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Now think about what happens, if you encrypt with a simple substitution, then again with Vigenere - the result is the same as if you'd encrypted with Vigenere alone. The keyword for this equivalent Vigenere is different than what you used in the original, but that doesn't matter to the cryptanalyst, who doesn't know the keyword anyway.


I don't think this is right, since a substitution is not a shift.

You WILL get different results if the ciphertext is longer than than key, which is the case with Vigenère.


So I think we should look for a substitution and a Vigenère. The order doensn't matter.

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Dont know if this helps anyone! Perhaps I should have placed this in the challenge section!


You ask, we split :)



edit2: this cipher has got a name, if it is what I think it is. It is a vigenere with mixed alphabeths. I made a challenge like this for the forum a while ago.
RRRREJMEEEEEPVKLWENFNVJKEEEEEAOLKAFKLXCFZAASDJXZTTTTTTTLSIOWJXMOKLAFJNNKFNXN
RAGRBAQEMHIGDJVDSEOXVIYCELFHWLELJFIENXLRATALSJFSLCYTKLASJDKMHGOVOKAJDNMNUITN
RRRRLJVEEEEECLYVYHNVPFTAEEEEEMWLMEIRNGLARWJAKJDFLWNTIERJMIPQWOTZEOCXKNUBNXCN
RJIRPOWEANFUSNCZVDVZNMSFEKLOEPZLDKDJWSAAAAAAAOERHJCTNCKFRIMVKSOFOMKMANREWNBN
RZUDRGXEEEEENFQIDVLQNCKNEEEEEDGLLLLLLAWIOSNCDARLODMTOEJXMILDFJROTKJSDNLVCZNN
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