I've a fair idea why dyes and not pigments are used, but it might be good if you explain the difference Steve |
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Nov 8 2005, 05:48 PM Post #10 |
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Mardar, What I remember from when I experimentd with Crayola years ago is that compared to proper EA waxes, the waxes are very runny and the colours not as intense; also some of the colours used to feel horribly gritty when an iron was dragging them across a smooth card! Steve, Pigment is bits of stuff (rock, crystal etc) ground very, very finely, so an Encaustic Art colour is beeswax (usually) with these very fine particles suspended in it. If a candle were to be produced using pigment colour, the particles would get stuck in the wick (because it would perform a filtering action) and eventually the wax would be prevented from flowing freely within the wick, the candle would splutter and go out. A dye is something actually dissolved (so no particles). |
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Nov 8 2005, 05:58 PM Post #11 |
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Barry Wasn't what I was expecting after all I know that some pigments used to be toxic (though in what levels I don't know) and I was assuming that dyes were used to make crayons "child safe" Steve |
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Nov 8 2005, 07:37 PM Post #12 |
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I admit I had wondered if crayons would work with my travel iron, I'm half wanting EA for Christmas and half of me thinks it will be a waste as I'll be useless! But I don't want to be overcome on kiddies crayons!
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Jenny
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Nov 8 2005, 08:08 PM Post #13 |
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Joan, I've tried it, albeit in front of experts. I will have another go when I can nick Steve's stuff and go into my craftroom and play by myself. I'm shy with people who know what they are doing, when I try for the first time. Having said that though, it is very calming and exciting at the same time as the iron glides across the card leaving YOUR marks on it and if you don't like what's there you can iron it out and re-start. |
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waxingsteve
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Nov 8 2005, 09:51 PM Post #14 |
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Jo, it's definitely not a case of "can you" but rather "you can"!
There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be able to wax
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Nov 8 2005, 11:01 PM Post #15 |
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Jo, I would say try it, you will like what you do. It is very relaxing and great for unwinding. I just love trying out stylus tip work, you can get some wonderful effects with the stylus and it's various tips! It's true what Steve says, it's a matter of YOU CAN. Poppy.
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klista
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Nov 8 2005, 11:43 PM Post #16 |
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some one melted all my crayons, now I can't color klista |
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dazycrazy41




Waxing really isn't that hard to get the hang of, though some techniques take a little more work
It's entirely up to the individual as to where they go with it - that's the beauty of it
One word of warning, though, don't use your best steam iron - the holes will quickly fill with wax
The foil idea is interesting, especially if it's been crumpled

twinthing

Barry

3:52 PM Jul 11


