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RoUnD eLeVeN; I feel sick...
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Topic Started: Aug 27 2012, 11:46 PM (438 Views)
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Aug 27 2012, 11:46 PM
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I seriously feel sick to my stomach right now. I thought I was toast, and then Harvey offers Ivy up? Really? Have you not noticed that Ra's and I are better at challenges than her? I would've voted me out if I were him. Not that I was brilliant tonight 
Ivy... god, I knew I'd have to cut her loose if I could down the line. I just didn't think it'd be tonight. Fuck. I kept previewing that post wavering on whether or not to vote for her. Self preservation has never felt so horrible.
Fuck my life. I knew Harley wasn't going to go. And if I pushed Joker, it could've switched back to me. Ra's... is my only hope of having some control in that voting room. He had to stay.
I suck. So much. I'm sorry Ivy
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Aug 28 2012, 10:18 PM
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lol at me getting out of sightseeing/shopping to come reply to messages D:
If Joker is forreal, Harvey goes if he's not immune. Harley's the back up because she can't win shit and can't help us take Harvey down. Our messages at the moment:
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Oh hallelujah we finally managed to work something out, lol. Yay us!!! Here's to more in the future?
I held off voting just in case Two Face tried to do something hinky last minute. I do have the tiebreaker just in case and I was curious to see if he'd have voted differently from what he was telling us.
But no.
I think after this past round, it is in our best interests to work together for the remainder of the game. Two Face has been the one pulling all the big moves in this game, and he can lay claim to all the credit. Now, if the jury is incredibly bitter, that's not a good thing. But do any of them truly seem bitter? You said before that you wanted me out because you thought I was a threat. Harvey is a much bigger threat than I. Not only am I not as good in challenges as Two Face (trust me, I was trying hard), but he has had more control. I know I, personally, would want to face him the least in front of a jury. Surely you must feel the same way? I also believe I have been targeted and in danger the most out of everybody left, and that is a mark against me in the end. It's something to think about over this break we have. Harvey is, at the moment, targeting Harley to my face. Talking about slaughtering the goat. I know you have ties to Harley, despite her not voting me out the other round like you wanted. She simply had more of a tie with me than with Penguin. Perhaps to your face, Harvey is targeting me. I don't know. But I did not play this game to get 2nd to him, and I am assuming you did not either. Now, I know there is a good chance he will be immune. If that is the case, of course you could turn to vote for me instead. Or vice versa. But I do believe that I am more of an asset to you as an ally than the rest. If Harvey leaves, I become I suppose the biggest threat again. A good shield, if you will. On top of that, I think you can clearly see that I am not exactly a saint in these past few challenges. Of course, a F4 of you, Ra’s, Harley and I could make you feel uneasy. Substitute Harvey in there and at least perhaps Ra’s and Harvey would target each other. Why would you want me there instead? Well let’s be honest. In that situation, unless one of us is supremely confident in our skills to excel in whatever the final challenge is… keeping Harley is a risk. Her in the F3 means that the other two are battling it out, and the loser will have no shot whatsoever of making F2. I would not want to be in such a no win situation and relying solely on a single challenge to make it to the end. I am not confident that I would beat you or Ra’s. I strongly feel we all have similar cases and not a pedestal like Harvey does with his clear moves. Your chances of making it to the end and winning are better with me in the game than Harvey. With him in the equation, you’re just setting yourself up to go against a more well rounded competitor than me. I will take you to the end over Ra’s. And if Ra’s believes I am a bigger threat, he will take you as well. I know Ra’s hasn’t pissed many people on the jury off. He didn’t vote out Ivy, and he was Bane’s closest ally in the game. I was never close to Mask, and did not even talk game with him until the day he was voted out. Do I really want to risk going to the end with somebody who has 3 votes locked? I think not. I believe it would be a much closer race between you and I. Let me know what you think. If you deem this wise, we can discuss further a back up. I am, obviously, dead serious about this. Do not hand this game over to the far and away clear winner. I hope we at least put up a fight. We are guaranteed F3, and you F2, if Harvey leaves next round. He is unpredictable; surely you can see that already. I am not. Anyway, I would obviously appreciate if you kept this between us...  As for what happened tonight, I always knew Ivy would have to leave if any of us wanted a shot at winning. I simply did not expect Harvey to be the one to spearhead it.... It was probably smart of you to wait till he voted to cast your own.
Ok this is a lot to take in so I'll cover it chunk by chunk. I'm gonna start by saying sorry for going off on you the other round. I was pissed because I knew that with the challenge which was basic pecking order, there was NO way I was going to win it. LOL at that. And I had heard right before the round how you were leading the strike against me. That actually turned out to not be true and my anger was misplaced. I just needed someone to rant at, and it turned out to be you. I will be honest and I did consider you the biggest threat almost the whole game. You can see it in my confessional afterwards. I thought not only would you win, but you'd be the undoing of my game. It looked like everything I had predicted was coming true and I just completely lost it. I wanted to make sure if I didn't win, you wouldn't either. Again sorry for that. But that's the past and we've got to move on. You make great points. I will tell you now that Harvey can't be beat in the finals. He will crush anyone he faces. Yeah he isn't the most well liked guy by us in the game right now. But the jury WILL reward the best player who took the most risks, won the most challenges, and overall had the strategic game down pat. I used to think you were the biggest threat, just because you were nice to everyone and had a good social game. No offense, but Harvey has made moves and has subtly dictated the entire course of the game to this point. Taking out Ivy when none of us probably would have done it only cements this point. He needs to go. If he's immune again - what do you want to do? Eliminate the goat? That seems best for us since it keeps us and Ra's safe, and if anyone can take down Two Face it's us as a group. Plus it's kind of getting ridiculous with Harley lasting so long. She doesn't deserve to beat us. For real. I feel as if I can work with you and Ra's. In fact I am going to go to hell for saying this but I wouldn't mind of all people here besides Harley obviously, facing off in the finals with you. I know I had said you were the biggest threat, but things change. Ra's already has jury votes on lockdown as you say. Me and you I think have an even shot against one another. You'd probably have the edge since I've been clueless and on the outs for so long, but I've played a very complex game and have skated in and out of danger for a while now. Our best chances are against each other. Do you want to do this? Once I give my absolute word on something, I keep it. I am willing to shake if you are. If we can do this properly, it's almost in the bag.
First off, I believe I failed to mention I may or may not be the reason we have two days off this week. I'm on a short trip so I can only really reply to messages when I'm in my hotel room. Like right now. Any other time I'm probably sneaking in for a few minutes on my phone so I'm not ignoring any of you, I'm just busy  My family has a strict "it's rude to be on your phone when you're supposed to be spending time with us" policy :rolleyes: I will probably be able to send off another round of messages early tomorrow afternoon, but don't hold me to that. I'll definitely have time to check in though if you send a response. Kind of glad PMs will be shut off after 8 tomorrow... saves me trying to check in <3 Ok, the important stuff now. As I said before, I have already put the incident a couple rounds ago behind us. You've apologized, I've apologized (oh shit, maybe I haven't? If not, I am sorry) and it's all good as far as I'm concerned. I understand your reaction to the situation and although I think Harvey would have thrown you the AV position regardless, it was a good move on your part to try and ensure it. Don't worry, I am not the type to close a door because of one little thing, and it appears you aren't either.  Honestly, if our positions were reversed, I probably would've wanted you out early too for being a threat. The survey forced me to try in challenges, because I never felt safe after those results. I hope we can evolve from that line of thought though to making sure one of us does win this game.  If we had just aligned more tightly from earlier on, I think things between us could've been very different. But this makes our story arcs more exciting, right? It'll all work out for the best... I am glad we are in agreement that Harvey is impossible to beat, and he must be eliminated as soon as the opportunity presents itself - be it this round or next. I will be sure to perform a sacrifice ceremony of some sort on a few Justice Leaguers to ensure one of us fucking beats him in a challenge. I was hoping that it'd only be one person immune, but Bruce talked about preplaying "challenges." Maybe he's misleading us? We'll see. But we should probably hang our heads in shame if Harley beat all of us for venom. Harvey not only has the strategic and challenge game dominance, he has always had a social game to back it up too. Biggest triple threat? Definitely. I take no offense to what you said, because it's simply the truth. Harvey deserves to win this in a landslide if he slips to the end. I am talking to Ra's about it as well, and given he hates Harvey after the Penguin vote... it's a lock. Ra's/Harley also have not had the best relationship so the 3 of us are solid. I'm down for voting Harley out if Harvey is immune, definitely. She would be of little help to us in trying to beat Harvey in a comp. I know we both have deals with her, but it's the smartest move by far. One or both of us need to talk to her though about getting Two Face out. Off chance she's in the voting room with one of us + Harvey not immune... Very off chance. I don't think it should be hard, given Harvey wants her as the primary target in messages with me. We're all going to hell anyway, so it's okay for you to say you'd want to face me in the end (barring Harley).  Our best chance is definitely against each other, and I'm all for making it happen. I want to do this and I give you my word. Nobody has given me their word or vice versa all game  Let's do this. Us to win AV and venom please! As far as what I'm telling Harvey at the moment. I told him I'd be fine with Harley going if he could get you to stop targeting me  It's been nearly a day since I responded to him though so hopefully his line of thinking hasn't changed. Not that it matter too much. Enjoy the days off!
I have let Ra's know what I'm up to, and he told me that he has made a F2 deal with Joker as well. I think Joker is legit about voting Harvey out. I'm iffy on whether or not he'd do Harley as a back up. But we both know (or at least I do for sure) that Harvey at this point is unbeatable in front of the jury. So he should keep me to try and kick Harvey out. I would be more useful than Harley.
In my last response to Harley, I asked her what Two Face was up to with her, and told her that he was pushing for her to go. We'll see. Having her support is just a precaution. Two of Joker, me, and Ra's should suffice.
Of course, this round I think I have a shot of making it through. And that probably means I won't given my record for predictions so far
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Aug 29 2012, 10:10 PM
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So who would you take to the end at this point? Who are the biggest threats jury vote-wise? Who can you beat?
How do you think Ivy reacted to the 3-0 vote?
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Aug 30 2012, 12:03 AM
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Questions? D: No wait, more shocking = Batman in my confessional. I think I'm supposed to tell you to GTFO and DIAF.
As far as your questions..
I have a F2 deal with Ra's, Joker and kind of unspoken with Harley too I guess. I once did tell her I'd try my best to ensure "our" survival after she voted out Penguin instead of me. Meaning me, myself, and I but that could easily be misinterpreted otherwise 
As far as who I'd take? I'd consider taking any of them other than Harvey. No way, no how will I suicide with taking the most overt strategic/challenge threat to the end. I guess he might lose if the jury is incredibly bitter, but I'd rather not take that risk.
OF course the best case scenario is taking Harley, but I do not want to rely on the F3 challenge (should I make it there) to get to F2. So... I guess no goat for me this game I miss my goat army ;_; As far as I'm concerned, she goes either this round or next. Could anybody resist the temptation to take her to the end if she was in the F3? I know I wouldn't be able to. No offense to Harley, since I love her and her social game with me is enough to get me to consider her case should she make F2. But there's obviously no denying that she's done the least in terms of visible moves.
I would probably take Joker to the F2 over Ra's. I should burn for saying that, cause I will kick myself if I lose.... but Ra's probably has 2-3 jury votes locked up (Ivy, Bane, possibly Mask) against me. Joker vs me I think would give me a much better chance. I am torn though because I want Ra's or I to win this game. I've made peace with Joker and I meant it in PMs when I said I'm over the shit a few rounds ago.... but my rapport with Ra's has just been much, much stronger. I would be very pleased to see him as the winner of this game. Honestly, I don't think I know for sure yet which of them I'd take if we were the F3. Brain says Joker, heart says Ra's.
So Harley > Joker > Ra's >>>> Harvey as far as who I'd take, for now.
Reverse the direction for how I think of them in terms of being a jury threat 
As far as who I could beat... I don't think I played a poor game tbh, but the problem is that I think most of the others have great selling points too. I think I can beat Harley, and given a great FTC Joker/Ra's. I may be overestimating myself though when it comes to me vs Ra's. I kind of love the way he has played, and I respect his style quite a bit. I would probably highly consider voting for him over Harvey if they were the F2 But I'm nearly always loyal when it comes to my jury vote so that's partially why. I don't think anybody could deny Harvey's impact in this game.
LOL Ivy's reaction. Shit. I hate knowing it's her, cause it makes me nervous as fuck. I'm going to go in thinking that she's bitter over it and pissed. It's just the easiest way to deal with shit in games - be pessimistic. I know I probably would've been pissed if the ally I saved the last round turned around and just voted me out. Not even a pity vote. She doesn't even know yet that I voted first Oh god.
I hope if I face the jury though that I can explain myself. Honestly though, she must've known as soon as the challenges were over that the only chance I would survive, was at the expense of her or Ra's. Hopefully with plenty of time, she'll be willing to hear me out. We'll see.
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Aug 30 2012, 11:19 PM
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I would vote myself off after those challenge fails.
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Aug 30 2012, 11:30 PM
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Too bad photobucket backstabbed your alliance.
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Aug 30 2012, 11:31 PM
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I'm more kicking myself over the dropdown than that, after seeing the results But lol now I know exactly who Two Face is.
I hope they vote Harley, but I wouldn't be shocked if it's me.
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Aug 30 2012, 11:32 PM
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Who is(are?) Two-Face and why would the results indicate who he(they?) is(are?)?
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Aug 31 2012, 12:07 AM
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alol at that question structure <3
I think it's DGT. Kitty would never have the patience to send PMs of such a length, and it's obviously not Messie There aren't that many people who can finish a dropdown that fast. It wasn't long, but the numerous 2/3/4 letter words made it tougher. idk it all fits in my head.
Not that it matters :shrug
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Aug 31 2012, 12:09 AM
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^^ Also I guess it could be t18, but it's just not the vibe I'm getting. T18 and DGT are very interchangeable though, if KVAS is anything to go by
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Aug 31 2012, 12:10 AM
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I thought it was T18/IANCD that were?
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Aug 31 2012, 12:12 AM
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Wow, so by the transitive property, DGT is basically the same as IANCD? Wow. You went there, Prometheus.
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Aug 31 2012, 12:31 AM
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- Batman,Aug 30 2012
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I thought it was T18/IANCD that were?
Oh dear, can of worms. Can of worms....
I have never ID'ed T18 as IANCD or vice versa, ywsm. So that doesn't apply to me
I still don't know how Zidane was remotely like IANCD. I was like... lol hi T18 <3 after a bit
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Aug 31 2012, 12:47 AM
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- Prometheus,Aug 31 2012
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I still don't know how Zidane was remotely like IANCD. I was like... lol hi T18 <3 after a bit
I am starting to wonder whether or not you were actually in that game.
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Aug 31 2012, 12:50 AM
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You guys do know I've never personally talked to IANCD outside of games, right? :lol: He's always hella shticked up when I play with him - Matt in RI, that chick in Disco Whores... I don't even remember what else. But he's actually never been whiny in games with me
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