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Question For Fellow Waxers; price for commission
Topic Started: Jun 28 2006, 09:33 PM (242 Views)
lankywaxer
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Got asked to do a commission today ,she wants one and then wants to photocopy it and use it as a leaflet for a church(i think)

So how do I price it ,? it looks like it will be A5 size.
I am stumped as yes she only wants one piece but will be copying it to make lots!!!

I am sure some one will have an idea or two

:D :wave:
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Poppy
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Jinny I would make sure you knew exactly what and where she intends to copy your artwork to? And to where it will eventually be used and end up?
You have to ask yourself, are you selling the piece and retaining the copyright? Or are you selling the piece with the copyright? In which case if she copies it to a larger size and sells it and it ends up famous, you'd lose out as the originator and copyright holder? Likewise if she sells copies from it, as she could do if she made it into a greetings card?
I would think about it first.
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mifmif
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I agree with Poppy. I think you should find out exactly how many times she intends to use the image and then charge her a royalty on top of the original price. Also, you should get her to sign to say that you retain the copyright.

A couple of years ago a musician friend of mine asked me to do some artwork for a CD he was making. He's not signed to a label (yet) but I made sure that I retained both the original work AND had the rights to the image so that if he does become a known musician, I can claim the royalties from each sale of that CD.

I think you should look very hard at what you intend to do with this before you go any further.

Good luck with it.

Maria x
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jo145
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Shows I'm not a business woman and will never make my millions! I would have been so pleased to be asked, I would have done it and handed over without a thought! (As I have done already! :r :r ) I know I'm too trusting.

Good luck Jinny with whatever you decide. :wave:
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twinthing
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how nice to be asked to do this jinn! I would personaly make sure I got the orginal back,or if she wants to keep it I would ask for your copyright to be printed on the leaflet somewhere, they should deff put original art work by.......and then put your copyright bit......as to a price......well, find out how many are being printed. I have no idea how much I would charge, sorry thats not very helpfull is it! :blink:
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mifmif
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I had thought of printing a copyright on the back of each piece of EA card before I use it.

I think Catherine's idea of retaining the original, but charging the woman for the work and the use of the image would be a better idea. That way, if she wanted to use it again she would have to ask your permission. Also, you should make sure that on the publication there is an acknowlegment that it is your artwork.

Maria x
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waxingsteve
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I tend to agree with what's been said, Jinny :thumbup; I would also make sure that the image used carries a small but clear copyright mark somewhere on it :) We all like to think the best, but sadly it's too often disproved :(

On the actual pricing, bear in mind that you should receive adequate compensation for both your time/materials and your creativity, but that churches seldom have large funds and printing costs may well be significant ;) It's there that you can probably show faith in the person's good intentions rather than in assignment of rights :thumbup;

Steve :)
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VirginiaS
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I agree with Steve. I do lots of work for various volunteer organizations (making logos or Tshirt designs and what have you) Usually I do it for free but I have them sign a contract that says they are aware I retain the copyright but they have permission to use the image for whatever purpose I made it for and if they want to use it for anything else, they have to ask my permission to do so. The last Tshirt I did had over 3000 sales, they're working on the 3000's now. so you can potentially, if I had done it for profit made it would quite a nice little sum of money.
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Poppy
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Wow Virginia, that's some design tally? It must be making a large proffit for the organisation you did it for??? Great credit to your design skills.
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VirginiaS
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It was for a walking group we formed. One of the wives, actually my best friend she told her husband she was going to walk the miles to Baghdad on her treadmill and go get him. So we ended up all thinking was a good idea and going on the trails around here. A sporting company donated pedometers. The soldiers then decided they were going to outwalk us over there so we were clever and got all their families involved. Within a couple months we had hundreds of people and their families across the US and we were on the news channels. Well I had made the design for the shirts and we sold those babies left right and center and the money went towards our volunteer group to sponser sporting goods and other things for not only our guys but for the Iraqi kids. We also raised 8 tonnes of school supplies for the Iraqi kids. We were able to fully furnish over 200 schools. :D I'm very proud of that. :D :D :D Makes me grin.
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waxingsteve
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Justly proud, Virginia :thumbup; What a fantastic achievement :huggy:

Steve :)
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waxnwane
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:congrats: :congrats: :congrats: This is a fantastic achievement Jinny, and you have every right to be proud - I'm proud to know you - well done! :huggy: :love: Sylvia
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VirginiaS
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Thanks guys, it was nice when they said they had one shipping container for us and we had to tell them we needed another. :lol:
Jinny, what did you end up doing? I hope you're feeling better!
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